Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2273825)

The 1986 Fleer Jordan is a unique situation. I do not believe that those few outstanding results on the 10s were genuine sales, but setting those aside, the card is suffering from a unique problem: PSA is grading the Star cards. The 86 Fleer is really Jordan's third year card in a licensed set. He has multiple Star cards that age or older. Until recently, they could be ignored, but not with PSA adding them in. That has really driven down the sales on the 1986 Fleer.

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2273827)

Is Michael Jordan still famous? Was he that guy in the Tom Hanks movie, The Green Mile? I can't imagine buying his basketball card today. I don't understand the new card hobby. People pay 10 grand for Mac Jones cards. It's a different hobby post about 1936.

Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2273828)

I don’t see the difference here. Ruth, Cobb or MJ, the absolute best and most popular demand the highest price. I don’t see why we would expect MJ not to be at or near the top of basketball cards? I agree prospecting and the huge prices for guys who haven’t accomplished much is nuts, but what does Michael Jordan have to do with that?

Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2273831)

Might be a touch of sarcasm in that previous post that is confusing you…

Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2273834)

Yes I’m well aware the claim Jordan is the guy in Green Mile and isn’t famous is a joke. No shit :rolleyes:. What I said is about the last three sentences about the modern hobby and its differences.

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2273837)

Do not apologize, Nic. Someone finally agreed with me on here after 20 years.

Originally Posted by raulus (Post 2273835)

Apologies for spoiling your repartee.

Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2273839)

I’ve agreed with you a few times. Uh oh…. Am I crazy?

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie (Post 2273843)

No, I read too much James Joyce in high school and it has clouded my ability to communicate.

Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2273825)

Some random thoughts:

The multiple cards thing doesn't bother me when each card is at a different level. I don't think the people in the market for a PSA 8 Hank Aaron RC pay any attention to the 3 in the same auction, and vice versa. Personally, I appreciate having cards at different price points available to me. I track about 100 vintage cards and even when there are multiples it does not seem to affect the prices unless there are multiples of the same grade.

The 1986 Fleer Jordan is a unique situation. I do not believe that those few outstanding results on the 10s were genuine sales, but setting those aside, the card is suffering from a unique problem: PSA is grading the Star cards. The 86 Fleer is really Jordan's third year card in a licensed set. He has multiple Star cards that age or older. Until recently, they could be ignored, but not with PSA adding them in. That has really driven down the sales on the 1986 Fleer.