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Balticfox 01-23-2025 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Topps206 (Post 2490682)
To piggyback off this, not every athlete in my autograph collection has been a stellar human being in their lives. Just because I have their autograph doesn’t mean I worship them or condone any past misdeeds.

I'm with you on that point. I have zilch interest in players as human beings. To me they're just professional entertainers, no more and no less.

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Originally Posted by Topps206 (Post 2490682)
Also, even if people do worship/idolize, it’s none of my business if they do.

This though is a discussion forum. Meaning I'm free to snicker at the foibles of others. It's a right I've never been shy about exercising.

;)

Topps206 01-23-2025 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2490688)
I'm with you on that point. I have zilch interest in players as human beings. To me they're just professional entertainers, no more and no less.



This though is a discussion forum. Meaning I'm free to snicker at the foibles of others. It's a right I've never been shy about exercising.

;)

Okay, and you’ve seemed to insinuate in this thread how collecting has been financially ruinous for you. Should we be judgmental of you and snicker at you for such decisions?

Mark17 01-23-2025 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2490687)
Yeah, it certainly was. And I see you fellows have been largely successful in wiping out the use of French in Louisiana. But I understand you're still dealing with the demographic consequences of having grabbed Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California from Mexico. I have to smile at the irony.

Had we not managed to grab those great states, our "demographic consequences" would simply exist farther north. Being far wealthier than a neighbor will inevitably result in such problems, wherever the national border is drawn.

I realize you're trying to find a reason to smile, but our historical national territorial acquisitions have worked out rather well.

To bring us back on topic, Sandy Koufax likes California and prefers speaking English to Spanish or French.

Balticfox 01-23-2025 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Topps206 (Post 2490691)
Okay, and you’ve seemed to insinuate in this thread how collecting has been financially ruinous for you. Should we be judgmental of you and snicker at you for such decisions?

Anytime! I'm certainly man enough to admit to my failings.

Keep in mind though that I will nevertheless bite back when my tail is pulled.

;)

Balticfox 01-23-2025 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2490694)
To bring us back on topic, Sandy Koufax likes California and prefers speaking English to Spanish or French.

Ho, hum. Just like so many others. I'd be much more impressed if he spoke at least passable Latin.

Cutting to the chase though, I have Sandy Koufax's 1962 Canadian Post Cereal card, his 1962 Shirriff Baseball coin, his 1963 Salada Baseball coin and his 1964 Topps Baseball coins but I have only this single Koufax Topps card:

https://hosting.photobucket.com/85c5...b522c7c972.png

I'd like more of Sandy Koufax's Topps cards from 1957-65 to get further along toward completing those sets.

His autograph though? I'll pass on that. I'll also leave his sweaty old jerseys to others.

;)

Mark17 01-23-2025 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2490698)
Cutting to the chase though, I have Sandy Koufax's 1962 Topps card, his 1962 Canadian Post Cereal card, his 1962 Shirriff Baseball coin, his 1963 Salada Baseball coin and his 1964 Topps Baseball coins. Moreover I'd like more of Sandy Koufax's Topps cards from 1957-65 to get further along toward completing those sets.

Sounds like you idolize him, despite his linguistic shortcomings. :)

Lorewalker 01-24-2025 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NiceDocter (Post 2488651)
I had heard Mr Koufax was one of the unfortunate victims of the Bernie Madoff scam ….. I think he lost a lot of his money unfortunately and this may be a part of his current signing fee structure. God Bless him and all the other victims……

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/31/busin...ntl/index.html

I know of an extended family (3 generations) who lost a lot of money who were almost made whole. I do not know the specifics.

packs 01-24-2025 07:26 AM

I would think someone would find it more unreasonable to collect cardboard photos and fake coins than game used memorabilia.

Balticfox 01-24-2025 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark17 (Post 2490699)
Sounds like you idolize him, despite his linguistic shortcomings. :)

I have complete or near complete sets of all those issues I listed with the exception of the 1962 Topps. But his 1963 and 1965 Topps cards are indeed fairly high on my Want List since they're particularly nice looking.

