We can and we will, perhaps I should have said we have spent...but if I use we then there are two of us and the total doubles right?

Rob are you saying... "Never go full Bruce...you never go full Bruce."

LMAO, America's New Toughest Wantlist.

It was a tough call, you have to leave your family behind to focus on the the Toughest Wantlist not easy. Also the intiation ceremony is rough I met the Bruces in the office but after hours of explination and learning the lost arts of the list I'm now almost ready to use "we"...almost.

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Cheers,

John

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I can't say what any other lot cost but the E90-1 lot of 32 was 2385 delivered..(still on it's way but I know it will be here soon)

I'll share...
 

Call me crazy, but I paid over $35/card for the lot of T206s I bought from Steve.

Amended - this lot was all Piedmont, crease-free, 89% commons, no variations

I don't think that's crazy- did you get the lot with the red Cobb and the Young? That's the one that had me drooling.......

I paid $4359 delivered for T206x135.

I consider that top dollar but condition is better than you would get in a lot of this size at an auction house. All would grade in the 3-4 range. Maybe a couple higher and a couple lower.

Matty; no cobb/young
 

Mine had a Matty, but no cobb or young.

Thanks-still a nice score......now that I see some of the prices, I'm glad I didn't come in with my $1,000.00 offer :o

Sincerely, Clayton

Removed.

Really
 

Here we go again...

Steve, thanks for the lots !! Great stuff and the best is yet to come...

I thought we were all about full name disclosure if you are posting and taking a stand in a discussion that has become a little warm over the past few days.

Second, I will compare it to buying a car because if there were no rules stated in the beginning, my comparison is that you never offer your top price right out of the gate. There is usually a negotiation back and forth and an agreed upon price reached when both sides communicate.

name disclosure
 

If we are going to have spirited debates then full names should be out there....It's only fair I think...

edited

If you would like my name please PM me.

I have removed the post.

If Steve wants to maximize the $$, then yes he should go back and counter all 20 offers. He is getting paid to handle this sale. Even if you think that is too much to ask for 15%, then why can't he update the original post with something like, "Top Bid - $2000 - Will end tonight".

When I made my initial inquiry, I didn't hear back for a while. I assumed he was busy with other things and I would eventually hear back. But no word and then sold 4.5 hours later. Didn't get a chance to bid at all actually.

AGAIN, I thought if people were getting in on this debate we needed full name disclosure. Easy to take a stand in a spirited debate and hide.

You are correct on this issue Phil.

Dave and anyone else that wants to debate this- you need to have your full name out here or edit out your comments. It's only fair.

Maximum $$
 

Based on the ending numbers of the Huggins and Scott auction, Steve is getting great money. Do these debates mean that the auction houses should be auctioning these off individually to maximize the money for their consigners ?? Maybe so... Are we not just splitting hairs now... This has been interesting though listening to the different train of thoughts. Fun stuff, certainly not the thing that should be irritating people to this degree though. Life is way too short !!

I thought the full name deal was meant for those who aren't known? I know Leon is familiar with Dan and myself....but like Dan I've removed my last comment and won't post on this thread again.

And Phil - all my info other than my telephone number is on the members page (edited to say some of it is out of date...)

Bottom line is that you used the wrong tactic with this particular situation. If you wanted the lot badly, you should not have come in with a low offer. Even if that's your normal practice, in this case it didn't work, so it should make you rethink your approach.

If I want something badly, I won't throw out a low offer. It may be a situation where I put my best offer out there and then they come back with a higher number and I might come up a little or I might just say, "that was my best offer". Then the ball is still in their court.

My only point is that there isn't a "one size fits all" method of negotiating. You have to be willing to change tactics, and read the situation to see how to play it. It all depends on how bad you want the item and how many other people are out to get it.

If a buyer put an offer in that is waaay below 10 other offers that have come in, common sense would say that the buyer wouldn't come up 400% to meet the other offers. Maybe that's not true in your case, but that's common sense. You offer $1000, the highest bid is $4000. Should the seller think that you're going to come up to $4100? I don't think so.

not anymore
 

Hi Dave
That is not the case. Here is a brief excerpt from the revised rules which have been in place for several months. I am seriously considering changing them to what you are saying though, and that way I can give out a name to anyone that is in the debate or situation, but not to the general public who are viewing the board. Quite honestly it's too time consuming to do it the way it's being done. That being said here are the rules as they are today (again, they are posted on the site too):




"Anonymous, where this board is concerned, implies that you are not known to the moderator or anyone else. That is not permitted on Net54baseball. However, you may remain private on the board; otherwise, as long as your post is not argumentative, controversial, confrontational, accusatorial etc.…For example you can discuss attributes of cards, sets or memorabilia and stay private. You can not say someone is an imbecile, hard to deal with, gave poor service etc…and remain private on the board. In addition to that if your opinion is that you dislike someone, hate them, can’t stand or don’t like anything about them, and you want to tell the world about it on Net54baseball, then your full name will need to be in your post. The moderator may put the posters name on the board or delete their posts, at his sole discretion, when this rule is not adhered to. Heated debates will require first and last names to be known, and made public, on the board. Contact information will be given out for legal reasons or under extraordinary circumstances at the discretion of the moderator."

i didn't think darren's or dave's replies were that bad. is it now the case where if you're simply addressing or replying to someone else's post then you must have your full name out there?

I dunno
 

I dunno, what do you think? If someone says you are an (pick any bad thing) and then someone else agrees. Would you want to know who is agreeing with them?

And if you say, well yeah, but those weren't that "bad", who is to say they aren't that bad...and make that decision in every thread? You know what I mean?

