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I see this as 100% positive thing. With Osama being dumped at sea, we don't have to worry about his gravesite becoming a site for religious pilgrims, etc. All the easier to forget him.

Jeff,

With all due respect, I must take serious issue with your characterizing Bin Laden and his ilk as animals. That is an undue insult to my dog, man's' best friend and a noble creature.

Ken

There is nothing that the United States of America can do that will avoid riling up radical muslims who believe that America is the devil and that we all deserve to die. Absolutely nothing.

But the manner in which we conduct ourselves in the aftermath of events like killing Bin Laden will help avoid riling up MODERATE and PEACEFUL muslims. I just do not see any reason to help the bad guys recruit new members to their terrorist ranks.

Ditto.

I agree. Obama did send the raid, but the Seals inside did all of the dirty work and put their lives on the line to kill Osama. About the burial, I think that it was to keep the Muslim people from getting upset. I agree with Curt on this one. We should not have treated this man like a true Muslim, when his actions showed otherwise. Home of the Brave and Land of the Free, God Bless America

Well said Jeff.

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I flew out of Philadelphia this morning and was worried about new stringent procedures to avert retaliation. I was right to be concerned; the first class and priority flyers were not allowed a VIP line - they had to go in with the rest of us. No shit.

When did "OSAMA" Bin Lan becaome "USAMA" Bin Laden? All the media is calling him Usama with a "U" and for the last 10 years ++ I always saw it written with an "O". Is it because it looks too much like our President name when written with the O? Serious question, I am just curious why the change in spelling suddenly?

And what an ill-informed one it is.

Peace. Let's not let dislike of Obama or Bush splinter us on the issue of giving "credit" for this. Bush put the machinery in motion, Obama continued the hunt and gave the order that finished it. In the interim, our intelligence people figured it out. Then our special forces did what they were trained to do and did it perfectly. Due to the efforts of lots of people, he's now dead. That fact alone means there is more than enough credit for all who were involved to share in. My $.02.

The only outfit I've seen that uses the "U" is Fox News...they've used it for years which makes it even more ridiculous that they made the "Obama is dead" mistake on their crawl last night.

A bad man who should have been neutralized 15 years ago was finally killed. I feel no joy, no justice. His fate was sealed long ago.

This is one of the most bizarre things about this,,,,I would think one of the first things they would do is release photo's of the dead bin Laden. But they didn't, and when the homeland security guy was fielding questions in the news/press conference, and was asked about providing photo's,,the guy (forgot his name, Bennen?) turned sort of red in the face and stammered out a bunch of nonsense.

When we killed Sadaam's son Uday, they provided photo's of his dead body so everyone could see it was him and it was true. Same with when they captured Sadaam. They even used to do it with the old gangsters who were wanted dead or alive.

But here, they quickly dump his body in the ocean and don't release pictures? Am I the only one who finds this as odd?

agreed:D

No you are not. Thats some pretty messed up sh1t!!:eek:

I still really believe we will see photos and or video, of Bin Laden's dead body, in the coming days/weeks though.

As soon as the Seals killed him, they took a photograph which was uploaded and sent to a lab for identification (same as we do around here). The photo of his dead corpse is out there and will probably be made public soon.

Whether you're talking T206 baseball cards or dead terrorists, it's just common sense to keep a photographic record to provide as proof down the line if requested (especially when you're making a claim that you can safely assume will be challenged). I bet in the case of this dead terrorist, the United States did just that.

I agree. Plus any Obama-haters should take solace in the fact that he has in essence become W Jr. in his prosecution of the existing wars, his maintaining of Gitmo, his continued use of renditions, his continued use of warrantless wiretapping, his continued use of military tribunals, etc. And he's actually gone further than Bush with his increased use of predator drone strikes in Pakistan and his start of a third war in Libya. If not for Obama breaking all of his promises NOT to continue all of these, UBL may never have been found. So the right wingers should go easy on Obama today.

It’s a rather amazing military maneuver where they could storm a small fortress, apprehend the world’s most wanted man and escape with no causalities. Great job Navy SEALS!

"The team’s photos of bin Laden are gruesome, complicating officials’ deliberations about whether to release them.

Officials also have images of bin Laden in a white shroud before his burial at sea."

agreed.

I think it's very, very odd. I think they're weighing the pros and cons with the cons being that its likely inflamatory and martyrizing. It sure leave a lot open to conspiracies though. My biggest reason for belief is in the comments coming from Al-Q people and Al Jazeera.

And +1 (2) for Mr. Novaks comment above. Ive seen a lot of people comment on who gets "credit" all over the place (moreso than politicians, so that should say something!). It seems nonsensical to me. Obviously, the soldiers on the scene and supporting staffs deserve the lions share of credit. They risked their lives, they performed the task at hand. Obama deserves some share of credit for making it the CIAs top priority and for having it happen on his watch. Bush deserves credit too for laying the foundation that was continued and led to certain information that was critical in the process. There's just no way something like this gets done without a huge amount of people contributing their parts to the effort. Its silly to think otherwise.

Irrelevant to other issues, it was impressive execution. To start, they'd never been in the compound before. I think they entire thing took 40 minutes.

I don't know what are the relevant cultural sentiments amongst Muslims, but I wonder if the Middle Eastern people realize that using one's wife as a human shield is about as shameul and cowardly an act as one can imagine of in the West. I wonder if they know how that detail comes across in the West.

Nah no photos needed we can simply take ones word for it, maybe a more scientific approach to prove Osama is dead would be too start a survey thread.:)

Cheers,

John

Exactly on target. All of this is an indication that Obama is very smart and has figured out how the world really works.

"What now? Let me tell you what now. I'm gonna call a couple of hard, pipe-hittin' n*****s to go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch! You hear me talking, hillbilly boy? I ain't through with you by a damn sight. I'm gonna get medieval on your a$$!"

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Oh sorry...I guess this should have technically gone in the "favorite movie line" Thread! ;)

First he figured out how to get elected and then how the world really works. He's smart alright.

That's funny Jeff. I was thinking the same thing. :D

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