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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 982751)

Although I haven't commented until now, I have been keeping up with this thread. Dan, I asked the same question to Travis via PM. If PSA/DNA reimburses Donovan for the item, why would they give it back? It makes no sense. They own it at that point and you would think they wouldn't want it back on the market.

There have been other board members that have had to use PSA/DNAs buy back guarantee and I wonder if they got their item(s) back? I would love for one of them to chime in.

Did they reimburse him for the item or reimburse him for his authentication
fee(s)?
The item, legally, belongs to Donavon.
Why won't they learn,,,the cover up is always worse than the actual event.

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Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 982758)

Did they reimburse him for the item or reimburse him for his authentication
fee(s)?
The item, legally, belongs to Donavon.
Why won't they learn,,,the cover up is always worse than the actual event.

Richard,

To answer your question, they told me that they were reimbursing me for my submission fees, as well as adding $100 to cover all of the costs of shipping, etc.... I asked for nothing, only for them to get it right. This is what they proposed. There is no cover up & there is no conspiracy. Just a mistake they made & corrected. If you want the auto.... you are welcome to fly in & get it from me before it is destroyed, but I'm not putting it in the mail. I will PM you. It's not a conspiracy or that I feel you would try to sell it, but lost mail happens & I don't want to take that chance. I am really, really tired of the whole conspiracy theory thing here, like someone is trying to hide something. I came on this forum and posted results from PSA just like I said I would......good or bad. I'm just not sending a forgery in the mail to someone I don't know & never have met in person, because that's what they want me to do.

Donavon,

Richard has a long list of hobby credentials and many, many references.

Send it delivery confirmation, registered mail.

Believe me, it will get there.

Harry Winston sent the hope diamond through the regular mail this way, no lie. I think if the hope diamond made it through a slightly less valuable item liike yours can make it too. The odds of registered mail getting lost through the mail is slim and none, and slim just left town. I will pay for the cost.

Hope Diamond Mail Wrapper, Postmark: Nov. 8, 1958
Smithsonian’s National Postal Museum

When he donated the Hope Diamond to the Smithsonian Institution in 1958, jeweler Harry Winston sent the fabled gem by registered first-class mail. This package carried the diamond on its trip from New York City to Washington, D.C.

Of the $145.29 mailing price, only $2.44 was for postage. The balance was the insurance fee for $1 million. This object is one of 137 million artifacts, works of art and specimens in the Smithsonian’s collection. This object is not on display.

A package w all that postage on it, and stuff is a lightning rod for someone to steal/open.

you would think so, but it was the preferred way for at least some jewelers to send valuable items to their destination. From the Smithsonian site.

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Jeweler Harry Winston bought the diamond and donated it to the Smithsonian. And how did he send it? Winston simply placed the priceless diamond in a plain brown paper wrapper and sent it by registered first-class mail. He said, “It’s the safest way to mail gems. I’ve sent gems all over the world that way."

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Originally Posted by Donavon (Post 975475)

Travis,

I have been going through this on the website that has called it a "forgery". I purchased it from a person who had an estate of 30's & early 40's books & original Goudey cards. The Goudeys that were gradable have all been sent to PSA & none were counterfeit. I find it hard to believe that a "laser copy", as they deem it, would have indentation on the back of the paper. I am by no means an autograph expert. I can tell pixellations & lack of writing flow, but that's as far as I go. That is why the cut was sent to PSA/DNA......so the experts could authenticate or not authenticate it. As for as one or the other having to be fake, I don't necessarily agree with that either. I have two Ted Williams autos that I got in person in the 80's that are identical.

donavon,

can you show me the identical williams sigs that you promised me over a month ago?