Ok, we'll just trust everything you just said because it's not like you've got a history of fraud and lying. So we'll just take you at your word even though the story literally made me laugh out loud it was such obvious bullshit.

And why are you pretending that what you did in the past wasn't fraud? It was fraud. So how can you claim that you've taken responsibility for your past fraud when you can't even admit it was fraud?

What fraud??? And what is your problem besides being a douche? Obviously you have a boner for me. I would never in my right mind make up a story about being robbed to gain nothing from it. I came here to tell people what happened...not ask for anything.you obviously dont know what fraud means you dickhead. The past has been over for a long time. I never de-frauded anyone ever. You have issues

Thanks for telling us what happened!

And maybe you're right -- I don't know what fraud is. I'm just a criminal defense lawyer who fights fraud charges in federal and state courts every day. Maybe you're just a greasy scumbag who doesn't know what truth is?

Have i done something personally to you? Ive been on here for the past 2 years sharing my collection and participating in his forum. I did make mistakes in the past (not fraud at all). I admitted to what i did a long time ago and was forgiven and given a chance to prove myself. If i was committing fraud id be asking for handouts or insurance fraud. I have no insurance so everything is going to have to be replaced by me. So what fraud do you speak of mr defense lawyer????

I love when people get caught lying or cheating they always claim that it was "mistakes" -- never anything more than "mistakes."

As for what you're planning on doing, I don't care. I'm just happy I could point out what so many people here are thinking: that your story is laughable and not believable.

Calvin i could care less what anyone is thinking. Theres assholes everywhere who have there own personal trust issues and it sounds like you probably have a picture of me on your wall somewhere and think about ways to get me back for nothing i did to you. I dont have to convince you of shit because i doubt youd trust your own mom if she told you you were a man.

That makes about as much sense as your story of getting robbed. And then finding your stuff around the corner. Just sitting there.

Its especially makes alot of sense being a defense lawyer and accusing me of fraud and lying about my house being robbed with nothing whatsoever to gain and having to pay for everything out of pocket..good one calvin

And by the way since you obviously cant read i found 3 of my basketball type 1 photos 2 blocks away. Thats nothing compared to what was taken. I cant explain how or why they were sitting there.

Im not sure about that but you never know. Like i said earlier weve had alot of work done on this house since we moved in. Weve had nothing but bad luck with this house but we signed a 2yr lease so were kind of stuck unless we pay a hefty pro-rated fee. I was talking to my friend who had his house broken into and the thief threw a huge rock through his back sliding glass door during the day and he lives in a quadrant home and still no one saw anything. People are getting more and more desperate these days and bold

Clearly.

Why is this getting so personal? It seems ridiculous.

A little over 2 years ago a member accused me of being a guy named sam who was from california committing all kinds of fraud. He was selling fake cards i think and some other stuff. This member was so convinced it was me that for months he got everyone against me and started going to every forum and telling people i was him. Finally after about 6 months another member tracked down this sam guy and called me personally to apologize for thinking i was him. I live in washington and have no connection whatsoever to that piece of sh*t. He made my life hell and apparently calvindog doesnt know i was cleared or has some personal issue with me after all this time.

Is your fiancé today the one who you claimed got pregnant two years ago when you lied your way out of some deals you agreed upon?

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=146321

Calvin that whole situation has been over for years. I came on here and admitted to what i did. I was given a 2nd chance 2 years ago to prove myself and thats exactly what ive done. Ive had many great transactions with members on here and participated in alot of threads. If youre going to keep reliving the past then you have a serious issue. Dont act like you havent done stupid sh*t in the past. get over it or go talk to a counselor. You dont know me personally except what happened over 2 years ago. And what in the hell would I have to gain about lying about something as serious as a burglary? I have no home insurance so im paying for everything out of pocket and I never once asked anyone for any handouts. So id lie so people could feel sorry for me? lol..sorry to disappoint you dude.

You lied to people on Net 54 and cheated them. Just because you claim you're clean now doesn't mean that I have to presume your bullshit story about losing your collection is real. Do you understand that simple concept? I'll repeat it for you so as to avoid another foul-mouthed, grammatically-challenged PM from you: just because you claim you're clean now does not mean I have to believe your story today. You lied and cheated people on Net 54. If the statute of limitations for a criminal fraud case is 5 years, why does it follow that I have to believe everything you say today when you committed fraud 2 years ago here?

