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This is fun to follow Mike. I'm pulling for you to make your money back at the very least.
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That being said, with less than half the sets even listed, and only a few sales, I've already got 12.9% of the initial investment back. It'll take some time. but I expect we'll get there, and hopefully have a few PSA subs to boot. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 45 complete sets listed on eBay 53 to be reviewed 2 sets sold 2 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $7.58 reclaimed (12.9%) |
The last posting completed the 1994 sets...on to 1992!
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Starting 1992!
1992 Fleer ProCards San Bernardino Spirit 1992 Fleer ProCards Huntington Cubs 1992 Fleer ProCards Madison Muskies The Spirit included Mike Hampton, Jim Mecir, and manager Ivan DeJesus. The Cubs of Huntington don't have any names that jump out at me in the set. The Muskies feature Creighton Gubanich and not much else. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 48 complete sets listed on eBay 50 to be reviewed 2 sets sold 2 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $7.58 reclaimed (12.9%) |
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LOL, I'm glad you could pull Creighton Gubanich out of a line-up...because I sure couldn't. |
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1992 Fleer ProCards GCL Dodgers 1992 Fleer ProCards Charlotte Rangers 1992 Fleer ProCards Charleston Wheelers The Dodgers had Miguel Cairo on their roster and Red Sox great Luis Tiant as their pitching coach. The Rangers were managed by Bump Wills. The Wheelers had Kevin Jarvis and Pokey Reese. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 51 complete sets listed on eBay 47 to be reviewed 2 sets sold 2 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $7.58 reclaimed (12.9%) |
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But the main reason I'm posting is to say that there is a "notable" card in the Huntington Cubs set - Amaury Telemaco. That name rang a bell and I looked him up on Baseball Reference. He pitched for around 9 years in the majors getting into over 200 games. He was a real stud with a -0.9 career WAR. I also looked into the Madison Muskies set and there is no one who stands out to me, not even Gubanich. I had to look him up, never heard of him before. Good luck and keep posting! |
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I've always loved minor league sets...I have bought a LOT over the years...for autographs, for rare/interesting cards of stars, and just for fun. Quote:
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A couple more:
1992 Fleer ProCards Charlotte Knights 1992 Fleer ProCards Prince William Cannons The Knights had Steve Trachsel, Matt Walbeck, and Matt Franco. The Cannons feature Ron Frazier, Andy Fox, Kevin Jordan, Tim Garland, and Lyle Mouton. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 53 complete sets listed on eBay 44 to be reviewed 2 sets sold 2 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $7.58 reclaimed (12.9%) |
Another sale:
1994 ProCards Louisville Redbirds Sold for $3.99 plus $3.99 shipping. Shipping cost $3.35, so minus shipping, eBay fees, and the original 60 cent cost of the set, that's $2.68 profit. That $2.68 pays for roughly 4 1/2 set purchases. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 53 complete sets listed on eBay 44 to be reviewed 3 sets sold 2 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $10.26 reclaimed (17.5%) |
Someone bought THREE sets!
1993 ProCards Waterloo Diamonds 1993 ProCards Columbus Clippers 1993 ProCards Appleton Foxes $3.99 each plus $5.99 combined shipping ($3.99 plus $1 per set) for a total sale of $17.96. Shipping cost me $3.57. Figure in $2.51 in eBay fees, and the original price of the sets and I've got a $10.08 profit here! So, with six sets sold (and a couple lots from other sets) we've resold about 6% of the lot and have made back 34.5% of our investment. Not a bad start! 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 53 complete sets listed on eBay 44 to be reviewed 6 sets sold 2 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $20.34 reclaimed (34.5%) |
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1992 Fleer ProCards Edmonton Trappers 1992 Fleer ProCards Fort Myers Miracle 1992 Fleer ProCards Jackson Generals The headliner for the Trappers is Tim Salmon, but the team also featured a bunch of other names...Mike Butcher, Willie Frasier, Damion Easley, Ken Oberkfell, and Phil Bradley. The Miracle don't have any names that jump out at me. The Generals featured Todd Jones. Also on the team was Roberto Petagine...and not a lot of other names I recognize. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 56 complete sets listed on eBay 41 to be reviewed 6 sets sold 2 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $20.34 reclaimed (34.5%) |
Sold another 2-card lot from the 1993 ProCards Vancouver Canadians set, this time of manager Max Oliveras.
$1.99 w/ free shipping...for a 92 cent profit after shipping and fees. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 56 complete sets listed on eBay 41 to be reviewed 6 sets sold 2 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $21.26 reclaimed (36.1%) |
Just had someone buy FIVE sets!
