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t206hound 02-10-2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jantz (Post 1378417)
The Chance is interesting Er!ck because a crop line has also appeared on a Chance (yellow) before, but it had a Sweet Caporal 350-460 f#25 back.

Thanks everyone for posting these recent finds.

My guess is that the sheet layouts (of cards that are common) between the sweet cap factory designations where shared. For example, the Ames Portrait in SC350 has been found with both the 25 and 30 "huge factory number at back bottom" suggesting that they were at the same sheet location with both factory designations:

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1412818391

Jantz 02-10-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by t206hound (Post 1378470)
My guess is that the sheet layouts (of cards that are common) between the sweet cap factory designations where shared. For example, the Ames Portrait in SC350 has been found with both the 25 and 30 "huge factory number at back bottom" suggesting that they were at the same sheet location with both factory designations:

http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1412818391

I agree Er!ck.

As with the other Chance, the crop line is in the same corner as the Chance you posted.

Jobu 07-05-2015 03:54 PM

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This one isn't mine but I came across it when doing some research. Are there any other Red Hindu cards with crops known?

Luke 07-06-2015 01:31 AM

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Just want to post these here for posterity:

Luke 02-22-2016 04:11 PM

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Couple more crop marks to add to the puzzle:

Leon 02-25-2016 03:52 PM

Love all of the crop marks on the cards!!

KingFisk 06-08-2017 08:12 PM

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I got a Johnny Evers (blue sky) in the mail today and noticed what I think is a crop mark on the back in the upper left corner. Dumb question and possibly answered elsewhere but I found another thread indicating these marks should have been erased. What was process for erasure? I ask because the mark on my card looks to be the same red as the Sweet Cap red printing. Would have just been a matter of using an eraser to remove that section of ink? Would that otherwise affect the card's surface (I.e., flake off some of the card stock)?

steve B 06-10-2017 05:34 PM

Depending on the exact purpose, the marks could have been erased from the plate/stone. Since the stone is limestone, and the parts that are intended to print are on the stone with an oily substance, erasing is pretty easy. The press operator just "erases" it with a limestone stick.

Most of these marks were probably intended to be left on. It's likely they were intended as marks showing where the edges of the sheet should be trimmed off. Of course, in practice the sheets were cut face up, so the marks were useless.

Ones like on the Elberfeld above may have been intended to be erased. They're more like layout marks than indicators where to cut.
The ones that were commonly erased were the layout marks that were at the center of the design edges on the front that were there to make sure each color was laid out properly aligned.

Steve B

Pat R 07-09-2017 08:03 PM

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Here's another Demmitt with a large crop mark and the same flaw in the
top of the frame line as the one in post #12.
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KingFisk 07-09-2017 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by steve B (Post 1669764)
Depending on the exact purpose, the marks could have been erased from the plate/stone. Since the stone is limestone, and the parts that are intended to print are on the stone with an oily substance, erasing is pretty easy. The press operator just "erases" it with a limestone stick.

Most of these marks were probably intended to be left on. It's likely they were intended as marks showing where the edges of the sheet should be trimmed off. Of course, in practice the sheets were cut face up, so the marks were useless.

Ones like on the Elberfeld above may have been intended to be erased. They're more like layout marks than indicators where to cut.
The ones that were commonly erased were the layout marks that were at the center of the design edges on the front that were there to make sure each color was laid out properly aligned.

Steve B

I totally missed this response to my question last month. Thank you for the info!


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