Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 1501736)

I didn't see anybody complain about not having enough tools to block buyers with. That's something Jake brought up with some magic number of (50), that did not exist (yes Jake, it's still closer to the absolutely unattainable (-1). It's a pointless option, which was the only point I was trying to make.

Originally Posted by tschock (Post 1501746)

Dave,
Take heart as at least one person got the point you were trying to make. :) I didn't realize that worthless "option" still existed. :eek:

Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 1501736)

I don't even know why I let Jake drag me into this, but he pushed some sort of button in me....and well, here I am I guess.

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1499473)

man looking at the last 30 or so posts..i have to think, man some posters think MY posts are confusing ...but yet they can understand all of those posts with the analogies ..I need a rosetta stone

Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 1501796)

Thanks guys. I'm really ok. Just a little bit frustrated at the comprehension sometimes.

I should have probably just let it go to begin with. :)

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1501842)

Dave, I can relate and empathize with everything you posted as I do a ton of selling on ebay too. I +1 everything you have said in this thread. I've seen enough though of certain posters here to pretty much never engage them.

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1501847)

What used to frustrate me is that the dishonesty of ebay sellers and their consignors creates an uneven playing field, which is made worse by economies of scale and popularity that grows due to the success of this dishonesty (with their consignors who are Net54 members), allowing a few cheaters who are also good at business to dominate the market.

If you don't cheat and don't tolerate your consignors cheating, you suffer from an uneven playing field. This is also true of auction houses.

Originally Posted by D. Bergin (Post 1501736)

So you're ok with buyers having unlimited retractions? Because that's what this thread is about?

I would think that's an issue for both honest sellers AND buyers.

Jake turned it into a blocked bidder issue by stating faulty information he insisted was correct, which I thought I cleared up pretty straight forward with a screenshot, but he tap danced around it anyways.

I didn't see anybody complain about not having enough tools to block buyers with. That's something Jake brought up with some magic number of (50), that did not exist (yes Jake, it's still closer to the absolutely unattainable (-1). It's a pointless option, which was the only point I was trying to make.

Jake seems to think it's the best thing in the world to be able to retract bids and cancel transactions on a whim. If so, great...but there's going to be push back to that.

For you or him to imply, well just STFU then and go sell somewhere else, is pretty condescending.

If you've never sold on Ebay, and your solution to ANY problem is to just block everybody from bidding in your auctions, and then just waiting for people to contact you so you can vet them one by one...well, I don't know what to say to you.

All I've been saying from the beginning, is how about EBAY just limit retractions, BAM! A whole host of problems solved right there. Easy f*cking peasy!

Shilling questions, a lot of bad buyer issues...AND a ton of bad seller issues, would dramatically decrease overnight. I don't see how that even debatable.

Jake's answer is to just consign your stuff with the big boys who don't give a crap about bidders who retract in their auctions habitually (or let you place "hidden reserve" bids), because according to Jake, he gets his consignment check on time, whether somebody is messing with his auction lots or not.....oh, and he still gets to cancel transactions and retract his bids whenever he wants to also.

BTW, the big boys wouldn't touch my stuff with a 10-foot pole. I'm very, very small time, and anyways, I think I'm perfectly capable of selling my stuff on my own.

I'm not complaining either. At least 99.5% of buyers are fantastic. I know very well how to block buyers I don't want bidding or buying from me. Doesn't mean I ignore everything else going on around me, and just watch in disinterest as Ebay is very slowly destroying their own platform from within...it also doesn't mean that I should just STFU on the rare occasion I (or anybody else) might want to share an anecdote when something IMO, goes very, very wrong...or I notice a new pattern in behavior among a certain segment of buyers that could warn other sellers of the pitfalls they might face (same as what is done here everyday regarding dishonest sellers).

Ebay is still the biggest and best game in town, but there was a time when it was about 1000% more compelling to both buyers and sellers.

I don't even know why I let Jake drag me into this, but he pushed some sort of button in me....and well, here I am I guess.

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1501989)

You seem to be putting a lot of words in my mouth......you say things like 'according to jake' etc.....you made a comment about whether I read the thread..you maybe need to read the thread.....

where do I talk about getting a consignment check on time, where do I say its great to retract bids on a whim where did I say its the best thing in the world........your arguments really look bad when you begin to make up stuff to go with an extreme opinion which I clearly did not say....I argued with you and showed it isn't impossible to block bad bidders...some people agree.....why make up stuff that I didn't say......

.I talked about an example about blocking feedback amounts...so if it doesn't work, theres other options like blocking people that have made a retraction in the last 30 days...you were the one that said it was impossible then you said you roll with the punches with what ebay gives...it doesn't look like you are doing that ...I just commenting that there are tools out there to use...whether you consign or do another blocking method...lots of methods..no need to say things or make up thoughts that I never said...no need to be so dramatic, you aren't on an episode of the Bachelor...when you make up things it really hurts your argument..

go an re-read the thread...

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1501992)

Great come back Jake