E125
 

Just a few known of Mathewson

That is so very cool.

picked up the black legs a few days ago & the Huntley & palmers just now - don't have either in hand, not sure how rare either of them are but both are my oldest (same year I think) and I think rarest.


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Hard to find any of these, I got one!

And now for something completely different
 

I showed this one off on a different thread a few weeks ago, but, for what it's worth, I have a M113 that doesn't appear on ANY checklist and for which I've never seen a second copy. It pictures Vic Saier; I picked it up at the Parsippany, NJ National back in 1983. For the record, it's not for sale; the last time I posted this one, I got some interest, but no - I'm still trying to complete the M113/M114 set.

Yes folks, I'm insane.

One of my favorite cards

Ruth 1915
 

My postcard contribution....one of less than 10 I believe...

Definitely one my favorite postcards. I have images of 10 different (including my own) and you would have to assume that there quite a few more out there.

Would guess closer to 30-50 of the Ruth team rookies out there. My most valuable postcard and least rare. :confused:

That can be said about many cards....what would lead u to believe 30-50 exist?

Like Kevin said, I have seen at least 10 different ones over the years and seriously doubt that represents a majority of all of them in existence. There are many tucked away in private collections as well as others still needing to be discovered by hobby people.

Great postcard none the less. Easily one of my favs.

Pop reports say only two of theseAttachment 179717

1915 E106 Wagner
 

14 graded by PSA, 31 by SGC between this and the throwing pose.

T5 Wagner Batting
 

One of only two that I've seen....

Gotta go with the Vassar Sweaters - only 5 known and each player is unique:

Attachment 179760

Pete - great Pinkerton. That batting pose sure is much more difficult than the fielding variety.

Great Lajoie!

T5 Wags
 

Thanks Kevin! I really love the Pinkertons.

One of my favorites. Wish my moustache grew like that, although the hair on my head looks a lot like Deacon's.

Only 6 graded between PSA and SGC. And a "2" is the highest grade to date. Most likely a better one is out there hidden in a collection somewhere but T213-1's are brutal to find in decent shape.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps1c3adc7c.jpghttp://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...ps2f5fc7d7.jpg

Coincidently, Ted just posted one in the T206 rarer than Doyle thread; it's also an SGC 2.

Jay:

Nice picture of Deacon.

If it makes you feel any better, you have better thumbs than he did. :D

Jerry:

Nice Wright!

Kevin

I might as well repeat my comment from that thread here as well -- great card Dean, one of my top 5 favorites.

Had to add another great mustache as my rarest. He didn't play much for the white stockings in 1876 but he did happen to be there on picture day. The composite is not mine but I wish it was.

Wow, some really great 19th century additions since the thread was bumped! Love the Lajoie card too. Lots of drool!

my precious...

I've have been researching the Somer's Photo Session from this Post Card sitting. The Premium that I picked up from another board member seems to be from this same Photo Session & fir now, iS the Only one!

My Intentions are to eventually start a Thread about Anyone Who Can Help with the Knowledge of the Premium's Background!?

Although Not a Card, I figured I would Introduce it here to BegiN the NET54 Think Session! I have been scouring the internet & Asking some of the Knowledgeable Auction House Icon's... However, there seems to be No Information as to where it came from, Who or Why it was produced, etc...

I have had the Ink, Paper & Process Authenticated to be of period. Also, the News Paper that is attached to the back of the Premium is from the 1915's.

Any Information & Your thoughts would be of Well Received!

Great card, but I can't see the grade. :confused:
I'm going to guess that it's a PSA 3.

Denny - I do not have any info on your premium, but that is at least the fourth different image that I have seen from this sitting. Here are the other two.

Ted's looks nice for a 2. I do wonder how many raw copies are out there hidden in old time collections.

Thanks Bryan. :)

Thanks! There's only 2 on the combined pop charts, a PSA3 and PSA2. This is the PSA2.

It took me years to finally grab a single a drum and I couldn't be happier with the one I got.

A little beat up but only 4 of them Attachment 179854

A 1-of-1 Threeway:
 

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Here are two of my favorites. A Warren CdV of Ross Barnes and an 1866 CdV of the Lowells team. The Lowells displays the sharpest image I have ever seen on a CdV. My scan doesn't do it justice.

Brad- Where is that 1876 Chicago composite taken from?

