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Well, he's a dealer that backs up his own items. That would make any dealer who issues their own coa an authenticator. Every booth at the national has an authenticator behind the desk. There are 600 authenticators at the national.
Here's my definition: An authenticator is an authenticator. i would have to see a letter of rejection from abc, or xyz on that ballplayers signature as i guess only those companies are qualified to tell people whose sigantures are real and who are not? Our mutual friend is the only one with the expertise to call out the al ruddy/al pacino mistake on pawn stars, even though many people on the blogs said "what a wonderful job mr. wonderful did on the authentication." so our mutual friend mr. mueller is terrible and the company who asked him to join, to which he said 'no' to many times is good. i finally got it now. |
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He is an complete idiot and anyone buying a thing from him or listening to his gibberish are complete morons. I base my opinion when the guy went on for 3 pages on that pathetic website, Autograph New Live last year how this Mantle was real. The thread has since been deleted by Steve Koschal, the festering boil on the ass of the autograph industry who runs that site of the stupid. Yeah right Todd, and Pete Nash has a bridge to sell you. For sake of clarification, I post this FORGED MICKEY MANTLE signed photo (yet again)as Exhibit A into this boobs stupidity. This was sold on his website last April. Why don't you explain your stupidity on "this Forum" and see how far it gets you....CRICKETS CRICKETS that's what I thought. When you admit you are wrong about this photo and refund the poor sap who bought it, I'll ease up. Until then you have ZERO CREDIBILITY and all your ventures should be treated as such. |
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So your friend Mueller called out the Al Ruddy/Al Pacino mistake on the Pawn Stars show. Wow, does that make him some kind of hero? But yet I didn't hear a peep from Mueller about the Drew Max and the FDR Letter To Clergy joke. Nor did I hear Mueller call out Drew Max and that Bram Stoker mess on the Pawn Stars. You're right, Travis, I finally got it now. It's called a double-standard. I got it. |
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I give him credit for breaking the Pawn Stars fiasco (1 of many fiascoes on that show) It just goes to show, if these guys worked together the industry would be much better off for it instead of being irreparably fractured. |
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Mr. Pacino didnt exactly get called out by you either for making the biggest pawn stars blunder of all. Where were you on that one? You call out all the fakes on that show and denigrate each one by who the authenticator is except for one conspicuous instance in which your scrutiny was absent? hmmmmmm. |
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Has Drew Max ever admitted to his numerous mistakes on Pawn Stars? Never!!! |
Forensic may just be something for the company title.
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I have looked everywhere and have not seen him admit his mistake. Please go wherever you want on the billions of pages on the web, and copy and paste once instance in which he admits the al pacino mistake. You can't do it because it's not there. I am sure you know where to look too. I will help you out though. The las vegas sun articles, the jewish magazine article, and autograph magazine live website. |
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Unusual in that Google usually corrects spelling errors but did not in his case. Sorry to GFA for that, but we are still watching. |
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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011...s-bigger-offe/ |
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exactly,
everyone, please read it and you wont see an admission anywhere. the interviewer admits it, and reznikoff simply says 'everyone makes mistakes" where is reznikoff's admission? many people have admitted it for him, but when it comes time for his turn, he puts up a link to a jewish magazine article he penned in which a general statement of mistakes comes up but nowhere will anyone find where he says he made a mistake on the pawn stars autograph out of john's own mouth. on autograph magazine live, the one passage where he comes closest is actually not there anymore, (available on google search though) Now presumably the only person that could remove the passage is reznikoff himself, why was it removed? you can see he only mentions he may have made a mistake, and he needs a few days to research it, because he is on the beach. so he hasnt seen the proof yet, and wont admit to a mistake, just maybe a mistake based on what others have told him. Here is the passage that is deleted, Jul 24, 2011 – Yup maybe I made a mistake and it is not Pacino . Need a few days to look into it.. ..last days on the beach with my kids. that's still not an admission as 'maybe' isn't an admission. "needs a few days to look into it" means he isn't admitting a mistake. And no one can post a passage where he admits to the pacino error. why doesn't he want people to see this passage anymore? he let''s other say it and then makes a statement about mistakes in general. not an admission! try again. |
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you just admitted i was right, because if you had evidence otherwise, you would have posted it, not just said that you give up, that i am a good debater.
Let's see the specific passage where john, out of his own mouth and with his own words says he made a mistake on the pacino? I just told the truth. I am just interested in the truth regarding this pawn stars mistake. Don't shoot the messenger, if he didn't admit it, and he should have, people should ask him to admit it. I would have respect for that if he admitted it. It's when people don't admit something, but piggyback others comment in vague terms to give the impression that he actually admitted it that points to his acumen at psychology. A lot of people have it in their mind that he must have admitted it, because it's right there in the record, right? Wrong, it's still not an admission. |
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The link to the story:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011...s-bigger-offe/ Here is John's apology and he made a $1,000.00 donation to the charity. Turns out that Ruddy writes in a similar fashion, and when Reznikoff realized he was wrong in his assessment, he not only apologized to Catholic Charities but donated $1,000 to the organization. “Everyone makes mistakes,” he said Wednesday. “The issue is what you do after you make the mistake.” And in the final analysis, he said, “the charity has benefited from the screenplay, so I’m happy.” |
To the members here, I won't apologize for going a bit off-track here, but I am done with this subject. I have made my points.
