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Posted By: <b>Justin Manning</b><p>and the E106<br /><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/jpaol99/otherecards/websize/scan0035.jpg">
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Posted By: <b>Colt McClelland</b><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/cmcclelland/e901americancaramels/websize/graham_13.jpg">
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Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>hey, that e106 has Honus at 2B. is that the only one? any idea why?
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>In the T216 set Wagner has 4 cards......<br /><br />Two as a SS......Batting and Throwing <br /><br />Two as a 2b......Batting and Throwing
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Peaches Graham....now there's a real "toughie" in this set. And, another<br />Boston player....what's with this set and the scarcity of cards portraying<br />Boston (AL or NL) players ?<br /><br />After looking at all these cards, I think I will start putting together a<br />2nd set. I found these E90-1 cards in my "junk" box, so here I go again.<br />I am not going to be fussy this time, as is evident with these 4 cards, so<br /> this set should be more affordable.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/echase.jpg"><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/ecriger.jpg"><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/ekeeler.jpg"><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/ejennngs.jpg"><br />
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Posted By: <b>Colt McClelland</b><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/cmcclelland/e901americancaramels/websize/joss-c3313.jpg">
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Great going Colt.....you're darn right he is a tough card in this set.<br /><br />So, now we need Charlie Hall to have all 5 Horiz. cards on display.<br /><br />It's funny, Charlie Hall in HS was one of my best friends. Then another<br />Charlie Hall was one of my best friends when I was in the Air Force.<br />OK guys, neither of these guys are the same Charlie Hall that is portrayed<br />in this set. I am not that old, although some think I date back to the<br />prehistoric age.
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1143865262.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1143865288.JPG">
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Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>After seeing the scan, I would add Willis to the list of more difficult e90-1's. I just haven't seen too many show up in the years I've paid attention to the set (5 or so). Anyone else agree?
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>BEN.....I fully agree with you.....the St Louis (NL) team designation<br /> proves this observation.<br /><br />Willis was certainly one of the tough ones when I was putting my set<br />together. He was traded from Pitts. to St Louis in Jan 1910.<br /><br />So, if my theory is correct that American Caramel produced their 1st Series<br /> of cards (the basic 100) in 1908; then, Willis was one of the cards added<br /> on, in the last Series. And, therefore, short-printed.<br />
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p><B>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> 100 posts <<<<<<<<<<<<&l t;<<<<<<<<<<<< << </B><br /><br />Maybe a conincidence, but since this thread started, e90-1 listings on ebay have gone from maybe 10-15 cards at any given time, to over 60 right now .... <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />A player known for bunting abilities .....<br /><img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a296/mybuddyinc/e90%20with%20character/e90thomasR.jpg"><br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Troy Kirk</b><p>OK, here is the one thing I always disliked about this set - bright red lipstick on a lot of the players. Poor Hughie Jennings is probably the worst, but even the expensive Shoeless Joe Jackson card didn't escape this indignity.<br /> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1143953120.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1143953157.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1143953182.JPG">
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Posted By: <b>Brian Lindholme</b><p>Is anyone ( Ted, maybe) keeping track of who has been shown and who is still needed?<br />Here's another...keep 'em coming!<br />We have a long way to beat Bonds!<br /><br />Brian L<br />familytoad<br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1143953931.JPG">
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Brian L<br /><br />Your Stanage card brings us to one over the 1/2 way mark of 60 cards.<br />So, let's continue to show them.<br /><br />Has any 100+ card (vintage) set ever been completely displayed in a<br />Thread on this Forum ?
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Posted By: <b>Lyle</b><p>if 1908 was indeed the year the E90-1 set was first offered ( and I would be very interested in your rationale ) , would that make the Ty Cobb his rookie card ?