And furthermore: you claim you would never lie out here so people would feel sorry for you? THATS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID TWO YEARS AGO. "My grandmother died. I lost my job. My fiancé is pregnant."

I did lie about some things that I admitted to on here...I never once stole anything from anyone nor did I sell anyone any bogus items ever. I dont care if you believe the sky is blue. I dont know you and from your attitude I dont ever want to know you. Everyone's done something stupid in their life. You learn from it and grow from it. Thats what ive done and thats fine if you dont believe that. Your a lawyer so its probably hard for you to believe anything anyone says.

Just the liars.

Calvin Im done arguing with you over something that happened over 2 years ago. I admitted to what I did, I emailed dan mckee and apologized for being a a$$hole and apologized to everyone on here for my reckless behavior. Im not that same immature guy I was when I first started in this hobby and made alot of mistakes financially and embarassed myself. I was man enough to admit it and have spent over 2 years trying to make it right and earn peoples trust. I love this forum and have learned alot from it. So back off or find someone else to harass

Or else what? You'll agree to buy a card from me and then claim your grandmother died again?

Lol...what a douche

I thought you were done arguing? Or is this you being "man enough" again?

By the way, I received 12 emails or PMs from board members who also think your story about losing your entire collection is bullshit. 12. Not 9 but 12.

Edited to add: in the past 15 minutes, two more people messaged me claiming you were a fraud -- recently, not two years ago. Do you want to explain your recent ebay feedback?

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...rld=true&rt=nc

Wow, Jeff, just WOW!! Thanks for pointing this out :eek:

Why are all of the negative comments marked with positive feedback? This is why people need to leave accurate feedback. If it was negative then say it was.

Good point, I was wondering the same thing.

Ebay sellers cannot leave a negative or neutral feedback anymore.

Why did eBay make that change?

Joey had some bad times (all his fault) as 'Black Italian'. Hopefully there isn't a relapse, as he's a very passionate photo collector.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

Supposedly there were too many buyers afraid to leave negative feedback for sellers who deserved it lest they should get retaliatory negative feedback in return. That was the line from eBay anyway. Real reason is anybody's guess, but it's completely skewed the feedback system to a laughable degree ever since.

Just another example of eBay going after a fly with a 2x4, smacking everyone in the head in the process.

FIVE negative feedbacks from FIVE different sellers for nonpayment in the past 4 1/2 months. Same bullshit excuses he gave two years ago. Plus another eBay seller messaged me about another very recent fraud of Joey's. that's six.

Hey Joey -- who's the douche now?

Another Joey Farino eBay ID with FIVE MORE NEGATIVE FEEDBACKS for nonpayment in the past THREE months (that's 10 if anyone's counting):

http://feedback.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayI...ab=AllFeedback

Lichtman would approve. :D:D

While I cannot defend any non payment issues that may be present, I can comment on my own experience. I have had multiple deals with Joey that were completed without any issues. He paid and shipped items to me immediately.
I'm not trying to start an argument. Just stating my experience with him.

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"Say it isn't So Joe?"

Joey-
That IS a ton of non payments-and the use of different ID's?

So far I've found 9 different eBay IDs for Joey Farino with numerous of them having negative feedback for nonpayment -- all within the past year.

Is it safe to say, they didn't take Joey's mirror?

Police report
 

Joey, let's see that police report. :D

That would be the first logical thing to do... Wouldn't it? :rolleyes:

We've had a few forum members like Joey in the past, who bought tons of stuff then tried to slow themselves down by selling a little, and it didn't work out for them. They still ran out of bucks and then we started seeing weird behavior. Some problem was apparently under control for a year or so, and now it isn't. Beating the shite out of the guy here isn't going to help. We all know he's developed a passion for vintage photos, and that apparently kept him away from past habits that caused him trouble. It looks like he's trying to channel his rekindled 'buy and not pay' problem through ebay rather than here, where he's trying to maintain his hobby social life.

Yeah, I'm making excuses for him. I was more skeptical than anyone when he joined Net54 - I ignored his emails, then questioned him about 'blackitalian'. Eventually I just laid back and watched, and saw him handle himself well for two years. Personally, I like seeing people fix their problems. Now, if he screws me I'll latch into him like a pit bull, and I don't blame anyone else for doing the same, but outside of that I'd prefer to see him get a handle on this.

