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I'll say this much:

We've seen prices come down on everything with the exception of high end vintage. Interest in the hobby is always a good thing, I will never complain about that. What I don't like is cards being looked at as an investment, that just isn't for me. I don't "invest" in cards, I collect them. This is something I've said time and time again. It would take a lot for me to part with one of my cards. That could also be because my collection is smaller in comparison to most of the users on here.

The sky high prices, are what they are. Me complaining about them, won't change it. I still enjoy the hobby, I plan on collecting for a long time, this is a hobby of patience and time. Deal with the good and the bad.

The guy with the jet was taking millions in inventory and $500K in cash with him. If I had that sort of stuff to haul a private jet would be the way to do it. Hell, if I ever decide to move farther than a drive away thats how my modest by comparison collection will go with me. With armed logistics at both ends of the trip and a safe deposit box waiting at the destination city.

As far as the boom (and bust), you know what they say: never wrong, only early.

I don't buy the it is all manipulated stuff. The prices we saw over the weekend in Love of the Game were not shilled, they were real collectors buying cards. Al is as proactive and honest as it gets when it comes to shilling and other games. I trust his integrity to run a clean auction. I've already spoken with some of the winners and underbidders of some of the expensive cards and they are all legit. There is definitely a degree of thievery out there but it is not all-encompassing. If you believe otherwise, just walk away, because this obviously is causing you more distress than enjoyment.

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 2140131)

I think the time has come for an "index" or list of the most commonly shilled cards.

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Originally Posted by 68Hawk (Post 2138919)

No one has complained??????
Do you read this forum?
EVERY OTHER BLOODY THREAD descends into this caterwauling of the ruination of the hobby, the deviousness of its backyard doctors, the looming price crash that must be inevitable...Good lord man, are you freakin serious?

Secondly, it's absolute rubbish that kids have been priced out of card collecting.
Buying boxes and packs? Sure, way to expensive for most.
But the individual cards themselves have never been more available or nearly as cheap as 99.5% of ALL CARDS LISTED ON EBAY. You even get to pick and choose exactly who you'd like to look at every day instead of simply filling a 9 pocket holder with players you thumb past with little to no interest.
Seriously, if you take out the high end cards (mainly rookies) of the very best players, you can collect by teams or sets for very very VERY little money.

This idea that because you can't afford a Mantle, or Gehrig, or Jeter rook, or current day heartthrob in one of their important issues relegates ALL collecting to nothingness and beyond young collectors is ridiculous.

If you are ok collecting non contemporaneous card issues of HOF players, then even then the options are innumerable to add cards of your favorite players to your collection.

This silliness you parrot needs to stop.
Just please, stop.
It's not true, and doesn't even make any sense.:mad:

Both Posts , Very Well Articulated!!

For all the conspiracy theorist- "it looks trimmed, its been shilled , or PWCC prices aren't real" please , by all means , start discounting your for sale cards , so they don't reflect the recent "sales" .
Dang people, its a hobby.