1993 ProCards Spokane Indians 1992 ProCards Gulf Coast Dodgers 1994 ProCards Columbus RedStixx 1994 ProCards Burlington Indians 1994 ProCards Rockford Royals $3.99 each times 5 = $19.95. I combined shipping at $7.99 for a total of $27.94. I upgraded the seller to priority shipping as a thank you for the order, which cost me $7.67. After shipping, ebay fees, and original cost of the 5 sets is figured in, that's a profit of $13.53 ($2.70 per set)! That puts us over 59% of our initial investment recouped, with only 11 sets sold, 3 lots sold, and 41 more sets to list! 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 56 complete sets listed on eBay 41 to be reviewed 11 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $34.79 reclaimed (59.2%) |
A few more listed:
1992 Fleer ProCards Frederick Keys 1992 Fleer ProCards Gastonia Rangers The Keys had Joe Borowski and Gregg Zaun. The Rangers had Danny Patterson and Benji Gil. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 58 complete sets listed on eBay 39 to be reviewed 11 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $34.79 reclaimed (59.2%) |
A couple more sets listed:
1992 Fleer ProCards Auburn Astros 1992 Fleer ProCards St. Petersburg Cardinals The Astros had Chris Holt and Doug Mlicki. The Cardinals had Brian Barber, who while not much of a name, was the only one I recognized here. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 60 complete sets listed on eBay 38 to be reviewed 11 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $34.79 reclaimed (59.2%) |
A couple more listed:
1992 Fleer ProCards Helena Brewers 1992 Fleer ProCards Columbus Redstixx The Baby Brewers didn't have any names I recognized. The Red Stixx had Paul Shuey and Pete Rose Jr. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 62 complete sets listed on eBay 36 to be reviewed 11 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $34.79 reclaimed (59.2%) |
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1992 ProCards Charlotte Rangers Sold for $3.99 with $3.99 s/h. Postage cost $3.06. After postage, fees, and initial set cost, profit was $3.04! 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 62 complete sets listed on eBay 36 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $37.83 reclaimed (64.4%) |
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1992 Fleer ProCards Portland Beavers 1992 Fleer ProCards Huntington Cubs The Beavers had Willie Banks, Pat Mahomes, Mike Trombley, David West, Danny Sheaffer, and Chip Hale. The Cubs don't have any names I recognize. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 64 complete sets listed on eBay 34 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $37.83 reclaimed (64.4%) |
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1992 Fleer ProCards Peninsula Pilots 1992 Fleer ProCards Billings Mustangs The Pilots had Desi Relaford, Bubba Smith, and Darren Bragg. The Mustangs had Eric Owens and Chad Mottola. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 66 complete sets listed on eBay 32 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $37.83 reclaimed (64.4%) |
Another sale...from the 1994 Albany-Colonie Yankees set, this time a 2-card lot of Jim Wiley. I made a $1.79 offer when someone watched the item and they purchased.
At $1.79 minus 0.53 shipping and eBay fees gives us a profit of 74 cents. That pushes us past 65% of initial cost reclaimed....not a bad start! 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 66 complete sets listed on eBay 32 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $38.57 reclaimed (65.6%) |
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1992 Fleer ProCards Columbus Clippers 1992 Fleer ProCards Huntsville Stars The Clippers featured Shawn Hillegas, David Rosario, Russ Springer, Bob Wickman, Brad Ausmus, Dave Sax, Torey Lovullo, Hensley Meulens, JT Snow, Gerald Williams, and Bernie Williams. Bernie Williams was a borderline PSA sub consideration, but not sure it'd be worthwhile. Maybe someone who thinks it'd be worth it will buy the set! The Stars feature Dana Allison, Mike Mohler, Kurt Abbott, Craig Paquette, and Eric Fox. 100 sets 2 opened / singles to be listed 68 complete sets listed on eBay 30 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $38.57 reclaimed (65.6%) |
Mike, if this helps your math at all...
...unless I'm having a brain fart...and it's entirely possible :D ... ...you've already adjusted for the cost of the sets in each transaction by listing the $58.74 original purchase price. If you're keeping track based on what has been "reclaimed", you don't need to deduct the original purchase price of each transaction because you've already done that. All your other deductions/additions (fees, shipping, etc..) are relevant...but that one should not be, IMO. You've technically, not actually made a profit, until you exceed the $58.74 purchase price...but I think you're closer to that goal then you think you are. Just my "2 cents" ;) , and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, or have explained that horribly. |
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It's probably the latter...where I'm calling it "total reclaimed", I should be calling it "total profit". |
Found another set with a card that stuck my interest.
The 1993 Procards Birmingham Barons set has a few recognizable names on it, with the biggest player probably being Ray Durham. I was actually after the manager of that minor league squad, Terry Francona. I think Francona is a HOF manager, and figured this would be a fun card to sub. I am likely in the majority on that opinion (PSA pop zero), but the card looks good enough to go into my "future sub" pile. This isn't the first pop zero Francona card I've subbed to PSA...but that's a story for another day! The rest of the set gets listed on eBay, at $1.69 each since they're only one card and not two card lots. LINK 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 68 complete sets listed on eBay 30 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $38.57 reclaimed (65.6%) |
Another 1994 ProCards Albany-Colonie Yankees 2-card lot sold, this time of manager Bill Evers. This set is proving quite lucrative.
