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Thanks Jay and nice Cicotte yourself Daniel--thanks for either not bidding or stopping short. The 1916 card prices were modest compared to the 1921's. I got skunked on the Herps, not in the ballpark on most or even in the nearby parking lot on others. Really wanted the Hooper but it was not to be and they all ended up beyond my reach. Oh well, the Morehouse hit the spot for me, and I could even have a few $$$ left over to spend on the Holidays, assuming my computer crashes and I can't bid on any more auctions beforehand.
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OT and of course not picked up in the auction, but my three favorite Sisler cards.
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I was very happy to pick up the Crawford fielding T206 SGC 3.5 and a couple of E98s for old time feelings.......
The Crawford gets it down to 48 to go to tame The Monster. On another note, does anyone have any idea how the E98 Chase in a 3 went for over a grand??? Phil, or other E98 folks, do you have any idea what I might be missing? Just seemed really high! Tim Kindler |
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Congrats on winning this nice looking Sisler card in LOTG. However, the bottom border leads me to very strongly suspect that SGC erred in identifying this as a W575-1 card. Rather, I suspect it is a W501 Type 2 card, which I don't think has yet been recognized by the TPGs. I believe Rhett Y. is the resident expert re these W501 cards - perhaps he will chime in. As many are aware, I'm an avid collector of Sam Rice cards, and I have examples of his W575-1, W501 Type 1, and W501 Type 2 cards. I have a duplicate of Rice's W501 Type 2 card, and it is currently listed on eBay. In my eBay listing I have info regarding the differences in these cards, which may interest you: https://www.ebay.com/itm/354418082729 |
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I managed to snag the E125 Speaker, the OJ proof of O'Neil and the '39 Playball autographed card of Bill Dickey and the RC of Frank Robinson. |
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I have dug into the material more and I believe you are right. I would not have known this if you had not pointed it out, so thank you. I am still happy with the purchase. It is a great image of Sisler. I am not sure how to feel with this new knowledge. SGC/PSA not knowing how to label this variation/type is not really surprising to be honest. |
Congratulations to the winners of any Old Judge proofs. I think there were either too many in the same auction and/or the starting bids on many of them were too high. Six did not receive any bids, six received one bid, and six received more than one bid...and of those six, only two had what I would call "spirited bidding" (Holbert and Bierbauer/Gamble).
I imagine either the consignor and/or Al decided on selling that many with high starting bids, and I can understand worrying that if you start too low it will sell too low, but in hindsight (which of course is 20-20) I think it may have worked against the cards. I really like them, as I see do some others, but the market may be a little thin to absorb that many at once. |
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Thanks for your kind words. I agree that your Sisler card has a great batting image of Sisler. And, I would guess that your W501 Type 2 card is scarcer than Sisler's W575-1 card. Hopefully, in time, the TPGs will come around to recognizing these cards. |
Sisler is a very interesting player, a huge disparity between how he was traditionally viewed when I was younger and how he's viewed through the lens of more modern metrics. Great information anyhow on the nuances of some of the issues.
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The Orange Chase carries a premium and the Blue even more so since they were not part of BSF, harder to find original circulation cards in those colors in relatively good grades. It was a strong price but it only takes a couple of guys working on the color/set to move it up. That Chase, the Blue Wagner, Red Young, and Orange Bridwell, were part of a recent 6 card find that was new to the hobby, I'm happy for the consignors and the collector that helped them along the way. Congrats to whoever picked up the Orange Coombs, which was my consignment along with a dozen others, and one of the rarest player/color combos of the set. Best of luck finishing the Monster, quite an accomplishment. -Phil |
Nice Shoulderless, Star Player and W503, Brian. Those are some toughies!
With so much Sisler eye candy, I didn't recognize the W501-2 v. W575-1 error in the flip. Congrats on what is likely an even tougher card, Don! |
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I was trying for a few other things but this was my lone winner.
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I couldn’t agree with you more. The bidding process was definitely a bit excessive. When the auction hits 1 am and heads into double overtime it should 100% go into a 15 minute clock for each individual remaining lot in my opinion |
Great Insight Phil
Tim,
The Orange Chase carries a premium and the Blue even more so since they were not part of BSF, harder to find original circulation cards in those colors in relatively good grades. It was a strong price but it only takes a couple of guys working on the color/set to move it up. That Chase, the Blue Wagner, Red Young, and Orange Bridwell, were part of a recent 6 card find that was new to the hobby, I'm happy for the consignors and the collector that helped them along the way. Congrats to whoever picked up the Orange Coombs, which was my consignment along with a dozen others, and one of the rarest player/color combos of the set. Best of luck finishing the Monster, quite an accomplishment. -Phil Thanks for your insight Phil and your best wishes on finishing the T206 set..... It's not the amount of cards left that will take time, but it's the $ amount that is left to spend on completing this set that is scary and time consuming. Take care, Tim |
Many thanks to Val and Al from LOTG for reaching out on the Sisler card.
Both are class acts, but I am sure many of you knew this. I am hoping to have the W575-1 (likely really W501 Type 2) card in hand by Friday. If I do, I will take it to the Philadelphia card show and talk to some folks at SGC about it. If not, I will hope to have a nice discussion with them in Cleveland at next years National. It is a great card and I want it regardless of its designation. Many thanks to those who chimed in as well -Don |
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Just curious about your statement, Peter... Was Sisler viewed as a better player years ago, or is he viewed in higher regard nowadays? I wasn't (and am still not) sure how to interpret the "huge disparity" aspect. Thanks! |
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I can't believe Peter is lending support (at least implicitly) to an article critical of a fellow Wolverine. :eek: Truly a sad day.
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I think the consignor must have insisted on an opening bid of $2k on the PSA1 John Ward (in full dress) OJ. There were no bids and LOTG and the consignor both lose out. I believe that is a $750 card. Shame.
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There must be some new blood collecting Old Judge cards, I would be surprised if current collectors paid those prices.
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I wanted the McMullen but the Swede is a solid consolation. Love the little bits of coupon at the bottom too.
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I will be ecstatic if the prices weren't a one-off. Mine seem nicer than the comps I was watching, and the comps all went over, or way over what I was thinking they'd get. I already thought I got an absolute steal. Now, it looks insane. Those Old Judge proofs are super cool. I'm surprised they didn't go for more. |
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Congratulations on the Risberg. |
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Hola Ian. Send me some pics from DH! I miss it |
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Really thrilled to be adding this! One of the coolest Ruth images I've ever seen! And from 1916 type 1!
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SGC 1 because of back damage but a beautiful front.
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The card is really nice for a "1". It's one of those "1"s that people would take at the right price. The pin hole at the bottom isn't that glaring of an issue. Very nice image. Only thing is, nobody wants to pay a premium for a "1" grade on a common HOFer (even with a nice image). |
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Totally forgot about this one.
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And funny you should mention Ryan, I was just there again about 2 weeks ago. Much warmer than Anchorage. Attachment 598930 Attachment 598929 |
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Hey there. I’m wondering, is there any chance you know where that orange Coombs ended up? I’m looking for that to complete my set of my uncle! Thanks in advance! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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