"It shouldn't sting it should be refreshing...."

If I were the consignor and found out, it would sting a whole lot.:(

the consigner is now aware of what a brown old mill card is....

they were not beforehand.


kevin

refreshing...like a York peppermint pattie!

Ugh...loaded with sugar....bad for your teeth!:D

Sid Smith Brown Old Mill
 

I won the Brown Old Mill Sid Smith.

To answer some of the questions people had:

* I was almost 100% sure that the back of the card was brown.
* I was willing to take a chance even if I was wrong and set my max bid to several thousand dollars higher than the ending price.

I first noticed the card shortly after it was listed and was keeping an eye on it to look for any unusual bidding. This would be a clear indication that others had also spotted the card. The bidding appeared normal with only a few minutes left, but I was still very worried that someone else had seen the card and was waiting to put in a last minute snipe. To my utter amazement and shock I couldn’t believe that the ending price was only $51.50

I actually started to second guess myself because no one else bid up the card, but since the winning bid was so low it really didn’t matter at that point if I was wrong.

Needless to say I was a very happy camper after examining the card in person.

I still have no clue how others didn't spot this card. There are some extremely knowledgeable collectors that I know look for items such as this on eBay. How everyone else missed this card is still mind blowing to me.

A few people have inquired about whether the card was for sale and my answer was no. At this point I want to keep it in my collection.

Thanks,

Jerry

congrats Jerry...great get!!!

Nice pickup Jerry!

I do look for them, but didn't see this one.

Legit T207 brown prints sure don't get this type of attention...

Rob

Jerry congrats on your purchase, we are all envious of that grab.

I echo the others, congratulations Jerry, that's an amazing pick up!!

Brown Old Mill
 

Great Find Jerry. Congrats. That tops my find from 3 Months ago when I purchased a Raw T206 Tinker Bat off w/ an A Beauty 460 back for $100 . Had it Graded by PSA and it came back a Gr 1 due to minor Paper Loss on the back. It was the only one graded by PSA so I sent it to Goodwin Auction. Final Price at end of Auction was $3800.00. Your Find should Quadruple that and More. Goes to Show that there are still Great Finds out there to be Found.

Regards
John P

Danny boy- first of all, I have nothing but respect for Scott Forrest, great guy. He is nothing at all like you, obnoxious, arrogant, disgusting, and incredibly crude (your good points). You can dish it out, but you damn sure can't take it. It's funny how some people on this board find you somewhat humorous, but deep down they have to wonder, "what in the hell is this guy so miserable about?" By the way, no need to sabotage your Ebay auctions, I only placed a bid on one, just one mind you, and your response was "get a f***ing life you asshole, I get sick and tired of you MFers" Anytime you want to meet me, let me know pal....Oh, by the way, have a nice day....

I was trying hard to refrain from posting a negative comment but quite honestly, I have this stupid trait where I'm a straight shooter and I don't hold back on what I think. The comment was dick. This is now like the 3rd time I think, that my thread has been wrecked by the two of you going at it. I believe Dan instigated all of them but I'm honestly not sure.

You show up, make a bunch of worthless comments against the entire community of people and then disappear? Get a life guy.

I have actually removed half of what I was going to say after typing it out, because quite honestly its just not worth the flood of single sentance PMs you are about to send me. The attack mentality doesn't mean you win an argument that doesn't exist.

Leon, can we setup a section on the board for people to put on the punching gloves or something?

Kevin

No matter what they say about each other, they are both nice guys. I'm sure they will bury the hatchet when they meet. But I would encourage each to wear chain mail, just in case.

What constitutes being a good guy? Being fair in a deal, treating people with respect?

Maybe they are different people in person?

I guess it would be good at this point to understand this whole thing, so someone please explain it.

Kevin

This ought to clear things up......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxtN0xxzfsw:D

Kevin, I don't think I've ever met you in person or talked with you on the phone. Perhaps you are the exact image of your internet persona. If so, there aren't many people like you, but I applaud you for successfully pulling that off.

Despite what Kevin and Dan might say, they are not the same in person as they are on the internet. Hopefully I'm not either.

Kevin, my apologies - I think we did actually meet briefly at the National.

Yes. I am the same in person. Sometimes the no filter gets me in trouble but not saying something at all when you feel that saying something is the right thing to do is regretful. I don't really take much personally, so i think its better to say it, hash it out and move on rather than let it linger. I also don't like to dwell on things that are dead.

I try not to live my life that way.

We did yes. Sorry for having to run so fast. I wish I could have stayed and chatted a little longer but I only stopped in to buy something real quick. I had people waiting on me.


kevin

Brown OM Back
 

Putting all of the blame on PWCC is absurd (although I believe they do share in some of the responsibility). This card has passed from many hands and nobody caught it until now.

1.) The owner that submitted the card to PSA should have known what he was submitting and requested PSA to list it as a brown OM on the flip.

2.) The "experts" at PSA should have caught it as well, even if the submitter didn't.

3.) The consigner (and the consigner and submitter may or may not be one in the same) should have known what he had.

4.) PWCC should have caught it and listed it properly (does eBay still have featured listings?).

5.) All of the eyes that looked at it during the auction duration missed the fact that it was a brown OM.

My point is that this card was viewed by many, many people, some in person, some on-line, and all but 1 missed it. The buyer got a steal and congrats to him!

I think my biggest worry would have been someone catching it before PWCC sent it out and cancelling the transaction....I'll bet that was an anxious few days before you finally had it in hand. Congrats on what has to be the biggest steal I've ever seen on ebay.

Brown Old Mill
 

Dan,

For some reason the thought of the eBay transaction being cancelled didn't even cross my mind, but you bring up a very valid point. I was much more worried about the card being lost in the mail.

The whole thing still seems surreal.


Thanks to all for the kind words and congratulations.

Jerry

It's a good thing you didn't ask them to insure it for $10,000. :D

It's going to a great guy. Congrats Jerry, you deserve it.

Kevin, since you ask this goes back to Dan having an SGC 84 Ryan on eBay awhile back that Kevin wanted. Kevin sent what he said was "granted a low ball offer" then Dan in very direct terms told him to pound sand.

Then Kevin started a thread below claiming that Dan was selling trimmed cards and proceeded to rag the very card he tried to buy. The thread then backfired on Kevin as lots of folks said the card didn't look trimmed to them. After the thread went south Kevin asked to have the whole thing deleted here it is.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ighlight=Kevin

Since I was one of the folks who was on Dan's side on this card and supported Dan. Kevin now has beef with me also. From PM's, demands to call him, snide shots, announcments to me via PM that he is "one of the top 5 T206 collectors around" etc. how dare I question him....the usual stuff.:)

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=163953&page=2

More classic Kevin Mize...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=162343&page=3

That's about the sum of the drama.

i wasn't actually serious and its to late to read the threads in full but it is mildly funny if that is the case because the same thing sort of happened when i made an offer on a psa 7 brown cubs on shirt card and he thought it was low and i said his price was high. i put it to an anonymous vote where nobody knew any of the circumstances behind it and then the shit hit the fan.

can't say i know either well enough to confirm or deny anything between them and id like to think kevin and i are past that disagreement :)

still sort of funny.

kevin

No worries, I only posted cause you asked...just showing there are 2 sides on this one. :)