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say what you want, but you cant say i wasnt right.
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Just for the heck of it though, if anyone sees the COA's of GFA I would love to see them and the item that is authenticated.
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Read the following about Fakes
http://www.autographalert.com
I dont think ebay, psa/dna, or the rest of the so called best experts are mentioned more that 50-60 times with examples. Hmmmm Im so upset, I was told by the yeller on youtube psa/dna was the BEST and only~! Your right about one thing... |
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Anyone else suspect that "Ken" is someone who was tossed off eBay for selling fakes? :rolleyes: In my experience, those are the types that tend to attack the TomTresh videos the most vigorously.
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I'm frankly puzzled what people mean when they say stuff like, "can't stand what has happened to this part of the hobby." Were they around in the 90s when literally 80% of the stuff on ebay was fake? Did they go to any of the shows in the 90s when many of the show dealers were selling Marino Family forgeries and no one knew it? Have they forgotten the so-called reputable dealers like B&J Collectibles and Stans Sports selling forgeries by the truckload at shows and in big glossy magazine ads? Admittedly, the hobby has its issues, but it's way cleaner now than it was a decade ago. |
According to Chris, 80% of the stuff on eBay is still crap.
(And 80% of the buyers and sellers don't know what they're doing. Nice round number, 80%.) |
I haven't made a video in about nine months and during that time Ebay has made tremendous strides with help from its members in eradicating forgeries. It will never be 100%, that would be impossible, but Ebay finally took a step forward to removing forgeries from their auction site.
During the last year Ebay added Nicholas Burczyk, TTA (Ted Taylor) and Chris Morales to the "Banned COA" list. Chris Morales, Forensic Investigator, on the "Banned List" and Ted Taylor (TTA and Stat Authentic), Philadelphia Athletics Historian, on the "Banned List" with his renamed authentication company. Congrats to both Taylor and Morales. |
just curious, who or how would you report someone on ebay who may be selling very large amounts of forgeries? I'm talking about someone who could actually do something about it.
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We are all human and we all make mistakes. Some complain because their in-person autograph wasn't authenticated; I don't blame any authenticator who errs on the side of caution as opposed to maybe certing a forgery. Most collectors have their cards graded or autographs authenticated so that their card or autograph sells for a higher premium. There was a discussion on the other side about a Ozzie Smith PSA 10 rookie card that sold for $20,000. The collector who got that card graded made a nice penny on that card and the buyer of that card now owns a rare Ozzie Smith PSA 10 rookie card. Both the seller and buyer got what they wanted. |
Another idiot who buys the holder rather than the card.
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Yeah. Good for him.
(BTW, he also has bragging rights for being a semifinalist for the 2012 "More Money than Brains" award.) |
IMO, the PSA pop business like "one of four graded" is misleading. That is OF ONES GRADED. What about the people who either don't want/can't afford/don't care bout "professional grading"? There is NO way on God's Green Earth there are not MORE MINT Ozzie Rookies out there. Thus, the idea that the "pop is this" does NOT mean that many exist, just that many who someone has cared to get graded. So, I think its ridiculous overall.
That said, for those who do place such a high value on graded cards that any ungraded ones in high grade are basically irrelevant. are happy. Course, tho I think its nuts. I also know the guy who paid what is a ridiculous 20K for that is happy, so its his life. Sorry Leon for this , but I wrapped up my thought on it, since the thread had jumped the tracks. |
they are buying the grade, and not the card.
Some high 9's of smith have the 9 grade on the holder because psa doesnt do 9.5's, and these high 9's are in the same condition as the 10 in many instances, just a lot less expensive. They were close but fell on the 9 side of the fence in the graders mind based on if the grader was feeling conservative or liberal that day. some high 9's keep getting resubmitted by the submitter until it comes back a 10. They are chasing the grade only. so they have the same card either way, they just want that #10 on there, for the price increase and bragging rights, but the card didnt change. It's not about the card anymore. If I wanted a pristine ozzie smith card, just buy a nice 9 and save the vast bulk of the purchase price a 10 would cost. even add your own 10 label on it if someone needed the ego boost. Some guy paid 90 grand for a psa 10 wayne gretzky rookie. It's just insanity, but there are guys out there that already have a lexus for every day of the week and they need to spend their money on something I guess. its the same thing with getting an LOA with autographs. Many collectors just want the cert, and if the autograph is actually real or not is secondary. They would rather have a fake autograph with a abc/xyz cert than a real one without an LOA. As long as no one tells them the truth. |
Imagine, beating up a collector because with his own hard-earned money, he desired, and now owns one of four Ozzie Smith "1979 Topps" rookie cards graded PSA 10. Pitiful.
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Give it a rest, Chris. I sure hope PSA or JSA don't turn a corner too quickly, 'cause it might break your neck.
