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Posted By: <b>Brian McQueen</b><p><br>Hey guys,<br><br>Thanks for the kind words. I was thrilled to have an opportunity to redesign our site and help give us an updated look. I think that once you all get used to things, you'll really have some fun with the "bells and whistles" this software has to offer. I'll run you through a few things briefly -<br><br>1. posting images to Net 54 was confusing to say the least AND, you couldn't even use the feature with Firefox! This new software will allow you to do it easily just by browsing for the file on your machine and then clicking "upload"<br><br>2. Keeps track of the number of the total # of posts each person has and displays that next to your user name.<br><br>3. Anybody can start a "poll" anytime they want. Very clean and efficient too! Over here, we basically had to create a seperate page for polls and place a link to it at the top of the page. When we ran out of room at the top, we had to stop doing polls essentially.<br><br>4. A new "reputation" system has been implemented. This allows you to giving somebody positive or negative "rep" just by clicking a button. You can also easily report offensive posts to Leon or myself.<br><br>5. of course, the "smilies" will be back and there will be more of them too. Personal avatars will be over here as well.<br><br>6. There will be a "quote" button in place allowing you to easily reference a point someone else just made as you start your own reply<br><br>7. Each member will get to have their own little bio page and will be able to private message others. Sort of like sending an instant message....<br><br>These are a few things. On the whole, it will be a lot of fun and the page will function better and be nicer to look at visually as well!
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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br><br>Hey Brian,<br><br>Nice job with everything, looks great. One question though, would it be time to update the member info page? I know I personally have some stuff I could correct as do a few others, and probably have some wanting to get added to the page at some point. <br><br>I know your probably wore out from this for the time being...just wanted to see if there were plans in the not too distant future to update the info on that page as well. <br><br><br>Dave
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Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>but here's the real question:<br><br>Will the items offered on the BST section over there be cheaper or more expensive than here at Net54?<br><img src="/images/happy.gif" height="14" width="14" alt="happy.gif">
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Posted By: <b>martindl</b><p><br>Nice job fellas.<br><br>I can see my next comments taking this thread way off cue, so I apologize up front if that's what happens.<br><br>Leon, a couple of times you mention not registering one person in particular and then to Barry's post where he said he'd stick with the old forum, you said "It will be you and Jim C...." <br><br>I do hope that Jim is not the one who will be refused entry.<br><br>Bring on the toyz maybe, but not Jim.
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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>No-Leon is refering to that I am the most computer iliterate person on the board. I will likely never use of the new features of the board and all these things that Brian mentions--Firefoxes and bios and all the other things he brings up are not my thing. <br><br>I finally can use this system and I wish we would stay with this. Maybe Leon will leave this up so Barry and I can firefox or whatever that other techy word was on the other thread with each other.
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Posted By: <b>Dave F</b><p><br>Martin-<br><br>Jim C is not who Leon was referring.
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Posted By: <b>Jerry Spillman</b><p><br><br>I simply explained my observations and experience in using the new format and concluded that using either the old or new format as a forum will not make much difference in my opinion. Either way it will not affect me. <br><br>However your decision to convert my opinion into a personal attack is unwarranted. Just what you are warning others not to do.<br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jim- I don't even know what a firefox is...but it does sound dangerous.
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Posted By: <b>JDRUM</b><p>Google Mozilla and you'll know. Harmless, a web browser.
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Vote Barry Sloate president of the Luddite Society.<br><br>Only don't do it here..please use paper ballot and send it via Pony Express.<br><br>Thanks!
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>My statement wasn't meant to be personal. I was only making a strong statement about my opinion towards the forum and the magnitude of improvement, going to the new forum software from the old forum software . <br><br><br>Since this is my thread let me go O/T for a second....<br><br><br>You mentioned, rather benignly-<br> <br>"These forums are well established and have been online for years. One seeks operational donations and the other offers website links for job and web development opportunities."<br><br><br><br>Sounds pretty neat. Could you tell me more about the site you frequent that accepts operational donations, the "storm" one?
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Posted By: <b>Paul S</b><p>Congrats on the new soon-to-be site and welcome to the 21st Century. That layout is typical for most forums these days, and easy to navigate. Looking forward to it.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>The transferring of the old data is taking much longer than anticipated. We are at about 10% of the main forum right now. It is going to be several more days, unfortunately, before we can move over. There have been some good suggestions so far. Once we get over there I am sure there will be many more and Brian, Dan and I will try to take those into consideration while making the new forum as hospitable as this one.. We don't feel we want to move over until the data transfer is done as it would be a technical nightmare with new threads getting in the way of the process......regards
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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Guys - take your time and do what you think you need to do. We've been here for many years and a few more day or weeks will not matter one bit. Thanks very much for all of the work this obviously takes, and definitely don't feel like you have to add to it by trying to rush everything.<br><br>J
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Posted By: <b>Jerry Spillman</b><p><br><br>Certainly, as is the case with the majority of the forums on the Internet there is a plea for donations to sustain their operating costs. I find very few forums without some type of financial requests. Out of the dozen or more forums I browse I found that the two I mentioned are using the same standard template software company that you chose to use. Most other forums use very similar type templates.<br><br>Here was a forum where apparently costs exceeded donations:<br><br><a href="http://egyptologist.org/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://egyptologist.org/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi</a><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Jerry, are you going to just casually drop the fact that you frequent a neo-nazi hate site and just leave it at that? C'mon guy let us know what you're doing over there on Stormfront.<br><br>for those who don't know what Stormfront is check out their wikipedia entry<br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_" target="_new">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_</a>(website)
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>It wasn't really the donations that were in question, with my questioning. It was more the absolutely hate filled skinhead anti-semitic anti-everything, except WASP, site you frequent. That was kind of where I was going .....As Dan mentioned, do you care to explain that?<br><br>edited typo
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Maybe he's trying to get them interested in baseball cards so that they stop discussing ways to kill all the Jews. And all the blacks. And all the...(so on and so forth).