Nice Gary

Another rare Coupon...
 

Along with the Perdue I posted earlier in this thread, this Hickman can join Hub as the only example that has been encapsulated by SGC or PSA. (1 of 1)

I am still looking for a 2nd known example of either Hickman or Perdue... ;)

"Thank You KeviN!"

I BelieVe ThiS the MiSSiN one from the one's(that would make 4 Picture's from the one Session so Far!) Shown...(See Attached Photo & Please Note the Number 34155 down the Left Side of the Photo)

I found it on Here:
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/bos/fen....jsp?year=1915

I'll be Continuing my Search fir where they Originated from...
Early Boston Newspapers and Proper gander to start!

I'll Check back iN & Maybe even start a thread about Them...
Will See were my search leads me 1st... Aye!?

I don't have too many crazy rare cards, but these would probably be my toughest to replace. 1924 Diaz Cigarettes Burleigh Grimes & 1910 Orange Borders Bill Bergen.

Attachment 179961

Nice Grimes card, never seen that one before.

Beauties, Gary!

I'd love to have a Ross Barnes! He's a very underappreciated player from the very early years of the game.

Kevin- Ross Barnes was the the first "superstar" of professional baseball. From 1871-1876, he dominated the game and his omission from the HOF is a travesty.

He suffers from the Dave Orr problem--a great career cut short. Not sure how the rule applies to early players, but he does not have the requisite number of playing years required for the HOF. BTW, the first superstar would be Jim Creighton.

Yeah, Barnes probably SHOULD be in the Hall. Pretty much led the National Association in BA for it's entire 5-year run. I believe the HOF still lumps the early pioneers (guys that did not have 10 years in the majors, e.g. Candy Cummings & George Wright) with the executives. The pre-integration vet's committee, obviously.

Speaking of the Wrights, here's another rarity. :)

Fair or foul?
 

Beyond the brevity of Barnes' career (6 extraordinary seasons over a 9-year span), his Hall of Fame chances have been diminished by the fact that his production decline coincides with the abolishment of the "fair-foul" hit (a bunt that rolled foul after first hitting the ground in fair territory) of which he was a master. In fact, illness robbed him of his exceptional skills, much as it did Hall of Famer Elmer Flick three decades later.

I think this is the only one known I just got it and was shown in Feb Pickups. But I think it deserves the extra exposure a VERY rare Baseball card that was unknown for 94 years and purchased from the estate of original owner.

Agreed.

1 of 1 (Best of my knowledge)
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=16836http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=16835

1 of 1 (Best of my knowledge)
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=14755http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=14756

1 of 2 (Best of my knowledge)
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=16833http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=16834

T205 condition / Broadleaf Rarity
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=17436

Jay- First superstar of "professional" baseball.

Spec- The fair-foul rule was available to every player and was the rule of the day. We can only fairly compare players using the rules that were available when they played. The fair-foul argument gets old. Baseball has undergone a ton of rule changes through the years. Apples to apples. Yes, I agree illness was a major factor in Barnes' decline.

The early players whose careers started prior to professional baseball in 1871 should not be held to the "ten year rule" standard. For example, Barnes played 5 years for the Rockford Forest Cities from 1866-1870. The Forest Cities were one of the better teams in the country during those years, yet his service with them counts for nothing. The "pioneer" category was originally intended for players and this should hold true today. There needs to be an avenue created to consider players such as Barnes for HOF induction. Maybe a special committee such as the one that elected a number of Negro League players a few years ago to consider the true baseball "pioneers."

Just a footnote. Look at the career of Sandy Koufax. Barnes career is like Koufax's in reverse. Both were dominant for a 5-6 yaer period.

Weil Baking
 

This is the only 1917 S328 Weil Zimmerman that is graded, and there aren't any 1916 D329 Hamilton's graded.

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Strip cards don't do much for me except for WaJo and Sam Rice strip cards, especially with advertising on the backs. As far as I am aware, both of these are 1 of 1s.
Val

t213-3 double overprint
 

Have shown this before...factory 8 overprints are extremely rare with t213-3s, I believe this is the only known double overprint/mid-card overprint, whatever you want to call it.


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Great card...definitely meets the criteria!!

Very nice signed '41 Play Ball, William! Beauty, eh?!

Wow, I've never seen one like that. Great card Rob. :)

Don't shoot the messenger!
 

