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Runscott 01-02-2015 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Section103 (Post 1361615)
You'll never eliminate the complaining, but the further down the line you go, the less the complaints matter. Teams complaining about being #3 or #5 being left out has a chance of being significant to the championship process. Teams complaining about being left out at #65 & #66, have very little chance of being significant to the process.

No one has ever said the complaining will stop. Its about making the process as good and complete as it can be (within constraints).

The process isn't complete enough at 4. We have complaints, so we realize this. The process won't be complete enough with 8. We'll have complaints, so we'll realize this. It won't be complete enough with 16. We'll have complaints, so we'll realize this. It won't be complete enough with 32. We'll have complaints, so we'll realize this. It won't be complete enough with 64. We'll have complaints, so we'll realize this.

Section103 01-02-2015 08:21 PM

After yesterday can you honestly say we were better with only 2? You might. You will be in the minority. But your argument applies just the same to 2.

Runscott 01-02-2015 08:38 PM

I have no idea what you are talking about but if you are responding to my post, ypu have created a straw man. I am good with 4, and as I have stated multiple times, if you want to go beyond 4 you need to pay the players and not require that they go to school.

Runscott 01-02-2015 09:27 PM

Rich, I was on my phone when I responded to your last post, not noticing that it was you again. I realize at this point that you're just looking for a fight, as you haven't honestly addressed either of my posts. I'll leave you to fight with the straw men you have created, hoping that you haven't killed what was otherwise an interesting thread. You can attempt to bait me again, but I won't be reading it.

jason.1969 01-02-2015 09:41 PM

Note that Arkansas is also SEC West and beat Texas 31-7.

Section103 01-02-2015 10:53 PM

My apologies for upsetting you Scott. Apparently, Im not communicating my points well. Regardless, this discussion holds no value to me in any meaningful way. Please carry on knowing I have nothing here to add.

jiw98 01-03-2015 09:52 AM

Scott,
With the current system, you a correct that some team will say, what about us?

I do think the process is closer to what it needs to be. As I have stated before, only conference champions should be involved in the championship tournament. This year they did just that, but didn't involve enough conferences.
TCU would not have been in the tournament with this process as Baylor would have been champs due to the tie breaker. But with the process used this year (human emotions) I don't see how a team can be ranked #3, destroy the team they played and then drop three spots.
If the play-off goes to just conference champions there shouldn't be any complaints. Win your conference or stay home. JMO

vintagetoppsguy 01-03-2015 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jiw98 (Post 1361821)
If the play-off goes to just conference champions there shouldn't be any complaints. Win your conference or stay home.

I agree with this.

rats60 01-03-2015 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jiw98 (Post 1361821)
Scott,
With the current system, you a correct that some team will say, what about us?

I do think the process is closer to what it needs to be. As I have stated before, only conference champions should be involved in the championship tournament. This year they did just that, but didn't involve enough conferences.
TCU would not have been in the tournament with this process as Baylor would have been champs due to the tie breaker. But with the process used this year (human emotions) I don't see how a team can be ranked #3, destroy the team they played and then drop three spots.
If the play-off goes to just conference champions there shouldn't be any complaints. Win your conference or stay home. JMO

Need to get down to 4 conferences. If the Big 12 had been able to get back to 12/14 by poaching the ACC (FSU, Clemson, Va. Tech, Miami) you would have the ideal situation with 4 major conferences all sending their champion to the playoff.

vintagebaseballcardguy 01-03-2015 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jason.1969 (Post 1361728)
Note that Arkansas is also SEC West and beat Texas 31-7.

Woo Pig!!

vintagebaseballcardguy 01-03-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Section103 (Post 1345682)
Either this is hyperbole, out of context, or you're making stuff up. Arkansas has 1 conference win in the last 2 years. Nobody is talking about Arkansas being good on a national level. They're getting better. They're tough and physical. They're not a great team and haven't been since Bobby P fell off his motorcycle.

+1

Arkansas overcame some close loses early on and improved this season.


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