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DICKTOWLE 05-16-2011 10:28 AM

T 206 Scrapbook
 
To all, this weekend I received a email and phone call fron the new owner who spent 10k on the scrapbook, he talked about removing the cards and also leaving them in the book. He also sent me many scans to look at- there in the middle of the album, was the JOE JACKSON ROOKIE CARD. After looking at many of the cards, most are the real deal, including the cut cards. the owner has a good group of cards and now- shoeless joe--I may or may not remove the cards, but what a fine gentleman to talk to, ALSO A GOOD PURCHASE.

If I end up removing the cards I am sure there will be cards for sale- I believe JJ cards will remain with his family. thank you Dick towle " GONE WITH THE STAIN"

npa589 05-16-2011 12:32 PM

Maybe I'm just stupid, but why would you be removing the cards? Were you just quoting him?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DICKTOWLE (Post 894433)
To all, this weekend I received a email and phone call fron the new owner who spent 10k on the scrapbook, he talked about removing the cards and also leaving them in the book. He also sent me many scans to look at- there in the middle of the album, was the JOE JACKSON ROOKIE CARD. After looking at many of the cards, most are the real deal, including the cut cards. the owner has a good group of cards and now- shoeless joe--I may or may not remove the cards, but what a fine gentleman to talk to, ALSO A GOOD PURCHASE.

If I end up removing the cards I am sure there will be cards for sale- I believe JJ cards will remain with his family. thank you Dick towle " GONE WITH THE STAIN"


DICKTOWLE 05-16-2011 12:37 PM

t 206 SCRAPBOOK WITH JACKSON ROOKIE WOW
 
That is correct joe jackson rookie was in the scrapbook

T206Collector 05-16-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by npa589 (Post 894457)
Maybe I'm just stupid, but why would you be removing the cards? Were you just quoting him?

Dick Towle can remove cards from scrapbooks, extra paper from cards, some ink issues, etc. There has been a significant amount of discussion about the morality and efficacy of his work on this board. Whatever his technique, PSA and SGC will grade cards that have been treated by Mr. Towle. I once owned an SGC 80 T206 Donlin Batting that had been removed from a scrapbook by Mr. Towle. It was immaculate.

shaunsteig 05-16-2011 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hunterdutchess (Post 892084)
So much for needing good feedback to sell a high ticket item.

Here is the buyer: annawoogie (537)

Someone want to let them know that some of the cards might be bogus?

I thought Ebay hides the bidder names and only displays a few letters (eg s***g)?

DICKTOWLE 05-16-2011 12:42 PM

T 206 scrapbook with joe jackson rookie
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by npa589 (Post 894457)
maybe i'm just stupid, but why would you be removing the cards? Were you just quoting him?

the fine gentleman called me about the finer details of my company- all these cards would look better out of any book, now one can read the history on the back. He may decide to keep them in the book, time will tell. Thank you sir.

npa589 05-16-2011 12:46 PM

Ok. Clear! As you can see, I joined FEB 2011, that was 1 month after starting this hobby. I'm a new pup.

So, Towle is a card-removing genius - and the buyer knows him as a contact and has requested his services.

Thank you for the info!


When I get home, I might post a scan I have of an "A" graded Tinker T206. I need some opinions on the accuracy of the grade. It's either "A" or an 8.


Quote:

Originally Posted by T206Collector (Post 894461)
Dick Towle can remove cards from scrapbooks, extra paper from cards, some ink issues, etc. There has been a significant amount of discussion about the morality and efficacy of his work on this board. Whatever his technique, PSA and SGC will grade cards that have been treated by Mr. Towle. I once owned an SGC 80 T206 Donlin Batting that had been removed from a scrapbook by Mr. Towle. It was immaculate.


T206Collector 05-16-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npa589 (Post 894465)
When I get home, I might post a scan I have of an "A" graded Tinker T206. I need some opinions on the accuracy of the grade. It's either "A" or an 8.

I would certainly encourage you to do that if you can. The amount of knowledge on this board will go a long way to helping you through such matters.

And a belated welcome to the board!

novakjr 05-16-2011 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npa589 (Post 894465)
When I get home, I might post a scan I have of an "A" graded Tinker T206. I need some opinions on the accuracy of the grade. It's either "A" or an 8.

Odds are, if it was given an "A", it's probably an "A". But than again, the card may have just caught someone on a bad day, and catching someone on a good day may result in an 8. Bad day and Good day, are somewhat subjective in that sentence, based on which grade is more appropriate or preferred. Altering can be missed from time to time, but generally will not just be assigned without some sort of evidence to it... Basically, and A is usually an A. And an 8 may sometimes only be an A. It rarely goes the other way, without someone making a big mistake.

Tsaiko 05-16-2011 01:14 PM

Well Mr. Towle, if you're right, and I totally bow out to you when it comes to identifying cards, that would mean I was wrong :eek:

Well, there's a first time for everything, I suppose :D Not afraid to own up to it :(

Still, I would feel more comfortable with your analysis if you actually had the chance to see the collection in person.

One of the reasons I deemed this to be a fake was because I had asked the seller for at least one scan, but was ignored. Since you have some scans, you can see much better than the bidders.

When you say most are the real deal, it makes me wonder what you think aren't the real deal. Anyway a good score for the new owner and I'm sure he's in good hands as you will make his options known to him without bias.

Would he be willing to remove one card and send it in for grading?

After all, the backs can be just as interesting as the fronts with these collections.

T

sbfinley 05-16-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsaiko (Post 894474)
I had asked the seller for at least one scan, but was ignored.

The seller ignored many emails from several members of this board. I'm not entirely convinced the book is on the up and up, but according to my wife I am wrong approximately 63-75 times a day so take my opinions with a grain of salt.

npa589 05-16-2011 02:15 PM

link to the thread where i just posted scan
 
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...481#post894481
Quote:

Originally Posted by T206Collector (Post 894469)
I would certainly encourage you to do that if you can. The amount of knowledge on this board will go a long way to helping you through such matters.

And a belated welcome to the board!


teetwoohsix 05-16-2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DICKTOWLE (Post 894433)
To all, this weekend I received a email and phone call fron the new owner who spent 10k on the scrapbook, he talked about removing the cards and also leaving them in the book. He also sent me many scans to look at- there in the middle of the album, was the JOE JACKSON ROOKIE CARD. After looking at many of the cards, most are the real deal, including the cut cards. the owner has a good group of cards and now- shoeless joe--I may or may not remove the cards, but what a fine gentleman to talk to, ALSO A GOOD PURCHASE.

If I end up removing the cards I am sure there will be cards for sale- I believe JJ cards will remain with his family. thank you Dick towle " GONE WITH THE STAIN"

When I first read this post earlier today, I had to go back to look through all of the pictures from the ebay auction, because I was sure I didn't remember seeing the JJ card.......then, I thought, maybe he (Dick) is refering to the scrapbook that was in REA because I knew that had the JJ in it, but the final price was a lot more than 10K,,,so- a belated wow. Hopefully for the winner everything turns out ok.

Exhibitman 05-17-2011 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sbfinley (Post 894479)
according to my wife I am wrong approximately 63-75 times a day

Your wife and mine must have attended the same marriage classes.


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