Here’s another Pirate player we can add as far as photos go.

Always enjoy seeing what you have. Thanks for sharing your collection.

Jackie Hernandez?

Yes it’s Hernandez.

I'm glad this thread got revived. Still waiting to see the rumored Gaylord Perry...

I did find a picture of a Lee Richard pin of the White Sox. The photo is too small to post but it was one previously unknown at least on this thread.

have never seen a white sox player in this series--would love to see that pin regardless of the lo-res!

Here you go Tom. If you search Tom Seaver button or pin on goggle you can find that one too. I found this one searching Ernie Banks pin. You can see it better that way.
https://www.google.com/search?q=erni...WwpATWEQ0V-qCM

Here’s the Seaver
https://www.google.com/search?q=tom+...gTVhcFYm7-lYiM

Updated with Lee Richard

Add another one to the Cubs checklist, that's a 3" inch Randy Hundley pin in that scan. I believe there is a Ken Holtzman 3" pin, there was a negative that was on eBay a few years ago that was described by the seller as being used for a pin. There is also a mystery pin on this guys hat in Wrigley Field from a 1973 photo, it's the one to the left of the Popovich pin. Anyone have an idea who the player is? Possibly Milt Pappas? The others known are Ernie Banks, Glenn Beckert, Bill Hands, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, Jose Ortiz (need), Paul Popovich, Ron Santo, Billy Williams. The 3 1/2" versions that I know of are Ernie Banks (need), Glenn Beckert, Joe Pepitone, Ron Santo.

Updated.

I somehow missed this thread during its first eight years, but I discovered it about two weeks ago. After reading it, I decided I needed one of these beauties for my completely unfocused collection, so I dove into eBay to see what I could find. I really have no idea what they are worth. My search (I tried many keywords) turned up only two of them, an Ernie Banks for $250 and a Vida Blue for $30. Since Vida was one of my boyhood favorites, the choice was easy.

Ernie Banks and Don Kessinger are confirmed as Cubs.

Hi Chris,
Here is your boy, Vida Blue in 2019. I liked him as well, BTW
A friend of mine just did a private signing with him a couple of months ago.

There is a Milt Pappas.

Fantastic! There should be a Jim Hickman and a Johnny Callison, unless they didn’t want to participate that day.

mind blown. I have scoured Chicago-area card shows for several decades looking for these pins and have never seen a White Sox player. This mystery just keeps getting better!

i'd say that IS Milt Pappas on the side of that guy's hat . . .

OK....so I'm a little OCD. :p

Here's the updated updated, properly alphabetized and sub-alphabetized.

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard(?).

White Sox - Richard

Looks like 41 known, with Howard and Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

Don't know if the Banks price is out of line. Mays is rare and expensive, as well. Here's the three Mays:

A seller recently had the 3 1/2” version of the Ernie Banks up on eBay, I tried to snipe $300 but was outbid :mad:.

Wow ! :eek:

Something tells me a Doug Griffin brings a little less. ;)

There are two different versions of the 3.5 inch Billy Williams.

Yes, the second Williams pin is the type I am referring to (assuming it has the metal back rather than the cardboard easel back), thanks for confirming it exists.

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Kick yourself a little more. This guy just went for $411 on ebay.

I paid $500 for mine a couple of years ago. I was after this one too but couldn't pull the trigger for a duplicate. For what its worth, I believe this is only the 4th one of these I have ever seen. There is also a version that does not have the autograph. I have only seen one of those.

Also, FWIW, I think these can be narrowed done to 1969-72 based on the players included.

i passed on that clemente because of the back: it is stamped with something like "pat pending made in USA" and the pin bracket is different than any other i've seen. that makes it the only pin from this "series" with any kind of stamping on it. odd.

That Clemente is the glossy 3 1/2" version, it matches up perfectly with the three Cubs glossy 3 1/2" pins that I have, Beckert, Pepitone, and Santo. The one on the left is the Clemente, the one on the right is an Ernie Banks that I was outbid on.

Upon further review, all of my 3.5" glossy examples DO have that stamping. so that clemente fits right in with the other 3.5"s ...

The seller of the Clemente Pinback sold this Seaver last night for $103.50

Great looking Seaver!

. . . and the buyer of that Seaver was me. More than i wanted to spend, but a great self-serve Christmas gift!

Red Sox Pin
 

Hi Guys:

I have a Billy Conigliaro pin from this set. Open to offers PM me. Sorry for the bad photo

A new team and new player just popped up on eBay, a 3.5" glossy pin of Rich Allen with the Dodgers.

Awesome! He was only a Dodger in 1971, so is that THE year?

If anyone ever runs into any of the guys in this set, they should ask that guy if they remember anything about these photo shoots. Who, when, where?

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard(?).