"If someone says you are an (pick any bad thing)"

Leon, I don't think you can use an "an" here.

You can't assume the bad thing will begin with a vowel.

Rob

in this case dave/darren was saying stop using the rea analogy and being so stuck on steve getting 15%...worst thing that might've been said was lowballing, which was true.

It also sounds like the folks that are upset here are the unlucky ones, without any cards to show from the sale. If you want to buy some of these cards, pay attention to the posts, and throw your money on the table. Sounds pretty simple to me.

If these are sold in 100 card lots from a stack of 3000 and he gets 20 emails about each, that's 600 deals to try and work out, it ain't gonna happen. One just has to take the top two or three folks and give them a chance. Granted there is some money being left on the table, but the owner seems to be happy with the progress Steve is making and I seriously doubt anyone complaining here cares about how big the return is for the owner of the cards. Folks are just angry they have't been able to land some for themselves.

There have been many items on the BST I would have loved to have bought over the years had I seen in time or tossed more money in my offer, that's just the way it goes.

Been on the road for a while, so doing some catching up this weekend. Looks like a bunch of nice cards here,

Bob O'Brien

I'm glad I was the only one who didn't understand Steve's rules from the beginning. Obviously now, everyone understands how he is selling this collection. My biggest complaint is around how it was handled from the beginning, in the first few posts.

His first post states: "Ask Questions"

One of his first offerings (the one I was interested in), stated: "Make An Offer"

Nowhere did it say "Make Your Best Offer" which so many people have come on here and told me that I was missing the boat because I didn't make my best offer right off the bat.

I was simply following Steve's input early on....."Ask Questions" and "Make An Offer".....I think those requests imply that you will/should hear back from the seller before the lot sells.

I love how many people will read part of the entire thread and then feel compelled to throw in their 2 cents (usually anonomous).

I read the whole thread. You're beating a dead horse. Let it go, man. My two cents.

I agree with you, David.

Phil you made a low ball offer and Steve went in a different direction. Your assumptions about the sale were wrong. Just let it go; life's too short

"It also sounds like the folks that are upset here are the unlucky ones, without any cards to show from the sale."

Simply not true. If you read what was said by both Greg and I is that we were never even given a chance to bid on a lot that we may have even had interest in. In fact of all the lots Steve’s listed I’ve had 100% no interest in any of them except one, and that lot was up and gone in a matter of hours.

It was at that time in this thread that Steve started, in which Steve fly’s a big part of the sales pitch as proceeds needed by family for woman’s assisted living so she can remain in home for her final years. Having been there with grandparents and folks that’s a pretty big nut.

So I thought I would post a few (wasn't alone) points that would let Steve know that perhaps his model was leaving some cash behind from folks who aren’t glued to the BST 24hrs a day. These folks are also real money spenders as well not missing folks who are going to offer $20 more on a lot.

I then also went as far as to recommend or say is the BST really the best avenue for a collections of this size. That’s when all hell broke loose…how dare somebody offer an opinion on a chat board…LOL.

Once good thing that has come of the thread is that we were able to pull out of Steve that many of the lots I assume better material was sold offline never to be shown here. Even though it was alluded that all goods for sale would be coming here and to be patient. So perhaps I dont need to stay glued to the BST afterall.

In the end no big deal not losing sleep over it, as Greg said no shortage of cards and material out there leaves more money for REA and others.

But is it really so farfetched to think that if some lots aren’t even being shown via your selected venue to some folks who spend really strong coin on cards that perhaps some cash is being left behind?

In the end I don’t care if Steve becomes a millionaire over this or goes bankrupt, if it’s a business deal that’s on him not my responsibility.

Where I think many of us Phil included have put in concern on prices realized was the fact that we were all made aware/sold this sale and it’s proceeds supposedly has impact far beyond Steve’s personal wallet. It’s to help a woman who according to Steve without her these cards would be long gone.

So if anybody is guilty of anything it was actually taking the touching story that was sold to the very community that he's making his 15% from, and managing to care enough to point out to Steve perhaps missing cash for the deals ths incudes himself.

Cheers,

John

A comment about offers
 

Having a sideways relation to this thread but nothing to do with any of Steve's lots.

I have approximately 2,000 cards at this point on a site called CheckOutMyCards.Com (I have sent them over 2400 and have sold about 17 percent of what I posted --- almost all modern "crap" in about a one year period. And yes there is a charge to process the cards and also to keep the cards there. However, I have to do no shipping other than getting the cards to them or have to deal with them any more from this point forward.

There is a function on that site called make offer --- and I receive offers frequently but not every day. The other day, after opening day -- I received an offer for 1/2 my asking price for a Rookie Year Heritage Chrome of John Mayberry Jr. He played a role in the Phillies opening day come-from-behind victory.

If the offer was close to what I was asking, which was lo Beckett, I might have even said fine --- however, I felt the offer was a lowball offer and I actually raised my price in reaction to that offer. The point is, when you send a card to that site, the offer to sell is out there and available.

Sideways relation, no one truly knows going in what is wanted --- so if you make a good first offer, and come in with your high hard one, then you have a better shot than an original offer and then hope for a counter,.,,, This is what I'm referring to in my example. If that person had made an offer of 25-50 cents less than my offer, I probably would have said -- fine. But coming in at 1/2 price -- I don't want to get into games on bids.


Steve has done great with those cards, if I had a collection like that to sell, I'd give them to him in the future :)

Rich

Id just like to say that steve treated me great with my purchase and I hope to purchase more in the future.