Wow, what an idiot. Maybe he should turn on spell check for his computer?

The accusation on the PSA boards is that he's blackmailing sellers into giving him a discount after the sale is completed by complaining about the cards and threatening negative feedback. So... say he buys a card for $900, gets a $200 refund for whatever, sells for $850, boom quick $150 profit.

Tabe

Leon I'm no expert but I think Barry just hit on you. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oecSupsf4hE

LOL on the Bob Lemke comment on the Youtube page...somebody must be mad at Bob or he also is on the prowl....grrrr...

Cheers,

John

Thanks for the video!
 

Hi John!
Thanks for the youtube link. Nice to see our pal Leon on it.
Geeze...... poor Bob Lemke! I have seen those really bizarre sexual comments all over youtube about Bob & his family. After reading a particularly nast one, I asked "neerat" to remove the coment, but they are still up.

Back to the Leon video, who else was in it?
I wish I could see more of you Net 54 friends in pictures and video!

Thanks.......
Your Friend,
Bill Hedin

Ixnay John...I don't want the secret to leak out.

Leon is my kind of man candy Barry I'll scratch your eyes out stay away from my man! :D

Cheers,

John

I always knew you were a catcher John and not a pitcher.

Joey
 

Leon,

For this years National tshirt could we get SAM I am put on them:)

woops
 

I guess I was on the youtube deal. I forgot. I am a rock star now!!

Maybe its the T206 Young ghost video when it was up for sale.

Video

that's cool
 

thanks for sharing the video. I have never seen that.

http://luckeycards.com/pt206ghostmultioverprint2.jpg

John- sweet talk will get you no where :).


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Unbelievable!!! :mad:

If by "he" you mean Sam, then it looks like you're right. If you mean Joey, then there was never any proof that Joey and Sam were one in the same. Joey is from Washington State. Sam is from California.

They both went ballistic, acted the same and wouldn't give required info for this board's purposes when asked. Whether they were the exact same guy, which I am still 50-50 on, is of no consequence to me. The way they both acted WAS quite immature and I don't think they would have been positive contributors to our board. There is a reason we have had approximately $25 of total fraud (knock on wood) on our BST pages in over 7 yrs. Be careful over there, know your trading partner, ask for references....and that area is one of the safest on the internet to do business and trades. Caveat emptor as always. take care

Could not have said it better myself...the few interactions I've had with members of this board have been phenominal! I know most of you don't 'know' me, but I completely understand what Pete is saying here...

I had a near transaction with Joey Farino (italianz) via e-mail, but after a few back and forth e-mails, I soon realized this guy was insane and that little alarm in my gut began to go off. I didn't know of any other malfeasance until I read this thread.

The good thing is that, empirically, it doesn't seem as though he is intelligent enough to prolong this type of activity. He'll get his at some point.


Regarding the reliability of other people on this board, I couldn't agree more. Whenever I have a good correspondence with someone on eBay, or elsewhere, I forward this site to them as a great resource and as a great medium for future transactions. I think if we all made a conscious effort to advertise this site to other users who we have positive and pleasant transactions with on eBay or elsewhere, it could have a great impact on the amount of transactions on the board.

Joey is quite capable of disguising the state from which he's operating. As David's link showed, the fellow who bought a fake Jordan from Joey thought he was dealing with an elderly man in Colorado (even spoke with him on the phone), when in actuality the man was acting as a front for Joey, who was in California.

Joey lives in Federal Way, Washington and his eBay user id is italianz31. This I know to be a fact. Sam1952 lives in Claifornia and his eBay user id is jasonchicas. This I also know to be a fact. Are they friends or related in some way? Who knows. But there was never any proof that the two were one in the same (or linked together in any way for that matter).

Besides, Joey is not smart enough to digsuise anything. I busted his alt twice on the SGC boards. The first time took 57 minutes from his initial post:

http://www.sgccard.com/boards/ubbthr...page=1&fpart=1

The second time only took me only 27 minutes from his intital post:

http://www.sgccard.com/boards/ubbthr...page=1&fpart=1

Joey Farino is a lot of things, but I don't think he is a scammer. Anybody that has ever dealt with him on this board, the CU boards or the PSA boards was dealt with honestly and received exactly what they paid for. If anybody has any proof otherwise, please show me.

This is good for the hobby. One more Michael Jordan rookie card available to all.

Joey
 

I dont think its very HONEST when you tell someone your grandmother died in order to cancel a sale or you contact a seller and ask for a partial refund because the card doesnt measure up to your grading standards. Too make a long story short there is a reason Joey/joeyf/jboog/italianz31/mantlefan81/sam52 is no longer allowed on the Net54, PSA or SGC boards.

I concur 100%

There, I fixed it for you. How's that?

So he is honest to buy from and dishonest when selling to?

ok, I guess that is a little better

Joey
 

Still not right...I bought a few items from him. Actually paid the asking price for one item and about 2 hours after payment was sent he refunded the money saying it wasnt enough. He stated he needed more money because his grandmother had died and his girlfriend was pregnant. This was about 3 months before he told another board member about his grandmother dying...Which he could/would have more than one.

Dan,

Joey didn't scam you. He made a purchase from you and wanted to return it. You got your card back and he got his money back. Did he lie about the reason why he wanted to return it? Perhaps. Who really knows? But being a liar doesn't make him a scammer.

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Keith,

That is the first time I've heard about this. If that is true, then that makes Joey a douche bag in my book. However, it does not make him a scammer. You were out nothing.

You guys are grasping for straws here. I repeat, if someone can show me where Joey Farino scammed them out of money/cards, then I'll admit I was wrong. But if you can't, isn't it really time to drop it?

