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So if Wit won't produce the order details, can Brandon at least explain why he placed a bid on a ball he thought was fake a day b4 the auction ended, and if his thinking as was mentioned was so that no one else would win it, 1. why $300, that surely doesn't guarantee no one else wins it, place it at $1,000 since u know u are not going to pay it, then yes that way it makes it believeable. $400 "won" it. So $300 obviously wasn't an attempt to win it.
And 2. since your bid was placed the day b4 the auction ended, why do you not post a comment about a fake baseball out on Ebay. You are the expert, don't u like helping fellow collectors into not being duped. A comment would have ensured no one her would bid on it. No comments until after it was outed. If that can be explained I'll walk away and retract my doubts. |
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Thank you, Witser, I didn't know abut that thread on the other forum. Given that you were skeptical of pastimebaseballs.com then (both in your first post on the thread you began and again in your concluding post), aren't you the least bit curious as to this seller's connection to pastimebaseballs.com, who just happened to change their eBay user id from brandongrun? I am. Jerry F!cch! |
Ok, I'm a little slow this morning. There are more pages to the thread Witster provided. I referenced the first and last post of his on the first page, only.
The second page includes a response from Brandon of pastimebaseballs.com. Look, obviously he is very knowledgable about the history of baseballs and should continue to share it. However, why hide personal history, even if it entailed producing replica baseballs that looked damned near original? Tell us the whole story and let's all move forward. |
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If there was a pattern of behavior such as the one described in this thread then I think the witch hunt should continue but this seems like nothing more than a mistake/misunderstanding/whatever. Who hasnt made these types of errors at one time or another? Let it go guys. Let it go. |
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The "WHOLE STORY" Hasnt been fabricated yet;) Someone has to figure out who will become the whipping boy. I also agree with Dan Money really has nothing to do with it. This is really a case of Boy got caught with his hand in the cookie jar,is now called out about it and has to figure a way out. Problem is now his creditably is shot to pieces either way he turns. Sorry Brandon I could never ever deal with you . As you put it a 20.50 mistake will now probably cost you your reputation my friend!:rolleyes: |
I'm definitely late to the conversation, but I was shocked by what I began reading yesterday, and these attacks on Brandon have been bothering me since.
Al, I'm sure Brandon is just devastated that he'll never make a deal with you or your ridiculous emoticons ever again. I've got to say between you and Paul and Jerry and a couple of other folks on this thread, I'm deeply disappointed in how easy you all throw around accusations about a person who has gone above and beyond to help so many of us out with questions and concerns about vintage baseballs. I first corresponded with Brandon when I had a bad eBay experience where someone sold me a fake ball. He couldn't have been more helpful and I've gone to him for valuable advice many time since then. To think he'd throw away his hard earned reputation over a $20.50 ball is lunacy. It makes no sense. Doug Franz |
The hobby of collecting is run everyday on the guise of the confidence game. You gain confidence in a person/company until you believe everything they say or do.
It is the invention of ones self and once you become a believer you are forever captured |
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Your right you are late to this conversation. 1) Go back to post 38 and read it Brandon himself says "I made a 20.50 mistake" 2)As for dealing with him I stated my opinion as you stated yours. I could really give a damn either way. 3) I only posted once in this entire thread. 4) As for yourself I give no weight to a person who has only posted 2 times and given nothing to this board. Looks to me like a person who is friends with Brandon trying to save his @ss. |
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Here is the post in case you missed it. Your own boys words! And as for creditably until he gives up the name of the person HE HAS NONE! |
Quoted from Harper Lee in the book To Kill A Mockingbird, " You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view...Until you climb inside his skin and walk around in it."
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The seller has changed his eBay user ID.
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After reading this thread and Brandon's knowledge that there are people on this site that can get things taken down. Wy did he not ask for help. Then there would be reason to go through all this crap.:confused:
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Shelly, I'm sure he realized that he would get thrown under the bus - if a situation comes up where your reputation could be damaged permanently, it's probably best to seek advice privately. But we all handle such situations differently - I would have gone to Leon and asked him for a contact to get the ball removed, then I would have posted to let everyone here know what I had done. But I don't know Brandon and there could also be additional detail about this that we don't know.
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So you dont agree? Yet you do agree if he had the ball removed this would not have happened.
I also agree that here is a guy that everyone went to for help when it came down to bb's . Now he is a bad guy:confused: |
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Wow...took me a while to get through all of that...
Alot of great concerns here, but I agree that this sounds more like a witch hunt. Firstly my name is also Brandon and I reside in Ontario Canada. I have never met Grun face to face ( what with the thousands of kms between us ) but have spoken with him on the phone a few times and conversed through hundreds of emails and facebook. I consider him a friend whom I have never actually met. I also collect antique baseballs...when I can afford the ever growing prices...and Blue Jays memorabilia ( lol dont judge ). Brandon is all about the hobby. Period. He ousts fake balls all of the time with the interest of protecting the hobby. He has accomplished more for the hobby in the last few years than anyone could have imagined, so some respect should be give to him is this respect...not to mention some praise. He emails ebay all the time having balls removed due to inaccuracies or speculations... I bet he has helped most ball collectors even without their knowledge somewhere along the line. He has stopped me from bidding on balls and has helped me with tips bidding on balls through other certain auction sites. When he said earlier that he doesnt/wont make alot of money on his books...trust me...he wont be. Ive spoken with him about this sort of thing. He is producing his book (s) for his extreme love for the actual history of baseballs. I trust EVERYTHING Brandon has ever said to me about baseballs because he IS the expert on baseballs. Can anyone else say that? There is not a chance he would throw any of his success away for a Frick ball. None at all. Brandon has given his explanation on this matter, so bashing him ( because that is what is occuring here ) doesnt help things. He has cleared up the mess on his end and Im sure will be more diligent in helping the hobby in finding more fraudulant baseballs...but remember here guys, he has a day job and cant sit on these auction sites all day long, so some are going to get by even his eye. |
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