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BTW, the moron who bought the Smith is out a sh#tload more money than the poor sap with the bad Mantle! |
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He's not collecting the card, he's collecting the grade.
There are 9's out there in the same condition, just a LOT cheaper. He's a status collector, he collected the status of being a grade 10 - 1 of 4 in a certain circle of collectors that no else is admitted in this circle unless they want to pay that amount also. There is an app for the iphone called the "I am rich" app, and it consists of a red jewel that shows up on your iphone and that's all it does. It cost 1000 dollars and some people have bought it for the sole status of saying that they own it and have the means to own it. He can buy the ozzie smith if he wants to. but he's not buying card or even the condition, he's buying the status, grade 10 - 1 of 4. If he took it out of the holder, it would still be the same card in the same condition, but he couldn't show others the #10 on the holder anymore and it wouldnt be worth the money even though it is the same card. i don't know who the guy is, he collects for his own reasons, and others collect for their reasons too, and we don't have to agree. If he paid 10 million for the card you would think he was still sane? we just have different sane thresholds and #10 cards going for that kind of money crossed my threshold a while ago. but he can go for it and knock himself out. It's a free country. |
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Travis wrote "He's not collecting the card, he's collecting the grade."
So what if he did collect the grade. The population reports reads that the buyer of that card owns one of four of that particular PSA 10 graded card. That's not an illusion, that's real. If that's what he paid for, so what. What business is it of yours? How does that purchase affect your life, Travis? Explain that to everyone here. |
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You'd just rather be a bully yourself. And you are. As well as being a self-centered, egotistical, moron. So proud of yourself for yelling at nameless eBay buyers on YouTube.
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For someone who wimped out on the Piedmont thread, you sure have a lot to say. I will end this here by stating, David, you're an agitator because you have nothing else to contribute here on Net54. I will no longer reply to any Atkatz comments. I took the bait and this time I do apologize to the members here for allowing Atkatz to hijack this thread and for my contributing to that hijacking. |
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Self-righteous schmuck.
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Chris! You replied immediately after saying you wouldn't! Does the left half of your brain have any idea what the right half is doing?
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It doesnt affect my life, i just think its crazy to overpay for a bump in condition that only a microscope can detect, if there is a bump in condition at all. |
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I don't understand why posts like this are tolerated on this forum?? Ken earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com |
I agree. This place is turning into nothing but a name calling contest, with two people who can't play in sandbox together. Really pathetic
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Dude!!! What the hell happened in here? David c'mon quit pokin at Chris. It's completely uncalled for.
Anyways. It's one thing for a thread to go off topic, BUT not when there's already a thread about the topic. If you're gonna argue about the PSA 10 Ozzie, do it in the PSA 10 Ozzie thread. |
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That said, if someone wants to spend their money that way, that's their right. I'd prefer to spend my collecting dollars on 25 "near perfect" somethings than one imaginary perfect exemplar. |
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While we're at it, if someone is willing to spend $20,000 of their money on a baseball card is an "idiot," couldn't that name also be attached to someone who spends $10,000-20,000 on a signed baseball? While we're at it (again,) I'm tired of hearing Chris bring up your continued silence on the Piedmont situation. How about breaking the cone of silence on that one so we can put it to rest, too? Ken earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com |
well crap
Well, crap. I don't really like to step in the middle of threads too much. That being said, when I put my manager cap on, and some good folks are all saying the same thing, then I need to say something. So here is the deal.
David- you need to cut the crap out. I get the fact you were irritated or whatever. If you can't add anything positive please don't just fuel the fire. At the same time, I will also ask Chris and others to keep their distance from you. Next one that throws a jab at each other will get a time out. I don't want this place to get out of control and it's gone far enough. I am trying to be fair to all parties and the board in general. If anyone has any questions....go for it. Thanks for your understanding. |
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Anyways, back to the original topic of this thread....I just ran across some GFA authenticated items for the first time since I learned about their existence. Thought you guys would like to see some of their work.
http://skystuff.skyauction.com/iSynA...ctionId=541912 http://skystuff.skyauction.com/iSynA...ctionId=542509 http://skystuff.skyauction.com/iSynA...ctionId=542519 |
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Skyauction.com is a travel site, so happy to see them in the autograph business, what could be better? :D |
one further comment
One further comment on the subject of arguing. I re-read my last post and it probably singled David out a bit too much. My main message was supposed to be that I want everyone to quit bickering so much. However that happens, I don't care. Please carry on....but I have my eye on it. :) thanks ya'll....
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So is the GFA sticker supposed to resurrect tainted Global Authentics stock?
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When the memorabilia side was first created there was never any fighting, and we always had interesting discussions about photos, books, 19th century pieces, and the like. Now a bunch of autograph guys have hijacked this whole side of the board. All we have is our daily thread about fradulent autographs, then the same people get into their daily pissing match. I really hate what you guys are doing to the memorabilia side. It's no longer fun to hang out here unless you are in the mood to watch a trainwreck. I hate autographs and think you all have become a pain in the ass.
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I find the drama, personal fights and evil people writing anonymous blogs too much, but the subject of autographs on this board I find interesting. So I have nothing against autographs being a topic here.
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