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itjclarke 06-21-2013 12:22 AM

"Tact of a troll" has a great ring to it.

deadballfreaK 06-21-2013 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cyseymour (Post 1149103)
I don't think you ought to be disappointed in yourself. You did a good thing and stood up for yourself and everyone else on here. I am not trying to demonize Adrian, but as likable as he sometimes was, he was way out of line and really inappropriate far too often.

I also felt that he was very manipulative - often lying, or telling sob stories about his life after being caught in a lie, reneging on card deals, advertising his cards while posing as if he was searching for advice, etc. Plus, he was dominating the boards with his endless posts.

All in all, it was about time that he left, and maybe that isn't stooping to someone's level - you didn't retaliate to his insults or anything. But thanks for standing up for everyone on the board - it will be better for the entire community in the long run, and for Adrian, as well.

He had some good whiny stories about his childhood, but I believe he was full of it. Mostly lies. Reminded me of Jon Lovitz.

Cardboard Junkie 06-21-2013 01:18 AM

Epic, Eric, epic.:)

BigJJ 06-21-2013 03:00 AM

Bill, my best.
did the absolute best you could given what was coming your way.
And you're one hundred percent right, rough times can and should make you more empathetic, and more thankful.
Babe Ruth had six of seven siblings die in childhood. was essentially left to the streets of Baltimore. then to an orphanage, and his parents called him 'incorrigible'. Babe was in survival mode his whole childhood. six of his siblings lost that battle. And then he was going to sew, with those huge lumbering hands. which he did for hours and hours at St Mary's.
And Babe turned into the most happy, happiness spreading guy around, and particularly to children. giving to them thoughtfulness, time, and fun.

Rich Klein 06-21-2013 06:50 AM

For whatever reason
 
Adrian, such as Pete Chao before him, never bothered me in terms of reading his posts. It was in one ear and out the other.

RIch

Jacklitsch 06-21-2013 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Klein (Post 1149174)
Adrian, such as Pete Chao before him, never bothered me in terms of reading his posts. It was in one ear and out the other.

RIch

Agreed.

mr2686 06-21-2013 07:29 AM

No, No, you guys just don't understand. Leon is on to all of you and if Adrian goes down then all of you will go down...oh, wait...Adrian's gone and you're all still here. Hmmm...carry on.

t206hound 06-21-2013 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadballfreaK (Post 1149125)
He had some good whiny stories about his childhood, but I believe he was full of it. Mostly lies. Reminded me of Jon Lovitz.

Yeah... that's the ticket.

HOF Auto Rookies 06-21-2013 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyseymour (Post 1149103)
I don't think you ought to be disappointed in yourself. You did a good thing and stood up for yourself and everyone else on here. I am not trying to demonize Adrian, but as likable as he sometimes was, he was way out of line and really inappropriate far too often.

I also felt that he was very manipulative - often lying, or telling sob stories about his life after being caught in a lie, reneging on card deals, advertising his cards while posing as if he was searching for advice, etc. Plus, he was dominating the boards with his endless posts.

All in all, it was about time that he left, and maybe that isn't stooping to someone's level - you didn't retaliate to his insults or anything. But thanks for standing up for everyone on the board - it will be better for the entire community in the long run, and for Adrian, as well.

+1, if he had talked to me like that, I'm sure I would have gotten the ban-hammer as well. I think you were 100000% justified in what you did with how he attacked you with no alterior motives.

Bill, just remember one thing, you didn't stoop to his level. If people are trying to bring you DOWN, it only means that you are above them

novakjr 06-21-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Klein (Post 1149174)
Adrian, such as Pete Chao before him, never bothered me in terms of reading his posts. It was in one ear and out the other.

RIch

Just imagine the chaos that those two, plus steaknchop and the nuns Wanger guy could cause if they were to somehow combine forces..

Bocabirdman 06-21-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by novakjr (Post 1149211)
Just imagine the chaos that those two, plus steaknchop and the nuns Wanger guy could cause if they were to somehow combine forces..

I think those four are going to be in the next Superman sequel, pushing the Man of Steel to use the Leon Hot-line.:D

auggiedoggy 06-21-2013 09:08 AM

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Just imagine the chaos that those two, plus steaknchop and the nuns Wanger guy could cause if they were to somehow combine forces..

The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse!!! :eek::eek::eek:

mark evans 06-21-2013 09:19 AM

Good decision, Leon...especially once things turned vulgar. I fully expect that Adrian would have burned out on his own accord eventually but no reason to subject the Board to his nonsense any longer.

Cardboard Junkie 06-21-2013 09:37 AM

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The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse!!! :eek::eek::eek:

Cool!

the 'stache 06-21-2013 09:15 PM

Thank you, Brent and Jon.

Theo_450 06-21-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric72 (Post 1149105)
Just ten thirty five and his posting was done
The yelling had stopped although no one had won

He jousted with members, in two threads per day
While some of us wished that he’d just go away

He did try that once in post seven five one
The yelling had stopped although no one had won

He quickly returned on that very same day
And then, true to form, he had something to say

Intensified rants were his true tour-de-force
The yelling resumed and we all knew the source

He stepped up his game when attacking the board
While making an illness his own shield and sword

Our members revolted, their numbers did swell
The yelling got louder; we all know too well

Quite furious posts while exposing his soul
When making his point with the tact of a troll

Truly, I'm glad that new days have begun
The yelling has stopped and our forum has won

- Eric



P.S. Leon, thanks. You have the patience of Job. I truly appreciate everything you do for the hobby. In my opinion, your contributions go far beyond this board. And you do one hell of a job here, too, by the way. Just my opinion.

A fine ballad. I tip my hat to you.

jcmtiger 06-21-2013 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Theo_450 (Post 1149568)
A fine ballad. I tip my hat to you.

