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slidekellyslide 08-29-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1031589)
I am sure it had something to do with the witness who saw him running from the scene may have been an older guy and the story of him getting from one area to another area didn't seem to make sense. So they assumed he had just heard the noise of someone running from the scene but never actually saw him. That is just conjecture.

In this case it had something to do with Hollywood....I just need to keep reminding myself to not respond to Rob D. Posts before considering every angle. :D

tbob 08-29-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1031520)
Felons can vote as long as they are not on any type of parole or probation any longer. Of course they can't be on jury duty unless the felony was expunged or done away with (Governor pardon etc...) otherwise. At least that is what I believe are the cases.


Perhaps in Texas, but not Arkansas. Felons can also own handguns in Texas, but they are absolutely prohibited for owning or even possessing them in Arkansas. Not even an expungement will work in Arkansas but there has been some recent legislation designed to allow felons to possess handguns for hunting (thanks NRA, just we need felons touting semi-automatic rifles while hunting rabbits :mad:)

Leon 08-29-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tbob (Post 1031625)
Perhaps in Texas, but not Arkansas. Felons can also own handguns in Texas, but they are absolutely prohibited for owning or even possessing them in Arkansas. Not even an expungement will work in Arkansas but there has been some recent legislation designed to allow felons to possess handguns for hunting (thanks NRA, just we need felons touting semi-automatic rifles while hunting rabbits :mad:)

No, felons in TX can not own or possess hand guns (or any guns for that matter). It's a felony to do so. And yes, Felons can vote in Arkansas just as I stated they can in TX. Same rules in Arkansas as in Texas concerning voting.

Deertick 08-29-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1031636)
No, felons in TX can not own or possess hand guns (or any guns for that matter). It's a felony to do so. And yes, Felons can vote in Arkansas just as I stated they can in TX. Same rules in Arkansas as in Texas concerning voting.

Felons can't vote in FL. But they sure as hell can hold jobs as State Legislators!

(well, could be a chicken-egg thing)

Leon 08-29-2012 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Deertick (Post 1031694)
Felons can't vote in FL. But they sure as hell can hold jobs as State Legislators!

(well, could be a chicken-egg thing)

Sort of.....they can, with approval, but it's not automatic the way it used to be-

On Mar. 9, 2011 the Florida rules of Executive Clemency were toughened. Automatic restoration of civil rights and the ability to vote will no longer be granted for any offenses. All individuals convicted of any felony will now have to apply for executive clemency after a five year waiting period. Individuals who are convicted, or who have previously been convicted, of certain felonies such as murder, assault, child abuse, drug trafficking, arson, etc. are subject to a seven year waiting period and a clemency board hearing to determine whether or not the ability to vote will be restored.

Prior to the Mar. 9, 2011 rule change some individuals convicted of non-violent felonies were re-enfranchised automatically by the Clemency Board upon completion of their full sentence, including payment of fines and fees.

FrankWakefield 08-29-2012 08:40 PM

DDS....

A range of possibilities are out there for you if you bail on jury duty. From nothing happening, to jail. Now that you've posted here about it, "I forgot" will be pretty weak...

I saw a federal judge send marshals to get a lady, and after a short discussion, she went to jail for 30 days, he let her out after about 2 weeks. He was the first federal judge I ever saw on the bench. It was sobering.

At times I let jurors slide with it if their absence caused no problems. A few times I kept a juror around to attend the trial, even though they weren't on the panel. I recall doing that once when it was painfully obvious to everyone that the juror answered initial questions in a way to get stricken... I allowed the attorneys motion to strike, but explained to the panel member what I was doing and let them sit through the trial. That panel came back twice more to hear trials, that panel member gave forthright answers to the questions upon returning. I never jailed a panel member for not showing, but did send the sheriff out to find a few jurors over the years.

As a panel member, it is not your place to decide you'd not be a fair juror and you shouldn't sit for trial; it's ok to have an opinion about that, but it isn't your decision. The parties, lawyers, and judge decide that. I gotta figure when a patient sits in that dental chair it is the DDS who decides things, after entertaining the patient's opinions. A patient who wants a good tooth pulled probably won't talk a good dentist into doing that...

Personally, I think you should serve, or you should have gotten off of the panel at the beginning.

Unanimous verdict doesn't mean an 11-1 majority jams a decision down on someone... A jury isn't a committee.

rdixon1208 08-30-2012 05:42 AM

Silly
 
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Originally Posted by Griffins (Post 1031102)
I've got jury duty the week after next, and was researching it. The site says that in LA County at least you have to prove you didn't get the summons, it is presumed that you did if it was mailed to where you normally get your mail.
I suspect other areas follow the same rules.

That's pretty silly....even for California. How could you ever prove you didn't receive something? Especially if you didn't know it was coming in the first place.

ullmandds 08-30-2012 05:52 AM

frank...thanks for your well thought out response!!!

believe me...I would have loved to be a part of a jury...the comeraderie of it would be refreshing and exciting to me! I would probably end up being the juror who kept the rest of the jury in deliberations for days!!!!!

but...just sitting around...doing nothing was a waste of time...and sucked!!!!!

barrysloate 08-30-2012 06:14 AM

In the Brooklyn courts if you don't have your name called the first day you are relieved and sent home. If you get chosen for a jury panel but they reject you, you are finished and are sent home. They used to make you sit for two weeks but it's been streamlined considerably.


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