David- why the big deal? Who cares? The guy makes 0 difference in our lives and he isn't on this board. Regardless of anything else out all, the emails he sent me were enough to not want our members to have to put up with him. Admittedly I asked for id, he gave it and then I asked for more because of new revelations, but that doesn't mean the guy should go ballistic on me. He should have thanked me if anything for trying to keep this place as safe as possible. He shot himself in the foot with the way he acted, forgetting everything and anything else.

I agree 100%. Anyone that refunded him money because it didn't measure up to his standards either overgraded the card them selves to get more $ and it finally bit them or is just plain silly. I would take a negative before I refunded anything. It's not gonna hurt your reputation because he is a thief/liar.

Honestly, thank you Leon making this board as safe as possible. You personally stopped a transaction I nearly made and would have been burned on in the past (not by Joey). I'd just asoon not have any liars, double identity or any dishonest people on the board and you are the sheriff in town. Thank you Leon.

Leon,

I agree with you 100%. I have no problem with him being booted from the board. You made a reasonable request and if he didn't comply then he should pound sand.

I'm just not sure why this thread was revived three and a half months later just to beat a dead horse and drag his name through the mud? I repeat what I said earlier: Joey Farino is a lot of things (liar, idiot, moron, douche, alt, not a man of his word or whatever you want to call him), but that doesn't make him a scammer. He's had tens of thousands of dollars worth of transactions and as far as I know (and once again, somebody please correct me if I am wrong) nobody ever got taken for a dime.

I don't particularly like the guy, but on the other hand I don't like to see anybody falsely accused of things either. You're right, it makes 0 difference in our lives. That said, I'm just not sure why the thread was bumped just to continue to assassinate his character w/o any proof.

I do concur with the others in that I'm glad you make this a safe place for all of us. Thanks!

I wouldn't have revived the thread but it's a very open board so anyone can do that with old threads. I also don't know of Joey actually ripping anyone off. I didn't ever say that.

And lastly thanks for the kind words on efforts to keep this place as safe as possible. It's still caveat emptor and I do want to know of any crap that goes on on the BST.....fortunately I don't have to get involved even a few times a year. I stay away as much as possible. If anyone ever doesn't want to give a reference I would like to know, or if anyone needs to ask anything about someone, I am always here to try to help. best regards

While I am glad that Joey (and a few other folks) are not on these boards any more, I do agree with what David is saying.

[QUOTE=vintagetoppsguy;989781]Dan,

Joey didn't scam you. He made a purchase from you and wanted to return it. You got your card back and he got his money back. Did he lie about the reason why he wanted to return it? Perhaps. Who really knows? But being a liar doesn't make him a scammer.

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David, Joey bought something from me with no intention of paying the correct price. He made up a bogus story and asked for a discount to not return the card. Is that scamming? Maybe, maybe not. It may just be a strange way to negotiate by holding the item over the seller.

You are correct, he didn't scam me but that is because I wasn't stupid or desperate.

Dan

What about the fake Jordan? A few years ago I heard of a guy selling DVDs through other legitimate IDs. He put out an ad requesting people list items on ebay and when the buyers did not receive the items, the innocent seller became the bad guy.

Sure, he started getting his feet wet, but progression seemed to be predictable. He lost money on many items in a short time of flipping and can possibly rationalize his behavior (to himself). But just guessing, seems like a fine fellow who is receiving random criticism from multiple people who have dealt with him in the context of my best guess. Context is very important, as is the core of this board, including Sheriff Leon and his deputies.

Not a guess: Leon and Dan have been around, been there done that.

What fake Jordan? The Jordan on the left is supposedly the real Jordan and the one on the right is supposedly the fake. Do you know how to tell the difference between a real and a fake? I do. I'm not sure why you're calling it a fake. Newsflash: It is real! If you can't look and tell the difference, how can you call it a fake?

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...1at81809PM.pnghttp://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e237/xxogxx/003.jpg

I think the situation was a bit fishy, but I'm not quite sure it was a scam. Think about it for a minute. Why would a scammer mail out a real Jordan RC worth hundreds of dollars (even raw)? Why not a counterfeit one? Or even an empty slab? It makes no sense.

Did it ever occur to the lynch mob mentality that the two cards above are the same card and it was re-holdered at some point and that's why the flip looks different? I know, that's too logical and it's much easier and makes for much more drama to call it a fake and a scam. People that dfon't know how to spot a fake, shouldn't refer to the card as a fake. If you're not sure how to tell the difference, please ask and I'll be more than happy to tell you.

I truly have no idea as I simply break slabs open, but if/when PSA/TPG's reholder a card, not crossover a card, do they give it the same serial # or a new one?

Hey Davd,

I don't collect basketball cards and would not know the difference or care to know the difference. Thank you though. The original topic involving the card is what I was going by. I was ripped off recently, which may explain my lack of tollerance. When it comes to criminal activity, in general, of which there are no consequences and a great deal of it, I may jump to conclusions based on multiple accounts. Yes, it's all shady, and I hope the guy gets/got his act together. But clearly there WAS a problem. Your opinion is respected and was well presented.

Serial number should stay the same I believe. Know nothing about bar codes, supposed to look the same?

And which is the original holder? The good scan has what appears to be the more current font, while the one in the bad picture seems to have older font and spacing. These are questions about the holders, nothing more.

Jordan
 

You might be able to spot a fake card but obviously you can't spot a fake psa flip. The card in hand has a fake psa flip. The bar code is wrong and font on the flip is wrong. Current Scam is to take a nice looking card in a cracked slab or reproduced slab with a fake flip to appear as a much nicer card.

The card in the good scan appears to have some spots around the border that aren't on the card in the picture. Referring to spots on the card in the scan that aren't on the card in the picture and nothing more.

Joey
 

He's back on the psa board joeyf777.

Joey
 

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