Gary: I did NOT say I consider Barnes less than Hall of Fame worthy because of his fair-foul prowess. I just pointed out the circumstance for the benefit of readers who might not know that Barnes' credentials have been discounted by many for that reason as well as for his abbreviated career. For the record, I have long advocated for Barnes' election just as I did for 19th century figures such as Frank Selee and Deacon White, who were long overlooked.

1913 Oakland Oaks Team Issue
 

I love these cards.

Ed, I agree I really like the 1913 Oakland Oaks set as well, especially given that they were likely produced by the same candy maker as the "Texas Tommy" cards (The Cardinet Candy Co.), here are the ones I have been able to pick up over the years...

http://www.starsofthediamond.com/13oaksgardner.jpg http://www.starsofthediamond.com/13oaksgregory.JPG http://www.starsofthediamond.com/13oaksolmstead.JPG

Spec- I apologize if I sounded too strong. No disrespect was intended. We're both in the same corner.

Oversize postcard (5x7). Only seen one other example. Would be interested to know if anyone has seen others.

+1

1905 Baines and Son Baseball Shield
 

Not sure if my rarest, as have not ever confirmed how rare it is. But it is the only one graded by either SGC or PSA (unless I missed one). Was a cool addition to my quest of trying to get a card from every year.
Darrin

Gary--Creighton got paid, thus he was the first professional superstar. I guess that what I think is that there are players equally deserving to Barnes who are not yet in: Stovey, Van Haltren, Ryan, Orr, Browning, Caruthers, etc. Would I get heartburn if Barnes got in--no. However, I wouldn't lose any sleep if he didn't.

Jay-The players you listed are deserving of HOF consideration. However, none of these players played in the pre-major league era. I think those that played pre-1871 need an avenue for HOf consideration as "pioneers" whether they played 10 major league seasons or not. I'm talking guys like Barnes, McVey, Creighton. Currently, these players are technically ineligible for the HOF. An executive or manager can be considered from this era, but not a player. I think that is wrong.

Ah, now I see your point, and I agree. Let's make it a package deal, Barnes and McVey for the HOF. I think McVey is really under appreciated.

Oh, Rhett, those are so nice. Your killing me. Thanks for sharing!

Bruce, That card is absolutely awesome...

Fun thread. Would love to see more.

Not my rarest, but enjoyed picking up
 

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Don't recall if I ever posted this one before. Completely beat, but definitely not common.

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/...%20kleinow.jpg

DJ

Only one I've seen to exist yet

Only one known
https://loveofthegameauctions.com/It.../5551a_lg.jpeg

Great thing about rare cards from unknown sets is that they can be had cheap. So many cards are too rare for their own good.

There is one Bridwell Batting listed with PSA, but it only identifies it as People's Tobacco, not if it is Kotton, Virginia Extra, or MINO. This is the only one I see on SGC. When I got it from Glenn (darwinbulldog), he had this to say about it:

"If, on the other hand, you want a truly rare card, come inside and take a look. It looks as though it's been through a hurricane or two (Betsy? Camille?), and I can't swear it was never placed under a leg to level a chiffarobe or folded into a tube for delivery by carrier pigeon, but hey, it's a Mino.

This is perhaps the only surviving Mino Bridwell (no other copies graded by SGC or PSA). It is, as they say, a true "1 of 1, highest graded!"

So if you like tough T types and Louisiana types and Federal Leaguers and deadball era utility infielders and guys who finished 2nd in the NL to Honus Wagner in position player WAR one year (1909), well, this is the card you've been waiting for."

Sold me on it. I love, still get it out about every week to look at it.

This is my rarest card. It's not a 1/1 like some others in this thread, but the population is low and they're pretty tough to track down.

Top 4
 

Only one of these is a card, but I'll stretch a bit. And I completely agree, Andy. Some sets are too rare to collect, so demand just isn't there. I'm not going for big-name players, so I can often find unusual items for not too much.

Bill

Probably unique...
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t.jpg~original

...not sure about this one; ask Bugsy...
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...a.jpg~original

...these are all ridiculously tough...
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...F.jpg~original

...and this one belonged to Buck Barker (stamp on back)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...1.jpg~original

That is a cool card. It looks to me like it is actually a triple overprint - two at the bottom and one in the middle.