I never really liked Sandy Koufax as a pitcher though. As a kid I was more a fan of Juan Marichal and Milt Pappas. These days my favourite pitchers from Koufax's era are Warren Spahn, Hoyt Wilhelm and Jim Bunning.

:)

And he still has time to crack open a Latin textbook or two....

;)

Balticfox 01-24-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 2490717)
I would think someone would find it more unreasonable to collect cardboard photos and fake coins than game used memorabilia.

Yeah from one standpoint maybe. But to me it's all about what I collected as a kid. Therefore it comes down to bubble gum cards, cereal box cards and the premium coins that were "Free Inside!" potato chips and dessert mixes.

;)

gonefishin 01-24-2025 10:29 AM

[QUOTE=Balticfox;2490538]No, no, never would I buy such a thing at any price! I'm a Canadian and that bastard George Washington was our implacable enemy. Washington led his Virginia (British) militiamen in a raid against the Canadien Fort Duquesne thus starting the French and Indian War of 1754-1763.

Mr. Baltifox, I just saw a For Sale listing in the want ads that might interest you;

"For sale: Original Canadian 1763 Military C14 Timberwolf rifle, like new, never fired – dropped once."

You might be able to get it pretty cheap - there are plenty available in the United States.

Balticfox 01-24-2025 11:26 PM

The Canadiens actually gave a good account of themselves during the French and Indian War:

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Originally Posted by French and Indian War - Wikipedia
At the start of the war, the French colonies had a population of roughly 60,000 settlers, compared with 2 million in the British colonies.

But George Washington? Not so much:

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Originally Posted by Fort Duquesne - Wikipedia
(George) Washington, who was lieutenant colonel in the newly created Virginia Regiment (My Note: At the tender age of 22! :rolleyes:), set out on April 2, 1754, with a small force to build a road to, and then defend, Fort Prince George. Washington was at Wills Creek in north central Maryland when he received news of the fort's surrender. On May 28, Washington encountered a Canadian scouting party near a place now known as Jumonville Glen (several miles east of present-day Uniontown). Washington attacked the French Canadians, killing 10 in the early morning hours, and took 21 prisoners, of whom many were ritually killed by the Native American allies of the British. On May 31, Washington replaced Colonel Joshua Fry as commander of the Virginia Regiment after Colonel Fry died en route to Wills Creek.

The Battle of Jumonville Glen is widely considered the formal start of the French and Indian War, the North American front of the Seven Years' War.

Washington ordered construction of Fort Necessity at a large clearing known as the Great Meadows. On 3 July 1754, the counterattacking French and Canadians forced Washington to surrender Fort Necessity. After disarming them, they released Washington and his men to return home.

Although Fort Duquesne's location at the forks looked strong on a map—controlling the confluence of three rivers—the reality was rather different. The site was low, swampy, and prone to flooding. In addition, the position was dominated by highlands across the Monongahela River, which would allow an enemy to bombard the fort with ease. Pécaudy de Contrecœur was preparing to abandon the fort in the face of Braddock's advance in 1755. He was able to retain it due to the advancing British force being annihilated (see below). When the Forbes expedition approached in 1758, the French had initial success in the Battle of Fort Duquesne against the English vanguard, but were forced to abandon the fort in the face of the much superior size of Forbes' main force.

The French held the fort successfully early in the war, turning back the expedition led by General Edward Braddock during the 1755 Battle of the Monongahela. George Washington served as one of General Braddock's aides. A smaller attack by James Grant in September 1758 was repulsed with heavy losses.

Two months later, on November 25, 1758, the Forbes Expedition under the Scotsman General John Forbes took possession Fort Duquesne after the French destroyed and abandoned the site.

So the French Canadiens let the Virginian Brit aristocrat go after capturing him. Unbelievable! Certainly not what the bastard deserved.

:mad:

Mark17 01-25-2025 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox (Post 2490872)

So the French Canadiens let the Virginian Brit aristocrat go after capturing him. Unbelievable! Certainly not what the bastard deserved.

:mad:

And George later reciprocated by teaming with the French to defeat the Brits at Yorktown.

I'll rely on Lafayette's opinion of Washington over that of a disgruntled French-Canadian who collects pictures of men who threw baseballs effectively with their left hand.


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