White Sox - Richard

Looks like 42 known, with Howard and Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

The mystery just keeps getting bigger. One might think there is some connection to the Chicago area given the large number of Cubs and Brewers. There’s a pin of Jose Ortiz for goodness sakes! Talk about obscure. Yet the White Sox only have Lee Richard. Another obscure player. And the Red Sox are well represented. One Met and one Dodger now known and no Yankees. Very strange. Looking forward to seeing if more examples surface.

Lotsa Red Sox. too. :confused:

I’m sure one of you guys saw this, but there was a Cubs player button from this series that was pinned on a pennant I came across. There was another button too, but not from this series. It was on eBay last week I believe.

I saw it. I think it was Kessinger. Not positive, but I know it wasn’t one we haven’t seen before.

I think you’re right.

I also have a Mays w/o signature.

Rob, post it or it doesn’t exist.😂

Wish we had a montage of all the pins by team to go with our list. I really like looking at them. Beautiful little items.

Here’s the Cubs I have.

I obviously wish I had a better one with signature. Both are 3" matte finish.

Mike that’s a good start! Rob those are amazing. Thanks for sharing guys! I’ll post the Orioles group I have tomorrow.

89 bucks for Allen. I never even knew he was a D**ger. :eek:

The 1971 Billy Williams 3.5" glossy pin from the same seller sold for $130, I would have bid a lot more on it but I wanted to make sure that I won the 1970 MLBPA b&w pin of Johnny Callison from the same seller that unfortunately ended after the Williams pin and I had no idea how high the bidding would go on it. At least I finally got the Callison Cubs pin after several years of getting outbid on it and replaced my 1970 Randy Hundley MLBPA b&w pin that rusted out on me from that estate auction.

Someone got a wonderful early Christmas present on this $15 eBay Buy-It-Now :mad:. I don't know how many times over the years on eBay I have seen an uninformed seller lose big money on a way too low Buy-It-Now or if someone who knows what the item is really worth gives them a lowball offer and they take it. I admit that I have taken advantage of both when I have had the opportunity so I guess I can't complain.

Not sure if you guys have discussed this or not, but the mark on the back of this pin indicates that it was made by ASCO (who also made pennants, and is discussed in the pennant blog below).

https://pennantfever.weebly.com

Who is that? Jose Ortiz?

Yes, worth 99 cents to most collectors but worth way more than that to a few.

That ASCO clue is the first progress we've had towards tracking down the origins. But, that mark only appears on the large, glossy versions--there are no markings at all on the smaller pins. Makes me think the small ones were released in 1971 (not by ASCO) and the larger pins reproduced and released by ASCO later . . .

I figured that there was more than likely a 1971 Johnny Callison Cubs pin in this set, and while searching vintage Cubs pins on Google I stumbled upon Heritage Auctions Past Sales and found a couple of interesting scans. I also found a previously unknown (to me anyway) Randy Hundley 1973 black box pin, but that belongs in the other pins thread.

Great find, Cliff. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who wastes time with memorabilia searches on Google. What did that huge lot go for?

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Callison, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard(?).

White Sox - Richard

Looks like 43 known, with Howard and Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

Each scan was a separate lot, both lots were won back in April 2012 on Heritage, the cooler lot with this Callison pin went for $227 with BP and the other lot went for $179 with BP. Whenever I have looked at past sales of cool items from auction houses before I would often be shocked at how little they went for, I always believed they would have gone much higher if they were on eBay because there would be many more interested eyes on them. I'm sure that I have missed out on many rare underpriced items that I need over the years from these auction houses because I had no idea they were available and I am not signed up with any auction houses.

Gotta think there was “break value” in both those lots.

While searching WorthPoint for possible star and semi star pins for this set that haven't been documented yet the last thing I expected to find were three new White Sox players, Tommy John, Bill Melton, and Rick Reichardt. I have a feeling there are more White Sox players to be found.

At least this one isn't a White Sox player, here's a scan of Frank Howard from WorthPoint to confirm that it exists.

Found another Sox player but this one is Red, Sonny Siebert.

See post #229
 

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=166056&page=6

There are references to these pins starting form post 125 in the linked thread. I believe there are 2 different Red Sox issues - 1 that is part of the issue being discussed ( I owned a Yaz) and one that look similar, but was different and is a bit more plentiful - partially explaining why people tend to see more Red Sox that they believe are part of this issue. The image quality is not as good on the alternative Red Sox one.

Not only has this thread inspired me to start collecting pinbacks and buttons, but is has me interested in two other sets from the 1970s, including one that continued on into the 1980s.

I'm surprised by how little information I can find online about any of these sets. Although both seem to be far more common than the c. 1971 set discussed in this thread, distribution appears uneven. The Clemente button posted below comes from an early 1970s set, while Monte Irvin seems to be from 1978. The Oscar Gamble button and a couple hundred others likely come from about 1978 to 1981. There are others that clearly come from later than 1981, but the photos aren't nearly as good.