After reading all these posts wouldn't it be easy to check with the local police to see if a robbery was reported. I am sure if someone robbed me I would have the police there asap.

I don't understand why anyone who doesn't believe him even cares - I can't think of any scam that could relate to the story as he's told it, and I know for a fact that he lives in a sketchy area. As long as he's not asking anyone for money, I have no inclination to make him prove himself. If anyone ends up buying his Joe Jackson Kriendler and wants me to pick it up for them, I have no problem with that.

There is a reason Joey (hi Joey) is STILL NOT allowed on the BST.

I am about 50/50 on his story....maybe a bit less.

Since Joey ISN'T allowed on the BST how else would he be able to advertise his painting for sale if not for this? I am not saying anything funny is going on, just pointing some stuff out.

BTW, I am close to 100% in agreement with Jeff on this.....for those keeping score.

And Scott, yes on the forum Joey is great. On the BST, not so much......

Was this thread determined to just be a fluffed BST thread on the main board? Or are there missing collectibles that we should be on the look out for?

Well, unless a police report shows up on here I'd say the former.

Rob M.

Either once or twice I had to tell Joey not to sell stuff on the main forums as he has been banned from the BST the whole time he has been back on the board, after he was banned long ago. I don't know if this new story of the theft is real or not. I think it's very legitimate to question it, historically speaking.

Some folks question why he is still allowed on the board at all? Well, first of all my goal is to not ban anyone. But there are instances where it's warranted and so be it. There are other instances, like this one, where it's a difficult decision on what to do. As most all of the posters can see, Joey is a great forum participant EXCEPT for his transactions. So, he isn't allowed on the BST but is allowed to engage otherwise. And at the end of the day, don't we all need a little drama so we can make another batch of popcorn and watch :) ?

My apologies for offering to be a middleman for the Kreindler painting sale. Until yesterday morning, I didn't realize that Joey was banned from B/S/T.

Despite the fights, forum members here tend to be very forgiving, as they hope that even someone who behaves very badly really wants to turn things around, even if they might be finding it almost impossible. This is good as long as no one gets ripped off permanently <=== this is kind of an excuse for not supporting Jeff's comments more vocally, but Jeff was spot-on in everything he said.

I don't see anywhere were he lists things that are missing, only lists things that aren't missing and has been found. It seems that if he wants us to keep our eyes open there should be a list of missing items.

So at this point I can see why people would be under the assumption that this is a ruse to sell some items and maybe get a few extra sympathy dollars thrown on top of the sale.

I gotta tell you the very first thing I thought of when I saw this thread was disbelief, but I know he's been a good poster here for a while now so gave him the benefit of the doubt...did not even know he was still banned from the BST.

I doubt he'll come back after this one (although he seems to be checking the board frequently the last few days)...how do you explain all those ebay ID's with the non paying bidder messages?

This thread even made it to CU
apparently he's well known over there too!

Removed

Pretty much the perfect saying for this thread

Have we seen the last of Joey?

He was logged in two hours ago reading this thread. I can't imagine what is keeping him silent though.

His threads are nothing if not entertaining...

“Shame was an emotion he had abandoned years earlier. Addicts know no shame. You disgrace yourself so many times you become immune to it.”
― John Grisham, The Testament

Can someone explain (I'm sure Joey could explain best) why somebody would spend the time to research and agree to purchase an item and then just end all communication and/or not pay for the item? Is it just because they change their minds or do they truly get pleasure out of it because they can hide behind a keyboard and usually away with it?

You're attempting to understand the criminal mind. He's a criminal, plain and simple, and there are no good answers as to why he does what he does, over and over. Keep in mind that he had defrauded numerous people over the past year including people on Net 54 -- but that didn't stop him from attacking me publicly, claiming that he's been an angel for two years. He had to know he would get caught but couldn't control his impulses to lie and cheat. And just because he's also plainly a moron doesn't mean he's not capable of a serious fraud. Give him time, he'll get there.

Looks like he uses several methods to manipulate sellers into lowering prices...

http://forums.collectors.com/message...hreadid=918355

Joey-

We know you're looking at this thread! Any comments?

Why is this fraudster still allowed to log in? I thought he was banned.

I don't think Leon banned him for this.

