There are some people who are very good at making money in the stock markets.And I'm sure there are people who are very good at making money selling cards also.But just like in the stock markets,you are always aware of the risks-you can lose just as fast as you can win.

As is always discussed on this board,you can't just go off of pop reports for an accurate number of what is out there.How many Gem Mint 10 Rose rookie cards are out there sitting in collections that are not graded?Who knows,but I bet there are a few...........and if they were to be graded,what would that do to the prices?Your 1/1 is now a 1/6,1/7,etc.

And,it is amazing to me how the price of the 96 Mint Rose rookie and the 98 Gem Rose rookie have this $10,000.00 gap in between..............I honestly do not get it.

Clayton

I don't mean to derail this thread or throw it off on a tangent, but I've always
thought BMW had too much contrast and color saturation in their scans. The
comparison quoted above ^^^ shows how a BMW scan can be misleading to a
potential buyer. Look at how much more the color pops on the BMW SGC 96.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic.... ;)

Large price gap between the SGC 96 Rose's on ebay. One is 20,000 OBO, the other one has a BIN of 7495.

CW,

The contrast on the SGC 96 Rose on my website is about the same as the one sold by REA as well as the SGC 98 on eBay. I'm not seeing what you are. Please explain to me how I'm being misleading. Thank you.

geez.... just scan it !!
 

why can't dealers just scan the card and be done. why do they have to adjust the contrast and color saturation. That side by side comparison is pretty obvious to me. If it's not misleading to adjust a scan of a card then what do you call it ? Picture modification.....this reminds me of Heritage auctions use of the terms "bid modification" to describe their employees placing bids on items in their own auctions. I am beginning to think that a lot of dealers think guys on this board are stupid or just desperate to buy cards at any cost.
I've started reporting auctions based on what I think are modified scans, and actually had one guy take the auctions down and re-scan his cards normally after I showed him that modifying the contrast or sharpness a tiny bit can mask wrinkles and small creases and flaws in cards. This "picture modification" seems to occur alot on Old judge cards.

dave,
you nailed it again!! :D:D

The side by side Roses look the same to me. I don't think it's a fair accusation. People buying BMW's cards know what cards look like; if the scan is a bit bright they can tell that by the color of the flip.

Al Weis looks like he just saw all four golden girls naked.

I noticed the seller pulled this auction down....any idea what he wound up flipping this for??

Hi bobbyw8469
i took it off ebay because i'm done showcasing the card. I received several offers, with the highest $24,000 (a quick $4K profit), but at the end, i decided to keep the card. It's a beautiful card, and i enjoy looking at it daily.
I asked Beckett for an onsite grading over the weekend in SF, and based on their 4 points criteria (center, corner, surface, and edge), this card could've easily cross over to BVG 9.5.

Thank you for showcasing it.

Has anyone weighed in on whether it might be better to cross to PSA instead of Beckett? I'm sure there are a lot of opinions on this topic as well and you might get some good feedback on what to do with that beauty. Perhaps a poll or another thread?

Ladies and gentlemen... now batting for Chicago206... ichieh!

:d:d:d:d:d hey what happened to my grinnies???

You should have thought about that before you showcased them.

Calvindog
For modern cards, it's better to be in BGS holder. But anything pre 1980's, my personal belief is that PSA cards hold better value than BGS. But the fact that BVG is willing to cross this card further validify the quality of this card, and install my further trust in SGC grading.

I think he should give PRO Grading a shot at it. Who knows? This may cross to a PRO 11! :D

Try a capital "D" Peter. :D

"Calvindog
For modern cards, it's better to be in BGS holder. But anything pre 1980's, my personal belief is that PSA cards hold better value than BGS. But the fact that BVG is willing to cross this card further validify the quality of this card, and install my further trust in SGC grading."

Yes, can we do a poll. Pretty please ;)

I clicked on the damn smilies and they didn't work!!!

In my opinion the only chance you have of getting it into a PSA 10 would be to crack it out -- for political reasons they are highly unlikely to cross it in an SGC holder -- but you would be insane to crack it out so enjoy it as is.

showcasing?
 

