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Posted By: BlackSoxFanGreg - Send away! Just remember to include all of your information and a list of what you have. Whenever you can that is fine. Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanHi Everyone - Steiner sports (<a href="http://www.steinersports.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.steinersports.com</a>/) has now signed on as an official sponsor. Joe Orlando and I are simply playing phone tag, but i believe they are soon to follow. We have some local press doing articles on us. If any of you don't mind calling local newspapers or providing us with the numbers for your local press..it would be great to get the word out! More updates to follow, the first shipment to the authenticators leaves tomorrow and hopefully we'll have some stuff up by the end of the week. Thanks to all who have donated so far! Keep it coming! Ted Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: MarkCMoking asked: "I want to ask tax issue questions on how this works. Let's say I donate a card and it sells for $100 final price. Am I able to deduct any of that as charitable donations?" If you donate the card, then your deduction is limited to the greater of (i) the card's value ($100 in your example) or (ii) what you can prove that you paid for the card. So if you paid $30 for the card (and can substantiate that amount), your deduction is $30. In the case of an appreciated card, you reach basically the same result as if you first sold the card and then donated the cash (in the above example, you get a $100 deduction but must also report $70 of gain).

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanMark - Astute point. However, with a little bit of luck we will be hired by the ARC to do the sales on their behalf. Even though they are going to hire us for free, it will make the full amount deductible..just give us some time and we'll do what we can. At the very least, we believe this will increase the value of the card, thus increasing the amount of the donation. Just remember, my company is going to be taking on all of the fees associated with listing and accepting funds .... something you will not take on! In other words it will be like a donation of the card to the ARC and thus you will get a full deduciton with no gain reported. Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: cmokingMark, Thanks for the clarification. Once I get all the paper work, I'll just dump it on the accountant's lap! Too complicated. I'm really excited about these auctions. I am hoping there will be a bunch of stuff that I am interested in...I would be more than happy to pay more for cards I want if I know the increased proceeds are going to ARC. I know there's no deduction from the buyer's side, but it would make me feel good.

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanCMOKING - I hope my staff emailed you. Quite a donation. I'm hoping with a some of the publicity i think we're about to get this thing might take off. I have talked to Joe Orlando and inbetween the time that we first talked and that he returned from vacation, Collectors Universe decided the best way to handle the situation (with us and others) was to donate cash straight up! Which i think is great. In the meantime, Joe and I are going to converse once again at the end of the week and see what can happen. In the meantime. I'll let you guys know what happens. I have a 10 o'clock phone call with Howard at GAI tomorrow and a bunch of other calls to make! CMOKING, once again, fantastic donation! Ted Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanWe have sent well over 200 cards out for authentication. As soon as we recieve some of them back in we will start running lots! Thanks everyone for your patience, we're hopping all the press releases we are about to release will really help boost the prices of these items! Thanks again everyone! Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanYou guys are great! We have recieved a few more written commitments and actually shipments from various board members! Keep em coming guys! We really appreciate everything and as always, let usk now if you have any questions. Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: AnsonThat probably explains why SGC is taking so long to get my stuff back. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: Scott ForrestI don't thing press release, etc., is going to help much, but I sure hope it does. What I've found is that people are looking for a good deal, period - if they want to donate to charity, they'll write a check. I just put a pool cue on ebay with 100% going to the Red Cross, and "Katrina Relief" in the header - even advertised on a billiards forum. Zip, zilch, nada...but we'll see when the auction ends. Good luck Ted!

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanYeah I'm not sure what type of press we'll get from this and if that press will do any good, but i'm a trying .... we've gotten some nice donations from non-board members but as of now the majority is from you guys. As soon as we get at least some of the stuff back from SGC i'm going to crank things up. It's actually a good thing b/c it's giving me some time to work out all of the other information and such..... long days ahead so if i'm not around on the board so much, at least you guys know why. TDG Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: AnsonTed, You should contact Ebay and see if you can get them to work with your outfit. They might be able to comp fees and give you a front gallery listing. Just a thought.

