For all the posters who say asking price means nothing..there seems to be a lot of people on cards on b/s/t when there is no price listed always saying 'whats the asking price'........if asking price isn't important..why do you ask..why not just make an offer like the seller wants.....buyers usually want an asking price.....sometimes an asking price will make a buyer not interested at all.......anyway theres more than Zero information learned by knowing the asking price.....

Now your moving the goalposts. Yes, asking price is important...when a card is still available for sale. It's useless otherwise, and potentially misleading as I've already explained. Clearly there will never be a consensus on this so why keep it going?

Exactly, let people handle their own BST threads the way they want. If you want to put your sold prices in 72 pt Helvetica Extra Bold Extended and put them in the title of YOUR thread, have at it.

But if I want to take the price down, I will and there is nothing anyone can say or do to change that. Just the way it is. My only ask would be not to hi-jack someone else's BST as I've seen a few people do.

I have said you can do what you want...never said you have to do anything regarding not putting the asking price after a card has sold...its your choice...why do you imply that im telling you what to do? My posts consistently say you can do what you want..

there have been other posters here that agree with me and may start listing their asking prices...... someone said asking prices dont matter...so i was making the point that they appear to matter more than zero because people keep asking for the a sellers asking price before making an offer as just one example that they might means more than zero...


"Now your moving the goalposts. Yes, asking price is important...when a card is still available for sale. It's useless otherwise, and potentially misleading as I've already explained. Clearly there will never be a consensus on this so why keep it going?"


I am not moving the goalposts..it was directly on point......and we already handled that an asking price of a card thats sold isnt misleading at all...people know the difference between asking price and sale price...plus its misleading when seller says that a card consistently sells for $600 when there are 2 prior sales where the asking price was $300 a month earlier , but no asking price is now listed.......basially you cant say having an asking price is misleading without addressing that the fact deleting information can also result to misleading info..
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Yes, yes I can. You seem to be implying that the only way for someone to estimate market value is by finding previous BST threads where the exact same card has been listed for sale (without acknowledging that information is useless and furthermore misleading if the cards sells for $300 but shows up in thread as $600 SOLD), which is so completely asinine that it's unworthy of discussion...yet at the same time seems to be your best argument. Let it go man.

No I am not implying its the best method...I am implying its just one possible way to ascertain some information on the card, or at least knowing more than having 'sold' in the forum

I don't think anyone thinks I ever implied that b/s/t asking prices is the best method to estimate market value at the time of the sale.......I do think seeing 'sold' is useless though.....

Do you at least acknowledge the information regarding asking price could be misleading as pointed out in my example? It's a yes or no question, no need to qualify your answer with anything more than yes or no.

Its not misleading..its an Asking price....you can look at other sources , are Buy it now prices misleading on ebay? or past sales that say 'best offer accepted' and we see the asking price but dont know what it sold for?'

So ebay has a million times more traffic on their 'best offer accepted' when look at past sales....you do see the asking price.......basically i am saying its already a very very very common practice to leave up the asking price....like ebay.....things tend to be more misleading when its not a very very common practice.

here is an example

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-W...item3cffeaf5a9


is anyone mislead about this mays having a list price for $3824...and best offer accepted...how the heck is it misleading? If someone tried to sell me the same card for $6000.00, i would find it useful to know that the asking price on the same card was $3824...maybe it sold for that..maybe it sold for $1000 less...but the sold listing including the asking price (but not the sale price) isnt misleading..

if the past sale just said 'sold' and didnt have ANY price..i dont see how thats better.....if i paid $6000 for that card convinced on what the seller told me and then I listed it at auction and got $3500.00 i would of wanted to see that asking price....yeah you have to do your homework on buying a card that is expensive...but again seeing 'sold' allows for a future seller to be misleading. I dont think sellers are misleading but just showing you that worrying about the aksing price being misleading isnt anything to be worried about versus what else it out ther

It was a yes or no question as I stated. Yes or no? It will let everyone know if you are reasonable or if you are just going to blindly defend your position. I'm done debating either way, but I'd appreciate your answer sir. As far as above, I agree you would have more information than if no asking price is shown, albeit useless information.

No.

But if you know the trick...
 

You can see what any Buy it Now sells for...

Here is your example...So you might even be screwing yourself worse because if you can't see the actual sale prices on eBay, that is way worse than just seeing SOLD on the BST.

yeah i dont know the trick.....but i didnt assume it sold for the asking price...what is the trick? im sure many will want to know that

and 3100 is a lot for psa 6 non centered...

If I remember correct there has been many threads on the trick to seeing it Buy it Now's on eBay.

I do the item.ebay.ca (then all the info that is already there). It has worked every time I want to see an item.

thanks...for the many that don't know the trick though which may be in the millions..they just see the 'accept best offer'..

ill do your method as its better to know sale price of course.....(how dare we put sale price here!)