I always put things on ebay to showcase them. Ebay is the biggest showcase in the world. Where is Chicago206 when you need him?

Validify? You're going to upset Barry.

Nothing around here surprises me anymore!

Nope, you can't get Barry's Goat any more.

"Goat" with a capital "G.":)

David, he may have left us forever...but I'm afraid your arch-nemesis has been reincarnated.

That happens right before you get banned, so I am told.

He already told us he is enjoying it. Would a poll help you recall that for the next time? Jeez Peter, pay attention, will ya!

 

It would be nice to have PSA cross it to a 10, not just for monetary reason, but it would be awesome to have all 3 major grading companies (SGC, PSA, BGS) agree on this card. But realistically, it would be very difficult to cross to PSA 10. I enjoy the card as it is, and as long as it's authentic and not altered, i don't really mind that it's in SGC holder instead of BVG or PSA.

yeap
 

The holder makes all the difference in the world. Sometimes I stay up late at night and just look at all of that plastic I have accumulated. Sometimes I polish it and clean it.....it gets real shiny that way. OH the smell of plastic in the morning!!

Would this "validify" the card or your ego?

With him, everything is ego driven. Every sentence he types has a reference to the all mighty $. He even had to mention he could have made $4000.00 profit on his Pete Rose, but that was an insignificant amount. Why did he need to tell everyone about that? Probably lives in mom's basement and used the $ he's saving on rent to buy this "showcase worthy" card.

Well, you could try to cross it to one company and then when successful, cross it to the next. Then all three companies could agree. And don't give up on the possibility of a PSA 10 cross. If you could manage that it could create generational wealth for your family.

"generational wealth" - calvindog, that comment is worth showcasing!

Jeff, you are absolutely right. I am living in a basement of my parents house and live off my monthly social security check. I am able to save enough pennies that i picked up off the street and bought the card. It's the only thing i have in life, so please don't try to take that away from me.

im beginning to think Chicago has had a name change. I C I A or itchy (or however you pronounce it) has the Chicago Bulls as his picture.... same witty banter and always talking about the $$ side of cards.....

I'm sorry -- I did not mean to imply that you are intentionally making an
attempt to mislead with your scans.

I do believe that your scans have the potential to mislead a buyer due to
their high contrast, which can misrepresent what the card will look like in
hand. Many times, this can be the fault of a scanner, or a scanner's
settings, which may not be the fault of the user. To me, the differences
between the two scans are blatantly obvious, as your scan exhibits much
bolder yellow & red colors, and much brighter white borders.

This is all my opinion, of course, and I see some here share it, while others
do not. I can leave it at that.

Not sure if this was ironic, sardonic or sarcastic, but it was funny. Point to icieh.
Let's not lynch this guy. So what if he spent a ton on a Rose rookie and he obsesses on grading and his command of the mother tongue isn't the best? He is no Chicago.

Finally ichieh, a post showing some personality! Much better than the robotic sounding posts we've come to expect. If you saw 10 pennies on the street, you would have probably left them because that wasn't enough for you. You expected 15 pennies.

Pennies can be graded, you know. Are we talking graded pennies or raw coins?

I, too, agree that there is no reason to crucify this guy. He's nothing like Chicago. He's not really disruptive. He starts no fights. He just has a different angle on collecting than many of the rest of us, but generally speaking he's fine.


One question, however...

Why isn't this thread in the Postwar Forum?

Maybe you could flip those pennies for nickels and then post the nickels on ebay to display them in hopes someone offers you dimes for them.... then you could take the dimes to another company and hope they think they are worth quarters!

the sharks were circling, the smell of blood was in the water, and you had to go and ruin the party.

Okay, but will some idiot please step forward and join the forum soon to give us some entertainment? Jeesh...

Chuck,

Thank you for your feedback.

I have viewed the two images on a number of different computers in different locations and can see no appreciable difference except for in the blue part of the card (mine appears to be lighter). Might it be the monitor that you are using?