I also think it's safe to say that the guy originally IDed as Willis Cole in #35 (below left) was correctly identified.

Can anyone identify Cuke Barrows? I believe the initial guess was changed. He did play according to the newspaper article.

It wasn't a guess and it did not change.

Catcher

Sorry Mark, I did not read the , in your append ".....Cuke Barrows, ? (holding baby)" and thought you were guessing the player holding baby was Barrows with a ?.

Thanks for pointing him out. I maybe related to him as I have same last name and relatives that did come from the same area in Maine that he lived.

Peter: no need to apologize to me. My reply to you was kind of abrupt. Anyway, "? (holding baby)" is Irv Young.

Dto7: While that is McMurray with the catchers mitt in the Sox team 1 photo, I don't see him in the Royal Gorge photo.

Looks like catcher Yip Owens. 2 from Royal Gorge photos. Yip Owens 1905 Red Sox and 1909 White Sox.

Yip Owens, Cuke Barrows. Got to love ballplayer names back then

Yip Owens (major league debut 1905) it is. Note that his Baseball-Reference image is actually a photo of Frank Owen (major league debut 1901) who is also sometimes known as Yip.

I think the nickname Yip should only apply to pitcher Frank Owen. As the SABR bioproject quoted below notes, there is a reasonable chance that "Yip" was only attributed to catcher Frank Owens due to confusion between the two players with similar names. I know Yip has persisted for both players for quite some time, but it only makes sense as a nickname for the pitcher from Ypsilanti.

BTW, great work Don and Mark. I wish there were more threads like this.

Quote from http://sabr.org/bioproj/person/e2b171ab :
"Where did the nickname Yip come from? We have been able to find only a couple of references to Yip Owens, both more than five years after he’d finished playing in the majors. It’s entirely possible those were mistakes, confusing him with another man of a similar name, Frank Malcolm Owen, who pitched in the American League starting in 1901 and was a 21-game winner both in 1904 and 1905 for the White Sox. Frank Malcolm Owen came from Ypsilanti, Michigan, and understandably did get the nickname Yip used occasionally in print during his career. When Frank Owens the catcher came along just a few years later, he may have picked up the name when he arrived – or it may simply be a mistake. Such mistakes were made; Owen – the pitcher – was frequently referred to as Owens (with the “s”) in print at the time. And there are times when Owens was referred to as Owen."

"White Sox owner Charles Comiskey had his men travel to California again in the spring of 1910, and Owens contracted tonsillitis in Sacramento. "

The Player in white could be Ray Ryan.

Could this be Al Louis Shaw but not to be confused with Al Simpson Shaw.

Ryan yes.

Shaw no - the easiest thing to see is the ear shape difference between the face in question and the two Shaw images on the right. There are other issues as well.

Sometimes you can find exactly what you need. Unknown guy from Royal Gorge below left, Al Louis Shaw with Detroit 1900, right. The ears immediately tell the story.

Would you say that this is the same player.

For sure.

I'm speculating at this point, but he may be Charlie French. He is a pretty good match to the face labeled as French in the 1910 White Sox team headshots in the 1911 Spalding Guide. Note that the Charlie French photo on Baseball-Reference is someone else - so one of them is wrong.

Could be French. But I don't have him on any list and his name wasn't in any of the box scores that I saw. White Sox didn't him from the Boston Red Sox until May 19, 1910.

Charlie French 1909 Red Sox Spring camp.

Then it's not likely French. Found his c46 card - just someone who looks somewhat similar.

Here's another photo of that unknown player in the second Royal Gorge photo. The player in white top left.

According to The Chicago Examiner players waiting on the west coast for the Comiskey train.

The Players were Bill Burns, Chick Gandil, Victor Holm, Hugh McMurray, Charlie Mullen, Jim Scott, and Shaw.

I think this is Johnny Beall

The unknown player is catcher Art Kruger who played pro baseball for one year for the 1910 Lincoln Railsplitters of the Western League. Not to be confused with Arthur Theodore Kruger who played in the majors 1907-1915.

Awesome Don. It's amazing that the newspaper item chose to feature a close-up of Kruger.

I have no doubt this guy is Beall.

Thanks, Mark. I think I passed over that photo twice when looking for names of players .

The Chicago White Sox baseball team heading to the west coast for Spring training on the Denver & Rio Grande through the Royal Gorge.

ID of the players in uniform by Mark Fimoff (bmarlowe) and Don Stokes (Dto7).

1. Ray Ryan 2. Billy Purtell 3. Billy Sullivan 4. Willis Cole 5. Fred Olmstead 6. Cuke Barrows 7. Warren Gill 8. John Schmirler 9. Frank Lange

10. Frank Smith 11. Irv Young 12. Lena Blackburne 13. Yip Owens 14. Harry Suter 15. Chet Waite 16. Ed Hahn 17. Lee Tannehill

18. Freddy Parent 19. Art Kruger(minor leaguer) 20. Shano Collins 21. Bruno Block 22. Hugh Duffy 23. Fred Payne 24. Rollie Zeider

25. Bobby Messenger 26. Johnny Beall 27. Ed Walsh

You guys are amazing (and I say this as someone who has written a half-dozen history books for major publishers). Happy I got this thread started. And to think I bought that postcard mainly for the "art" of it.

Royal Gorgeous!
 

They are the dynamic duo...I printed off this group shot with all the players in uniform identified to enhance the postcard (thanks Seablaster) that I just picked up. Thanks for the non-stop effort! And thanks again Greg for bringing it to our attention...look how hard you made those guys work.

Brian

Ok. Now identify the women and children.

Mary Comiskey and son Louis, Mrs. Robert McRoy and son, Mrs. Bernoudy and her two children, Mrs. Irv Young and child, Mrs. G. Harris White, Mrs. George Rice, Mrs. T. J. Kelley, Mrs. Frank Smith and Mrs. R. N. Henshaw.