Good job eric, that took some thinking.

Joe

Peter_Spaeth 06-23-2013 11:51 AM

Reneged again with another story
 
It appears that Mr. 99 percent has reneged again, with another story, this time on a high dollar purchase of a high grade Mantle card on ebay. 1952toppsmantle for those keeping score. I am cognizant that he cannot respond, but on balance it seemed appropriate to warn folks.

Eric72 06-23-2013 05:44 PM

Thank you!
 
I just wanted to leave a quick post to thank those who commented on my little poem/song. I truly appreciate all of your kind words.

Although I had some issues with Adrian, especially early on, I wish him the very best in all of his future endeavors. Here's hoping that he finds whatever it is that he's looking for.

Best regards and peace to all,

Eric

ullmandds 06-24-2013 12:08 PM

It'd be kinda funny if all of his current auctions on ebay were re-negged upon by the buyers because they changed their minds...I wonder if Adrian would be ok with that?!

Peter_Spaeth 06-24-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1150392)
It'd be kinda funny if all of his current auctions on ebay were re-negged upon by the buyers because they changed their minds...I wonder if Adrian would be ok with that?!

Negative feedbacks need to be reinstated to protect buyers and sellers.

ullmandds 06-24-2013 12:21 PM

I agree...but I don't think ebay ever will?!

auggiedoggy 06-24-2013 12:28 PM

Agree 100%
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1150398)
Negative feedbacks need to be reinstated to protect buyers and sellers.

+1

1880nonsports 06-24-2013 12:51 PM

he has things listed on eBay?
 
I have to be reading this wrong :-)

ullmandds 06-24-2013 12:55 PM

Yes...he does. He hasn't been banned from ebay yet as far as I know. Maybe he will be due to high shipping fees?!

botn 06-24-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1150398)
Negative feedbacks need to be reinstated to protect buyers and sellers.

Absolutely but after speaking with an upper level management talking head, that day will never come where a seller can leave anything but a positive. The explanation I was given neither made sense nor instilled confidence that sellers were being looked after. The real reason for most of the changes that have taken place in the last few years was to compete with Amazon.com. Taking the seller's ability to leave a neutral or negative was to encourage buyers to stick with eBay since Amazon employs a feedback score only for the sellers.

Sorry to go off topic. Back to the poetry...

arc2q 06-24-2013 01:08 PM

Peter / Pete-
I am a novice with eBay and relatively new to this board too. Plus I'm just plain curious. So I have spent the better part of the day searching his user ID on eBay and looking at his feedback and current listings. I am not finding anything about problems with recent transactions. The curiousity is now occupying every minute of my day at work and I will not accomplish anything productive today unless I figure out how to sleuth this kind of info through eBay. Is there something in particular I am missing when searching that User ID?
Thanks,
Andy

ullmandds 06-24-2013 01:12 PM

With ebay's modern rules...I'm guessing such info cannot even be "sleuthed" out?!

ullmandds 06-24-2013 01:13 PM

as a potential buyer of his cards...I'm sure there isn't much to worry about...I just wouldn't sell him anything unless he paid me first?!

Peter_Spaeth 06-24-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by arc2q (Post 1150422)
Peter / Pete-
I am a novice with eBay and relatively new to this board too. Plus I'm just plain curious. So I have spent the better part of the day searching his user ID on eBay and looking at his feedback and current listings. I am not finding anything about problems with recent transactions. The curiousity is now occupying every minute of my day at work and I will not accomplish anything productive today unless I figure out how to sleuth this kind of info through eBay. Is there something in particular I am missing when searching that User ID?
Thanks,
Andy

That is the problem with ebay as it now works -- when he buys cards and then reneges, as he has done based on what people have told me on at least several occasions and in all likelihood far more, sellers cannot leave him a negative feedback.

glchen 06-24-2013 01:54 PM

Off topic, but right now, it looks like you cannot even leave "negative" feedback for a non-paying bidder on ebay. When you open the nonpyament case on ebay, it automatically removes any feedback that the buyer has left already. And when the case is closed, the seller cannot leave any feedback also. It used to be that you could leave "positive" feedback, but still put in the comments that the buyer did not pay as a warning to other sellers.

SetBuilder 06-24-2013 02:19 PM

I can't wait until eBay's auction patents expire.

steve B 06-24-2013 02:25 PM

There's better stuff out there already.

SetBuilder 06-24-2013 02:40 PM

You can sell vintage stuff on Etsy. Anyone have any luck over there?

botn 06-24-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glchen (Post 1150440)
Off topic, but right now, it looks like you cannot even leave "negative" feedback for a non-paying bidder on ebay. When you open the nonpyament case on ebay, it automatically removes any feedback that the buyer has left already. And when the case is closed, the seller cannot leave any feedback also. It used to be that you could leave "positive" feedback, but still put in the comments that the buyer did not pay as a warning to other sellers.

Hi Gary,

If a seller leaves a positive feedback and the feedback comment is negative, eBay will not only remove it, but it is also grounds for a suspension for the seller. It is a very hostile place to try to conduct business.

Greg

Peter_Spaeth 06-24-2013 02:54 PM

Maybe Eric can follow up with a poem about the state of ebay.

Here's a hint, renege rhymes with neg.

kmac32 06-24-2013 05:05 PM

Roses are red
Violets are blue
eBay sucks
The end!

bobbyw8469 06-24-2013 06:54 PM

That was beautiful!

JollyRoger 06-25-2013 04:53 PM

Man, that guy was annoying.

Eric72 06-25-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1150471)

Maybe Eric can follow up with a poem about the state of ebay.

There once was a site from Nantucket.........

Never mind, Ken nailed it. :D

Best,

Eric


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