Obviously avoiding this as he just posted here:

http://live.autographmagazine.com/gr...ource=activity

Looks like this is the end of that.

Just got this from Farino:

"You dumb f*ck.. criminal mind??!! Lol...now i know youre a idiot. I obviously have a ebay problem i need to address as far as paying for items. I havent frauded anybody you douche. I never lied about who i was or ripped anyone off. Ask numerous people on this forum. Ebay is my own issue that i obviously need to get a grip on. Your comments are hysterical because you really dont know shit. Youre just another kirk keith."

Leon, isn't it time he gets banned? I'm not sure what else he needs to do to merit it.


PS: under/over on the number of teeth in his fiance's head. I'm guessing 7.

Do those life-size dolls have teeth?

Well, looks like he's done....

He's online now PMing some lucky soul.

That would be me:

"Hey douche: im sorry but running onto a forum running your mouth is some bitch shit. Thats something a female does. Get your balls outta your vagina and talk to me like a man."

Not only can't Joey Farino spell "irony" but he can't even bother to look it up in a dictionary.

One could argue privately harassing somebody could be considered "bitch shit" so how about it Joey? We know you are there. So why dont you man up and tell it like it is?

Since me being called out by the defense lawyer is breaking news Ill address a few things to clarify what was said and no I wont be responding anymore to this thread. If someone really has questions you can pm me.

First off yes I have multiple Id's on ebay from getting kicked off

I have not paid for a bunch of things

I have a ebay problem as funny as that sounds. I need to address this issue personally and I know it is very wrong.

I have never ripped anyone off when selling anything.

I never lied to anyone to get a discount ever on anything

My aunt does have cancer and is dying. She had ovarian cancer which after radiation she was diagnosed with brain cancer. She now has cancer in her spinal fluid which is almost always terminal

My grandmother did die of lung cancer from smoking almost her whole life

My house did get robbed and I dont have home insurance so I am slowly trying to replace what was taken. I appreciate the people who have been supportive

I have no explanation for my reckless behavior on ebay. I love this hobby and alot of times I feel like I have to have every cool thing I see. I know thats not reality. In a way it is ocd'ish and I could use alot of help on different ways to stay involved in the hobby without always feeling like I have to buy something.

Ive embarassed myself to say the least. Ive formed alot of good relationships with people on here. Ive always delivered any items ive sold to anyone on here. That doesnt make my behavior okay and never will.

And last but not least Jeff you are in fact a douche bag..lol...for you to come on here and bring up things in my past that I was cleared of is a d*ck move. And to bring my personal life into it is even worse. But guys like you thrive on moments like this. You may be respected in this hobby but outside of it youre a douche bag. I never did anything to you and kirk keith spent months to try and convince people I was somebody named sam only to find out that he was very wrong and it was proven on here that I wasnt.

I don't have a problem with Joey being a member as long as he is banned from the BST. His eBay issues don't have anything to do with the site.

Agreed.

Except for the fact that many of us sell on ebay, and at least one of our members he stiffed. OCD or not, how does one make a best offer on a BIN and not pay for it once it's accepted? If you don't have the money to pay for an item then why are you even wasting someone's time with an offer?

Theres not a good enough answer that can justify that. I have every intention of paying but like i said when i see something i want more after the fact then i get reckless. It is a big issue for me and something that will stop.

I think what Alex meant (and he can correct me if I'm wrong) is that Joey's eBay issues shouldn't play any part as to whether he's a member here or not. If Jeff of anybody else wants to continue posting his eBay behavior to warn other sellers, I don't have a problem with that, but it should not be used against him to determine his membership here (as long as it stays outside the forum).

David - Those are my sentiments.

Perhaps Adrian could shed some light on that. He seemed to have similar issues.

if it means anything to you guys Im sorry. I found a hobby that Im real passionate about and have gone about things the wrong way for a long time. Theres so many cool things out there that I get reckless and go on these ebay rants. It is a problem and very wrong. There is nothing I can say to justify my behavior but hope that at least some of you realize that I really do want to be a part of this forum.

And jeff you couldve came to me personally and asked me about any of this before attacking me. I wouldve addressed any issue you had. I dont know you and have never personally done any business with you. But dont ever bring my personal life or family into any of this. Thats a d*ck move

if any of you want to talk more about this you can pm me but otherwise theres really nothing more to say about this