By the way, the early 1970s set, with the black nameplates, includes some of the same Cubs images as the 1971 set.

Can anybody tell more about these, or point me toward a link for more information? Thanks, Chris

Just about burned out looking for these on WorthPoint but did find another Brewer, Phil Roof.

A member here, DaClyde, has an excellent checklist of the 1978-198? numbered baseball pins including the Hall Of Fame set, I have contributed a few to it as I find them on the internet. https://clydes-stalecards.blogspot.c...rts-photo.html

You're right, they also reused the images on the Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, and Billy Williams pins. I wouldn't be surprised if they also did it with at least Glenn Beckert. Note that both Jenkins and Kessinger have their names misspelled.

You are "on it," Cliff! Latest list looks like:

A's - Blue

Brewers - Bristol, Harper, Hogan, Joss, Koslo, Lockwood, May, Pattin, Roof, Saunders, Walton.

Cubs - Banks, Beckert, Callison, Hands, Hundley, Jenkins, Kessinger, Ortiz, Pappas, Pepitone, Popovich, Santo, Williams.

Dodgers - Allen

Giants - Mays (incl. Friars Club variations), Perry(?).

Mets - Seaver.

Orioles - Palmer, Powell, B. Robinson, F. Robinson.

Pirates - Clemente (Hernandez and Oceak photo proofs seen, but not actual pins).

Reds - (Bench and Rose photo proofs seen, but not actual pins)

Red Sox - Aparicio, B. Conigliaro, Culp, Griffin, Josephson, Kennedy, Petrocelli, Scott, Siebert, Yaz.

Senators - McClain, Howard.

White Sox - John, Melton, Reichardt, Richard

Looks like 50 known, with Perry rumored. Size, pose, finish and/or whether they have the facsimile autograph can vary.

But there were two different poses of Kessinger.

Yes, there were two different pins of a handful of Cubs, Jose Cardenal, Burt Hooton, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger, Rick Monday, and Ron Santo. My theory is that one of each are 1973 issues and the other half are 1974 issues. I believe the misspelled Hooton, misspelled Kessinger, misspelled Jenkins (Cubs), Santo (Cubs), closeup Cardenal, and closeup Monday are 1973 issues, and the correct Hooton, correct Kessinger, correct Jenkins (Rangers), Santo (White Sox), wide shot Cardenal, and wide shot Monday are 1974 issues.

Yes, but they used the same photo for the Cardenal, Hooten, Monday pins in the other issues, but the Kessinger is an entirely different pose. The Jenkins and Santo changed teams so they had to use different photos.

A checklist of the HOF pins. I collect only Giants. Mays and Irvin can be found most everyday on ebay. Marichal is tough, Mize tougher and I'm still looking for a Wilhelm.

3” HOF Pins from Cooperstown

1 Babe Ruth
2 Lou Gehrig
3 Jackie Robinson
4 Hank Greenberg
5 Lou Boudreau
6 Al Kaline
7 Stan Musial
8 Yogi Berra
9 Ernie Banks
10 Ed Mathews
11 Whitey Ford
12 Bob Feller
13 Monte Irvin
14 Roy Campanella
15 Roberto Clemente
16 Bob Lemon
17 Sandy Koufax
18 Willie Mays
19 Bob Gibson
20 Duke Snider
21 Robin Roberts
22 Joe DiMaggio
23 Ted Williams
24 Mickey Mantle
25 Brooks Robinson
26 Frank Robinson
27 Hank Aaron
28 Juan Marichal
29 George Kell
30 Walter Alston
31 Jack Brickhouse
32 Harmon Killebrew
33 Pee Wee Reese
34 Luis Aparicio
35 Don Drysdale
36 ???????
37 Enos Slaughter
38 Johnny Mize
39 Hoyt Wilhelm
40 Lou Brock

Just an excuse to get this thread back on the first page, but here is a scan of what I believe is the only one of the fifty confirmed 1971 pins to not have been shown yet on the two pin threads, Marty Pattin, along with the other known Brewers.

I noticed that the 1971 Tommy Harper doesn’t have a facsimile signature, all of the other pins do, including versions of the Clemente and the Mays. I wonder if whoever took the photos required the players to sign their names on a sheet of paper so that they can then use the signature on the pins, like Topps did on their sets that had the signatures.

Speaking for the Clemente
 

It exists with and without a signature. I believe same for the Mays, but I am not positive.

Last page; post #128.

Oriole Pins
 

Posted for Clint (ksfarmboy)

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Are there other “black box” pins with the team name missing?

The only ones I ran across searching for them on the web were a handful of Fred Lynn and Jim Rice pins with some B&W and at least one of both of them on the pin together, none of them had BOSTON or RED SOX printed on them so I decided not to add them to the checklist. They would have to be 1975 at the earliest.