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HAPPY NEW YEAR to all Net54er's
Here's George Raft (upper rightmost) and 9 of the major Movie Stars in this set (circa 1949).
Incidently, the backs of these cards are white. George Raft had close connections to Baseball. As a 15-year old, he was a bat-boy for the New York Highlanders (circa 1910). He also tried out for semi-pro baseball before becoming a movie star. An avid baseball fan, George Raft attended every World Series from the late 1920's thru to 1957. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...viestars10.jpg TED Z |
Rita Hayworth....nothing wrong with that!!!!
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A few weeks ago my best friend from H.S. brought me some of his cards
to take a look at and give him an idea on the value of some of them. Among them were these cards. I remember him telling me about them when he got them. His mother purchased them for him through an add in the NY Times back in the late 80's-early 90's. I found this old thread while doing some research and I believe they must have come from the "Festberg" find. Is there any new info on these, any idea's on the value of them. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Patrick |
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Pat.....guess you can call this an imposter. I dont recall the name of this set. It has the same front of Aaron Robinson one side(as one of the cards you have) and an actor(recognize the face but dont know actor's name) on other side of the card. Presumably same year.
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So is there a conclusion as to the designation of the square borders and are they listed in the Standard Catalog?
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Hi Lee
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Email me and I will discuss this further...... tedzan11@comcast.net TED Z |
Jackie 1947?
What do you think? Is it a 1947 or later
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-JACKIE-...item35d97b133a |
Hi Michael
It looks like a 1947 from the BOND BREAD packages. All four corners appear to have a (partial) bevel. I say "partial" since the corner cuts
are not clean-cut. I wish the seller would have shown the back of this card....in order for me to be certain that it is an original 1947. TED Z |
Picked this up recently and it seems to be made by the same production people as the Bond etc. cards and related materials. It is the size of a commemorative postage stamp, blank backed, real photo.
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Some more perforated cards, and proof that the Hess Shoes was just a back stamp:
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...orated%205.JPG http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...orated%207.JPG http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...rated%2012.JPG Elgee says 46 cards of sports, Hollywood and cowboys and we know there are 44 ballplayers, 4 boxers and a bunch of actors potentially available. The ad looks to be 2 cards wide. I suspect there are at least two sheets, maybe more. Leon shows the Holmes with a FB player back, but the Holmes I am getting has actor Van Johnson on the back, and all three of the ad cards have different cowboy fronts. The group I purchased breaks down as follows: Jackie Robinson/James Cagney Pee Wee Reese/Western Back Larry Jansen/Western Back Harry Brecheen/Western Back Rex Barney/Western Back Bruce Edwards/Western Back Buddy Kerr/Western Back Roy Rogers/Western Back Cary Grant/Western Back Sheldon Jones/Western Back Willard Marshall/Western Back Tommy Holmes/Van Johnson Claudette Colbert/Western Back Ginger Roberts/Western Back Gregory Peck/Western Back Jennifer Jones/Western Back Katherine Hepburn/Western Back Lon McCallister/Western Back Sonja Heine/Western Back Western Front w/ Three Men/Ad Back Western Front w/Two Men/Ad Back Western Front w/One Man/Ad Back Maybe we can take a shot at a master list? |
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Exhibitman, congrats on the group. I bid fairly heavily on this auction as well.
As far as your master list, I have one card I can add: Ted Williams Front/Babe Zaharias back (have seen 3 of these, but no other combo with either Ted or Babe) Dave |
I was able to piece together a partial sheet. Definitely 4 cards across.
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Can't believe I missed that auction! If you ever decide to sell the Robinson, please let me know.
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If I sell Robby it would be an auction because I have no idea how to price one.
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I asked this two years ago and going to try again in hope of getting a clear answer.
What is the conclusion to the designation of the square cornered baseball issues? 47 Bond, 47 Homogenizied or something else? Thanks Lee |
Hi Lee
The Square cards were issued in 1948 or 1949 and marketed as "Sports Star Subjects". The proof of this issue date(s) is the inclusion of the Walker Cooper card as a NY Giant (this subject was not in the original 1947 Bond Bread issue). Furthermore, Cooper was traded to Cinci in the Summer of '49. The Sports Star Subjects set of 48 (SQUARE) cards were sold in 4 boxes of 12 cards each. TED Z . |
Thanks for clearing this up, Ted
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Has anyone been tracking these issues in terms of the RC nuttiness? Has it spilled into this collecting backwater?
