A fellow board member and collector pointed out yet another card where the artist took the liberty to rotate the image (once again) about 20-25 degrees counterclockwise. Found at T206resource.com, you can also see the same artistic tilt effect used on the Patsy Dougherty card.

Although the debate of horizontal vs. vertical might be getting a bit old, this discussion does give a little insight into how these cards were originally laid out and cropped by the artists who helped create what we call The Monster.

It seems like in each case (Bender, Dunn, and now Dougherty) the guy laying out the artwork on the card rotated the image about 20 degrees counterclockwise. In the case of the Dunn, it creates an odd effect if you view the card vertically, but with Bender and Dougherty it fits the card.

I can also see why the artist took these liberties -- he/she had a fairly narrow window to work within, so these changes were possibly made to make the player "fit" on the image space of the card, without having to show a bunch of dead space above the player.

In conclusion, I believe the original image used for the Dunn was a shot of him standing upright to make a basket catch. However, it is possible that the intention of the artist was to give the viewer the effect that Dunn is diving -- it's possible. :D

Here's the Dougherty comparison, and what I think the Dunn card would've looked like if the artist did not use the tilt effect (notice all the dead space I had to leave above Dunn, almost making it look like an E card)...

Before reading the evidence presented here (which I will not rehash) I would have leaned toward the card being horizantal, albeit with a great deal of uncertainty.

Although still somewhat ambiguous, my thinking has definitely shifted towards thinking it is vertical but with the diagonal tilt illustrated on these other cards. The card is interesting because, in my opinion, it was so poorly executed. I don't think it was on purpose to confuse. Anyway, for some reason I found this discussion interesting.

Another one that's been rotated is Davis.
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=14002http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=14003

The T206 may be the rotated one.

The one shown may also be a bit special but it's in bad enough shape it's hard to tell. But that's for another thread.

Steve B

Now the question is... Moose McCormick.... vertical or horizontal???

:D

Chuck...I don't think this topic is getting old as long as we continue to find reasons to keep it alive...and I don't mean beating it into the ground...I think we've made progress! There have been more than a few members contribute with pictures and good/helpful info.

McCormick....definitely horizontal!!:D

Trouble Maker :D

Anybody named "Moose" doesn't go diving for baseballs, so it's a VERTICAL!:D

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Since no one's biting:

:D Nice! Missing color variation, too! ;)

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O NO.!.!.!

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horizontal or vertical
 

Guys named "Moose" only field ground balls.
(Everyone knows this.)