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanBoy oh boy anson...if you only knew, i have been trying to get someone at ebay on the phone since the day this started...SGC and PSA can't even get them on the phone. The people there don't seem to grasp the concept that we don't own the goods we are auctioning! I applaud missionfish/givingworks for their help but we are really hopping to get someone from eBay on the phone before we start this stuff in hopes of that. If not, we have made the commitment to move forward with the absorbing of Insertion Fees/Gallery Fees/Subtitle Fees/FVF/Transaction Fees (ie..paypal CC etc) .... and we will do what we can. It is amazing how many people have to be involved when all you want to do is write a big fat check! Lol..... Get on those guys at the psa board to start donating <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>!!! Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanA few people have asked me about the start date and why things haven't gone up and why is it taking so long for the red cross to get the money. These are all valuable points. I understand exactly where all of you are coming from so i want to address them each individually. As always, I'm not a mind reader, and i'm always available to chat and will always do my best to substantiate any question you may have. In the future, if anyone has a comment, please feel free to post or ask. On with the answer. Right now we have probably recieved around 250-300 cards and items in total, most of which have come from people within this forum. Approximately 40 of them were already graded, the rest were raw. As we all know, like it or not, graded cards sell better. This is in part due to the fact that people know they are unaltered (yes i know what many of you are thinking). In an auction environment, if any person sells an item and the buyer feels the item is not as described ... the customer might want to get a refund and such. Even if you as an individual are selling the item, if you sell a raw card for charity and then donate the money as soon as you receive it... what do you do when the customer picks up the phone a week later and complains? Do you take the item back.... then you have not only left yourself in a difficult position but also could be accused of fraud. Additionally, I know a good bit about cards, but i'm not an authenticator...i cannot garuntee all of the cards i have gotten in b/c they just fall out of my wheel house. As such, we are fortunate to have a company like SGC stepping up and helping us out here. This will insure the safety of the transaction, increase the sale price. This will allow us to make all sales final. I don't have an exact count right now b/c we have not had an opprotunity to enter each card into a database. We have all the lists and such. Thanks to a fellow board member (whose name i will use if he allows), we just received a database designed for tracking the status of all the cards and donations and such. Okay so now you ask... well if 200 to 300 cards are at the graders, why are we not moving forward with the sale of the other items? Well for a coule of reasons. First, many of the donations include cards from the same set .... some of them are raw and some are holdered. As such, we think it would generate the most money if we wait until we have all of those available at one time. Additonally, some people have donated cards from the same set. We have to keep these seperate. For example, if two people each donated half of the T206 set...we couldn't offer it as one lot b/c then we would have no way of truly saying which cards (and thus which donation) generated which portion of the sale price. Also, at this time, I am currently trying to work with the National Chapter of the red cross to arrange for us to be able to legally avoid using MissionFish. This is ebay's charitable wing that assits people in donating to charity. We have spoken on the phone with people at MissionFish (aka...giving works) and they have advised us in this manner as well. If we were to go through giving works.... $3.00 from EVERY auction lot would be lost. That three dollars would go to MF. They are also an non-profit but they still take money to cover their own costs. Also, the money we donate to them would go into an Escrow account for several weeks. I can explain why if anyone would like to know, but for now let's just leave it at that. So, although there seems to be a big delay in the start of this all, i can promise you that we are all working full time on this. The national chapter of the ARC is still recieving over 200,000 phone calls a day! The people there are working very hard, and their time is valuable. We have to work with them to make this happen and not the other way around. Also, one of the concerns is that while there is a tremendous amount of support for this cause, it is going to be a very long process for New Orleans to get back up to speed. As such, what happens in 3 months when the donations have slowed, if not stopped! I also hope that with the efforts of SGC and all those involved, people will pay a little more for these cards b/c they know what is happening with the money. Maybe that's idealistic, but that's what i hope. Lastly i think that people here might say, well if i had known all of this i would have just donated money or you'd still rather. Or better, "I would have just sold the card here on the board like i originally wanted to and the ARC would already have their money" If that is something that you feel strongly about, i am happy to return the cards to you. However, if they have already been sent into SGC, you will have to pay for the grading. I hope that people on eBay having access to these cards will mean that the cards will sell for more than what poeple where asking on here. I can assure you that you will all have proper documentation and reciepts for tax purposes in time for tax season. In the meantime, i hope this answers a lot of the questions out there. I also hope that people understand, i do not feel that if you havce not submitted to our auction that something is not right. Please understand, giving is what is important here..not how or what you give. I also urge any of you to call me day or night if you have any questions at alL! Don't wait for them to be answered and don't assume that i know your concerns unless you bring them to me. I will be working on this tomorrow until i leave town for the night. I have a personal matter to attend to. Some of you know what this is and i promise i would not be leaving this matter if it were not for good reason. I will be back on tuesday late morning to continue. In the meantime, i'm busy scanning all of the items we still ahve and preparing them for auction. Aks and i will answer. Call me any time you want. I'm up almost all the time except 4am-7:30am (or 8am sometimes) EST. Thanks for your time. Ted Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanHello Everyone - We want to give you an update. Most of the cards are still at SGC, and we will wait for their return. PSA has can't offer any services or gradings on our behalf. However, they will help promote the auction event in any way possible. Ted is still waiting to speak with GAI. We continue to thank and acknowledge SGC for their offer and they have really done a great thing. As this develops, we will continue to update you on the status and the initial offerings. We're hoping sooner than later. If you have an item that you would like to donate, but it is not available for authentication through SGC, please contact Ted directly and we will discuss the donation on a case by case basis. Thank you so much for your time. Regards, Bernard - iTailers Staff Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: Josh K.Wow, PSA isnt actually willing to offer anything to help out - who would have guessed? Just one more reason not to patronize their service.

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanPHONE CONTACT!!! WOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Dear Josh - I cannot comment on your post as i don't know much about it, just what Ted told me. As for a new update, we have finally gotten through on the phone with at least one person at eBay!!! Also, I know that a gentleman by the name of Anson is also trying to help on this. I just spoke with Ted on the phone and he asked that i mention we hope you continue your efforts Anson as we will need all the help we can get! Thanks again, Bernard - iTailers Staff Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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Posted By: BlackSoxFanIncase you guys would like to see a basic layout for our auctions..... <a href="http://www.itailers.com/auction-template.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.itailers.com/auction-template.html</a> Now some important notes, the top banner is going to be replace...the itailers name and the slogan will be replaced with the banner for our charity auction id : cards4hurricanerelief Also, we will adjust some of the policies and format b/c we are going to thank sponsors and some of our donors...i will thank the board as a whole and provide a link here for people! The best i can do is repay those kind actions with some advertising of sorts! Cheers! Regards, Black Sox Fan - - - - - - - - - I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know <a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a> <a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>