:confused::confused::confused:

I never saw the back so I cant speak for the qualifier without totally seeing the card.

Well you asked for a reason and that is the only reason I could come up with. I originally only thought MC because of how quickly you jumped on the first time miscut was brought up, yet never asked any one else to explain their qualifiers :D

I assume they are saying it is MC because that is the designation that has worked for every other previous "No Name" they got, it just doesn't apply this time.

yes Andy...after I responded to your guess I thought I was giving it away!!!!

Has nothing to do with the back...which there is a scan of in an older t206 w/no name thread.

He posted this in the original thread http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1407719632

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=191524

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
 

this is a toughie....

I notices on eBAY....
 

AT FIRST.....Chris asked me, I told him not to bid....

problem- nnof are not recognized anymore:confused:

Problem.....
 

true "no names" have become not "politically" correct......anymore....why???:confused:

NO ONE HAS THE NUTS TO GRADE THEM!!

there....I said it!

why???
 

they are too hard to discern apparently......too many forgers/ erasures...

Pete.....the problem with your name is the "brown" layer associated with the caption....there is no "jump"

off the bottom....

these , I wish, were better ways to determine a true "no name"


this "could've" been a miscut with a "low" struck" caption, but there is no "brown" layer "jump"....but that doesn't explain it entirely....

I own both printer's scrap "true" no names" and a factory cut "caption" jump...

very confusing....:confused:

For example....
 

this example is only 1 of 2 known to exist!!!!!:eek:

the other is Del Howard(which I believe Keith owns, but not sure due to losing it on Ebay many years ago).......

full caption "jump"

extremely rare.....extremely valuable.....I am dying to see another example???:confused:anyone??? I have been searching for 15 years plus!:eek:

No way!
 

You are correct, that is graded a 1 MC but it is definitely not a 1 and it is also not MC.

Maybe we can start a grading company that can slab the slab and put the REAL grade on the outside slab......hmmmmm :eek:

I'd say its a (MG).

MG=Misgraded.

Peace, mike

A slight name jump
 

Best I can do!

Mike....
 

your not too far off;)

Steve....
 

great great example.....there is a warhop out there like yours....notice the brown"jump";)

the Del....
 

:D

the only
 

caption right shift ever known to survive!!:confused::D:)

I LOVE THIS CARD...prob one of my favorites:D......

how about some
 

"true no names scraps":D

Here you go Johnny...
 

Turner
 

Almost buddy! the caption lies on the "border" ......I knew who owned that....if it shifted fully inside the border, you have to add another zero to the hammer at least:D;)......only 2 known examples of "full jump"....

the randall and howard....

I'm still searching tho after 15 + years!:eek:

how about these twins???
 

:confused::D true "no names" my favorite twins!:)

Quads
 

Looks like Quadruplets to me! :D

Peace, Mike

jonny you thread hijacker/thief!:D

How are they "true" "no names"? The names are at the top. I think the only "true no name" in this thread thus far is the one that started the thread (if authentic as all that have seen it in person claim it to be)

Pete.....
 

sorry my friend!! my Damn ADD:D:o

getting back to your card.....

sgc used to slab them as "NNOF"....then got very "skittish" due to the alterations....pat has one on his website, the only one I have seen truly "slabbed" by sgc , and not some garbage other grader....

psa- faggetaboutit!:D.......they are still learning about "blank" backs and "errors"....they are just starting to slab the cards right....with the proper factory, ect....

sgc...they were ahead of their time, and took risks to call the cards what they were....but the true no names are very hard to slab as such....this brown layer shift tends me to believe a name shift coincides with a shift...

Erick.....chris.....tim.....jim.....are very helpful with their input always in these areas.....steve.....

:)

Andy.....
 

the Kruger twins are almost on a totally different level.....they were "set " up or "concept " cards.......some rare ass scrap that is just not even understood yet....

I just had to throw those evil twinz in:D;)

You realize since we are supposed to deduct 2 grades for a MK your PSA 1 MK translates to a -1

So you can send me the card since it is not officially not even gradable :D

I think I have another true no-name.

It's in an early GAI holder, but if Pete says PSA will grade them, I'll cross it over.


Attachment 176282

So MC means Missing Characters? :D

Nice Daryl...I wish!!!!

How is the card miscut? It's almost dead on centered

Charlie
 

its called a cop out on the part of PSA

Sean
 

almost willing to bet a lot of money PSA will not slab it nor will SGC