Oh, and here's the Jackie Robinson image as I seem to have killed the one that was posted before: http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...son-Cagney.jpg |
Lee
I'm still researching this Sports Star Subjects set. I have yet to find any of the 4 packets containing 12 cards each that these Square cards were sold in. I've seen (or had) several of the individual cards (including the Walker Cooper card). Here's my Rizzuto and a sample of the Movie Star issue (circa 1949-1950). I have a near complete set of the Movie Stars. https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...utostewart.jpg Refer to post #8 in this thread to distinguish the original (1949) Square cards from the "Festberg find" Square reprint cards with respect to the difference in the color of their backs (white vs. toned). Looking forward to seeing you at the National. TED Z . |
I'm not a card guy, but are those expensive per card
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Some of my Bond Bread cards
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Kenny- great looking cards there!! |
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I believe this photo appeared in the original thread but I think the picture of the cards issued in the boxes disappeared. Here's the photo.
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Thanks for posting those packets. They are the 4 packets of the Sports Star Subjects set (Square cards) that I alluded to in post #72 here. TED Z . |
Is there a checklist for each series of the Sports Stars? It says on the front of the boxes that each series contains 12 cards, but I am not sure if they are all baseball or if they are mixed sports.
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That shot of robinson was also used in there picture pack.
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Regarding The Imposters-Pafko
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I have no idea if this is relevant to the good work Ted and others have done but...I noticed that the same image was used in the "Imposter Series" as was used in the '38 Salutation Exhibit. It is clear to me by the brim on Andy's cap. Those boxes were very nice to see!!!
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I just picked up this Ewell Blackwell with square corners (1949 version).
I was surprised that the card is a pretty flimsy paper stock with a semi-gloss back. Is that consistent with the series or is mine some sort of reprint/fantasy card? http://photos.imageevent.com/allreds...-Blackwell.jpg |
According to the SCD article, here's the checklist:
1. Rex Barney 2. Yogi Berra 3. Ewell Blackwell* 4. Lou Boudreau* 5. Ralph Branca 6. Harry Brecheen* 7. Primo Carnera* 8. Marchel Cerdan 9. Dom DiMaggio 10. Joe DiMaggio 11. Bobby Doerr* 12. Bruce Edwards 13. Bob Elliott* 14. Del Ennis* 15. Bob Feller* 16. Carl Furillo 17. Joe Gordon* 18. Cid Gordon 19. Joe Hatten 20. Gil Hodges 21. Tommy Holmes* 22. Larry Jansen 23. Sheldon Jones 24. Eddie Joost 25. Charlie Keller 26. Ken Keltner* 27. Buddy Kerr 28. Ralph Kiner* 29. Jake LaMotta 30. Johnny Lindell 31. Whitey Lockman 32. Joe Louis* 33. Willard Marshall 34. John Mize* 35. Stan Musial* 36. Andy Pafko* 37. Johnny Pesky* 38. Pee Wee Reese 39. Phil Rizzuto* 40. Jackie Robinson* 41. Aaron Robinson* 42. Johnny Sain* 43. Enos Slaughter* 44. Vern Stephens* 45. Birdie Tebbets 46. Bobby Thomson 47. Johnny Vander Meer 48. Ted Williams* Ewell Blackwell was part of the square corner find, so that appears to be what you have. Not sure about the semi-gloss back, however. The backs are generally just regular paper stock and blank. |
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Hey "Bubba" Can we see a scan of the back of this Blackwell card. TED Z . |
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I'm new to vintage. Was wondering why this is not considered Jackie Robinson's rookie card? 1947 with rounded corners - this was around before the leaf set, correct?
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It is a RC, but that doesn't make it popular.
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All six of these 1947 Bond Bread cards can be considered the 1st Major League (rookie) cards issued of these BB players.
https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...ookiestars.jpg However, the powers to be back in the 1970's overlooked these cards in favor of the Bowman and Leaf issues. TED Z . |
Thanks for the info. I like the idea of getting a "true" rookie card, might have to pick one of these up even if not as popular.
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This thread made me do it...
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Here is an authentic rounded/beveled cornered Ted Williams which I have up n the Bay right now with an inexplicably low grade. They are tough on these guys - i was shooting for about double this and had a big mess in my diaper when i got it back in the mail.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182184104094...84.m1555.l2649 http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TlkAAO...XV/s-l1600.jpg |
1940's bond cards
Need your help,, cannot send Bond Pictures (22) for verification. Even when I try to send email it says no no.Been at this for 2days and feel like IQ is 40 Minus that is
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1940's Bond Cards
It almost looks like these rounded corners come from picture holders in those days. Mine all have what looks like scotch tape angled at the corners just like the picture holders. Your thoughts please... thank you, Douglas
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Here are Doolittle's cards
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