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Lyle Jobe<br /><br />1st....where were you....didn't see you at Philly in March ?<br /><br />You raise a really great question....but far be it from "little ole me" to<br />declare that the E90-1 Ty Cobb is his real "rookie" card. I recently had to<br />dodge a lot of flak when I brought up the subject his 1907 Dietsche P/C.<br /><br />However, I will present some actual facts on this set and I leave it up to<br />you guys to decide. One fact I am quite confident of is.....that my study<br />suggests that the American Caramel Co. of Philadelphia started designing<br /> and producing its 1st Series of cards in 1908.<br /><br />1....The Cy Young card (portrait) in the 1st Series depicts him with Boston.<br /> He was traded to Cleveland in FEB 1909....and, indeed, a later Series card<br /> of CY depicts him with Cleveland (pitching pose).<br /><br />Now, compare this with the 3 cards of CY in the T206 set where all 3 have him<br />with Cleveland. Does this tells us that the 1st Series cards of the E90-1 set<br />preceded the T206 issue ? Did this series of E90-1 cards get into the market<br />sometime in 1908, or perhaps very early in 1909 ?<br /><br />2....And, was the Ty Cobb card in this 1st Series of E90-1 cards ? Well, con-<br />sider this, most of his career he played CF. The E90-1 card designates his<br />fielding position as RF. He played in RF from 1907-09 and was switched to CF<br />when the Left-Handed throwing Sam Crawford took over the RF spot for Detroit.<br /><br />3....Why does Shoeless Joe Jackson appear in this set ? He was only in 5 games<br /> in 1908 and 1909 (his rookie years). Could it be because he started with the<br />Phila A's and these cards were produced in Philly ? He never made it into the<br /> T206 set, which has always been a mystery to me.<br /><br />4....Of course the big mystery is why wasn't Walter Johnson in the E90-1 set ?<br />His rookie year is 1907, and by then it is possible the printing plate impressions<br /> of first Series cards were already at the printing plant ?<br /><br />But, in 1910 he had won 25 games and was an established star, so why didn't<br />Am. Caramel include him in their latter series of cards (which reflect Trades<br />and Managerial changes in 1910).<br /><br />OK....enough for now; however, there are even more arguments in favor of a<br />possible 1908 issue (instead of 1909 as is noted in the Price Guides). <br /> <br />
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Posted By: <b>Lyle</b><p>I was planning on going to the March Fort Washington but elected to spend quality time with my wife and sons ( probably a good choice). <br />Additional info indicating an earlier release date for the E90-1 set according to the Lew Lipset Encyclopedia would be both John Butler and Johnny Siegle being out of the Majors by 1907 yet having E90-1 cards .I love a card set with some controversy...I think it adds some mystery .<br />I hope my comments didn't distract from the parade of beautiful cards displayed here . Here is my lone contribution : <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1144084859.JPG">
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>LYLE....your Joe Jax is one of the nicer ones that I have seen.<br /><br />You and me, both, when it comes to mysterious BB card sets. My favorite<br /> pastime, all these years collecting sportscards, is trying to resolve these<br /> mysteries. <br /><br />And, thanks for the info; I guess if my thinking is similar to Lew Lipset's<br />thoughts on this set.....I am really in good company.<br /><br />In an earlier post on this Thread, I did question why Siegle is in this set.<br />On the other hand, players like Siegle and Butler being in this set further<br /> the discussion that this set was possibly issued in 1908. <br />
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Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>I think we are at a point where we realize there are several levels of scarcity<br />within the group of "tough" cards. This implies more than just two Series of<br /> E90-1 cards, which I have been eluding to. The consensus of opinion in this<br />Thread definitely places this Hugh Duffy card in the highest level of scarcity.<br />This is consistent with our research, as his card was a very late entry into<br />this set......his card reflects him as Manager of Chicago (AL) which began at<br />the start of the 1910 season,<br /><br />I am now suggesting that the E90-1 set breaks down to 3 series of 120 cards.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/duffye90.jpg">
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Posted By: <b>scott fandango</b><p>its been 2 years since this thread was active....have any of the questions been answered?<br /><br />was the E90-1 first series printed in 1908?<br /><br />what happened to all the nice scans of these cards?