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>"Stormfront has published stories aimed at children, and the Stormfront for Kids section of the website hosts a link to "White Power Doom", a downloadable white power computer game that allows children the opportunity to hunt and kill Jews and black people."
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Posted By: <b>Jerry Spillman</b><p><br>I thought we were talking software.<br><br>I read and browse all sorts of historical and news sites. This is just one of them. My curiosity of that site does not mean I endorse any of their extreme philosophies. If you look at their membership list you will not find my name or any contributions of any kind by me.<br><br>Leon, I thought you knew me. <br><br><br><br><br>
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>We have spoken maybe 3-5 times in person....for maybe 20 minutes each time. I hoped I knew you better than someone that would endorse that type of behavour. I am aware there are sites like that but never really peruse them....maybe I should? For some reason I like to fill my life with as positive of vibes as possible...though I do agree that the old proverb says to know your friends well, and your enemies better, and that is not a bad thought either........regards
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Stormfront is neither a "Historical" or "News" site. It is a HATE site pure and simple. It's purpose is to revise history and to indoctrinate people into their hate filled ways. To casually drop that site as one to compare website templates to the new Net54, and now put them in the category of History and News lends legitimacy to them. They are kooks.
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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Dan, it can't be all bad, it offers an online dating service -- for white Gentiles only, naturally.
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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Well, it is a historical and news site: for the history buff one can learn that the Holocaust never occurred; as for news: the blacks and Jews are destroying the world. It is a hilarious site, to be fair. I've never seen a site filled with more low-grade, frustrated white trash in my life. <br><br>I remember when Pete Townsend was cited for accessing a kiddie porn site with his credit card he claimed he was "doing research for his autobiography." Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Well, from what I've heard Pete Townsend was molested as a child...which isn't saying there is useful information on a kiddie porn site but who am I to say.<br><br>And that white supremacy group has its headquarters in West Palm Beach, also rather odd as that is the part of Florida where Jews from the northeast go to retire.
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Posted By: <b>D Brown</b><p>Jerry wrote >> "If you look at their membership list you will not find my name or any contributions of any kind by me."<br><br>There's a registered user on stormfront with the username jsw600. Odds of a coincidence seem low. Though indeed the name Jerry Spillman is not actually found on the site.<br><br>I'm just a lowly lurker but Stormfront is so offensive that I'm ashamed it's even been brought up -- much less casually mentioned as a model of software -- on this fine forum. <br><br><br>David<br>
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I am sure the fact that Jerry Spillman's Network54.com login name is jsw600 and the fact you found a jsw600 registered on that hate site is merely coincidental. In order to lurk over there you have to participate....or er. it's just a site that takes donations.....something like that...
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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>From the Seinfeld episode, "George is getting angry" about this subject matter !!!
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Posted By: <b>Bilko G</b><p> I dunno if this has been answered yet or not, but are we gonna be allowed to post signature images and if so is there gonna be a KB limit on our images (I know some forums haved a KB limit on sigs, other do not, within reason of course)?<br><br> thanks, Bilko
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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>Is there going to be a seperate OT section, or will it be as it is now?
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Posted By: <b>Matt E.</b><p>Please make a separate section for OT. <br><br>
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>The sections will be exactly like they are today from day one. I don't know about the signature lines yet but I would imagine 1-2 would be available, if that is an option. We'll have to get over there and see what pans out and what the masses want...but the sections will (most likely) stay the same....regards
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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Personally I am against images in a person's signature. One in the avatar is enough.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I wasn't thinking "image" in sig line.....I agree, I doubt we want a million images all over the place....but generally speaking the inmates run this asylum so we shall see how it goes. I imagine there will be a learning curve of what we want and don't want...for a few months at least...
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Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p>I think what Dan is thinking about is all those HUGE Image signature lines you see on other boards which take forever to download and weed through. I love images inside posts that add to the conversation but I Hate sig line images.. that's just unnecessary fluff if you ask me.. <br><br>marty
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Posted By: <b>Doug</b><p>I like that idea about a separate O/T forum. That way the people that want to read that stuff can do it and those who don't won't have to worry about it cluttering up the main board.
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Posted By: <b>Dave Hornish</b><p>I also think a separate OT forum is a good idea. Just sayin'
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Posted By: <b>Tim</b><p>I guess I should say I'm in favor of a seperate O/T section and thus my question.<br><br>I think it would be a great outlet for board members that like to discuss things other than vintage cards with the people that frequent the board, and at the same time leave the main board free of any discussions other than vintage cards.
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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Once we get over to the new board we can look at how it's structured again. Right now it looks like there is a database issue on the transferring of data so we are looking at a work around. Let us get in our new home and get settled in a bit and we can take a look at it again. regards
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