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Posted By: <b>Steve Dawson</b><p>OK, here are all my E90-1s <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> ...<br /><br /><img src="http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/steved80/E90-1HOFers1.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/steved80/E90-1HOFers2.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/steved80/E90-1HOFers3.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/steved80/E90-1HOFers4.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/steved80/E90-1HOFers5.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/steved80/E90-1HOFers6.jpg"><br /><br />Steve
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Posted By: <b>Tony Andrea</b><p>Nice cards Steve. Always enjoy looking at some nice E90-1's. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Tony
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Posted By: <b>Jerry Rucker</b><p>Thanks Scott, for ressurecting(SP.) this old Post. I just started collecting this set. I always admired this set but was stuck on hof collecting for many years. Anyway, here's the ones I've got in the last couple months<br /> <p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/baker.jpg" width="177" height="320"><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/oakes4.jpg" width="193" height="320"><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/mcintire.JPG" width="175" height="320"><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/brown.jpg" width="320" height="187"><br /><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/howell.jpg" width="206" height="320"><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/lumley.jpg" width="185" height="320"><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/unglaub.jpg" width="201" height="320"><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/stanage.jpg" width="209" height="320"><br /><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/bradley.jpg" width="189" height="320"><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/blankenship.jpg" width="196" height="320"><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/donovan.jpg" width="186" height="320"><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/demmitt250.jpg" width="189" height="320"><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/ruckers/variouscommons/small/E90-1Gibson.JPG" width="187" height="320">
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Posted By: <b>Rob D.</b><p>In case you missed it, here's an interesting related thread from December:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1197857767/Why+did+this+auction+go+so+high" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1197857767/Why+did+this+auction+go+so+high</a>-
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>There is a subsequent Thread on this Forum that pretty well proves that the 1st Series of both the American Caramel sets....<br />E91 and E90-1....were issued in 1908. And, the last Series of these two sets were issued in 1910. <br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/honuswagnere91.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/batwagner.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br />TED Z
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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Cobb is a 1st series card and not that tough....but, very expensive.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/e90cobb.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/be90eddieplank.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/achasee90.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/edplanke90.jpg"><br /><br /><br />Tough one......<br /><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/e90wagner.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Three of the 20 toughest ones issued in the last Series in 1910......<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/duffyupp.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/atrispeak.jpg"><br /><br /><br /><br />TED Z collection<br /><br />
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Posted By: <b>Tony Andrea</b><p>I hope you guys don't mind me sharing some pics of mine. <br />It serves no purpose for em' to stay locked away and never<br />shared. They should be enjoyed.<br /><br /><img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/rare3.jpg"> <img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/sgc40e90-1speaker2.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/rare2.jpg"> <img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/rare1.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/andreatny/redbacks1.jpg"><br /><br />edited to shrink scans...
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Posted By: <b>Jason Carota</b><p>The E90-1 set is my favorite of all time. At one point I had Karger and Hall, now just a "well-loved" Hall:<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q319/jay1065/Red%20Sox%20-%20Vintage/1900-1929/1909-11_e90_1_hall.jpg">
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Thanks for sharing those great picks guys!<br /><br /><br />i love sets that dont have "mint examples"<br /><br /><br />shows how tough these really are!<br />
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WOW ! ...... 7 years since I initiated this E90 thread....I guess time really travels fast when you're having fun :)
I have few regrets in this hobby; but, selling my complete E90-1 set back in the late 1990's at the Ft Washington show is one. The Joe Jax in this set was either Ex (or VgEx)......I say Ex, but most likely a TPG would grade it a "4". Anyhow, here are some of my favorites from my current 2nd set (of which I have no expectations of completing). http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d.../batwagner.jpg..http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d.../e90wagner.jpghttp://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d.../atrispeak.jpg http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...az/e90cobb.jpghttp://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...wtinkerupp.jpg http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/t...6/e90duffy.jpghttp://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d.../achasee90.jpg..http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...z/abkeeler.jpg TED Z |
Thanks, Dave, and nice as always, Ted!
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Thanks Chuck
Are you putting together this set......and, if so, how far into it are you ? I ask, since there doesn't appear to be the intense interest in the E90-1 set currently as there existed 7 years ago when this thread was posted. Best regards, TED Z |
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Wanted to do an annual bump on a great, informative thread that began in 2006 in discussing the E90-1 set. I started the set a few months ago, and I am at about half way to completing the "Caramel Monster". Here are some of my recent purchases (perhaps shown elsewhere). I was hoping that some of the "caramel old timers" could chirp in on any recent revelations on the toughness of certain players such as Mitchell, Graham, Walsh, Wagner Throwing, Speaker, Duffy, etc. Thanks!
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I am not collecting the e90-1 set, but did need the Lobert for my back run. I was lucky enough to be able to trade for it with another member.
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The T216 cards (MINO, KOTTON, VIRGINIA EXTRA) were obviously not printed by American Lithographic, as most other Tobacco cards of that era.
Most of the T216 front images are identical to the E90 (or other Candy cards) images. Circa 1914-1916, the Peoples Tobacco Co. Ltd. contracted the same printing firm that produced the E90-1 cards to produce the T216 cards. ................. E90-1 ........................................... T216 http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d.../achasee90.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ottonchase.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ottonchase.jpg My question is.....does anyone on this forum know who the Printing firm was that produced the E90-1 and the T216 cards ? TED Z __________________________________________________ _____________________________________________ LOOKING for these T206 guys to complete my EXCLUSIVE 12 run of OLD MILL cards (12 subjects) ..... Duffy ..... Gandil ..... Geyer ..... Hummel ..... Pfeffer ..... Sheckard ..... Tannehill ..... Wheat . |
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Breaker 14...we have a hijacking in progress...please advise...:)
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I almost bought this lot a few months ago...
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Hey Pete
:) Here's my McGraw....he needs his "Kotton-pickin" McGraw cousin....any chances you would sell your's ? :)
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Ted...most everything in life can be had for the right price/trade!😁
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