$1.99 minus shipping and fees gives us 92 cents profit. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 68 complete sets listed on eBay 30 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $39.49 reclaimed (67.2%) |
Moving into 1991!
1991 ProCards Columbus Clippers 1991 ProCards Princeton Reds The Clippers have a lot of recognizable names. The highlight is Bernie Williams. The lowlight is Steve Howe. In between there are Torey Lovullo, Pat Kelly, and a bunch of relievers. The Reds have Kevin Jarvis and Pokey Reese. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 70 complete sets listed on eBay 28 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $39.49 reclaimed (67.2%) |
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1991 ProCards Fort Lauderdale Yankees 1991 ProCards Elizabethton Twins This Yankees team featured Larry Walker....well, not THAT Larry Walker, but still. Kevin Jordan, Russ Springer, Tim Garland. The Twins had Eddie Guardado and not much else! 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 72 complete sets listed on eBay 26 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $39.49 reclaimed (67.2%) |
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1991 ProCards Peninsula Pilots 1991 ProCards Williamsport Bills The Pilots don't have any names that jump out at me. The Bills have are headlined by Jeromy Burnitz, but also had John Johnstone, Alan Zinter, Tim Bogar, DJ Dozier, and manager Clint Hurdle. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 74 complete sets listed on eBay 24 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 3 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $39.49 reclaimed (67.2%) |
A couple more sales:
1993 ProCards Vancouver Canadians Lenn Sakata #2615 - 2 Card Lot 1994 ProCards Albany-Colonie Yankees Brian Faw #1435 - 2 Card Lot 1993 ProCards Vancouver Canadians Hilly Hathaway #2590 - 2 Card Lot After shipping and fees, we get $2.76 in profit from the trio. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 74 complete sets listed on eBay 24 to be reviewed 12 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $42.25 reclaimed (71.9%) |
This is a lot of fun. :)
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Another set sold:
1993 ProCards Ft. Lauderdale Red Sox $3.99 plus $3.99 shipping. Shipping cost $3.12, so after shipping and fees we're looking at a profit of $2.98. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 74 complete sets listed on eBay 24 to be reviewed 13 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $45.23 reclaimed (77%) |
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993 ProCards Birmingham Barons MIKE ROJAS #1210 I had this listed at $1.69 and when someone "watched" it, I offered 10% off. So, a whopping $1.52 sale! After shipping and fees, that still gives me a 50 cent profit...which I'll take for a 28 year old card of a minor league coach! 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 74 complete sets listed on eBay 24 to be reviewed 13 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $45.73 reclaimed (77.8%) |
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1994 ProCards Pawtucket Red Sox Minor League Team Set $3.99 plus $3.99 shipping. After $3.31 shipping, original set cost, and fees, we get a profit of $2.79. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 74 complete sets listed on eBay 24 to be reviewed 13 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $48.52 reclaimed (82.6%) |
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1993 ProCards Clearwater Phillies $3.99 with $3.99 shipping. It cost $3.33 to ship, so with fees, set purchase price, and all that, profit is $2.77. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 74 complete sets listed on eBay 24 to be reviewed 15 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $51.29 reclaimed (87.3%) |
A few 1991 sets listed:
1991 Procards Denver Zephyrs 1991 ProCards Dunedin Blue Jays 1991 ProCards Bristol Tigers The Zephyrs had Cal Eldred, Chris George, Doug Henry, and Tim McIntosh. The Blue Jays had Graeme Lloyd and former Red Sox Bill Monbouquette as their PC. The Tigers had Trever Miller and Justin Thompson. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 77 complete sets listed on eBay 21 to be reviewed 15 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $51.29 reclaimed (87.3%) |
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1993 ProCards Jacksonville Suns The buyer "watched" the item and I shot an offer @ $2.99, and they accepted my offer. $2.99 plus $3.99 shipping, with it costings $3.42 to ship - after fees that gives us a profit of $1.80. We've now made back over 90% of our initial investment! 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 77 complete sets listed on eBay 21 to be reviewed 16 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $53.09 reclaimed (90.3%) |
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1994 ProCards Auburn Astros Sold for $3.99 plus $3.99 shipping. After $3.74 shipping and fees, profit is $2.36. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 77 complete sets listed on eBay 21 to be reviewed 17 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $55.45 reclaimed (94.3%) |
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1991 ProCards Springfield Cardinals 1991 ProCards Martinsville Phillies 1991 ProCards South Bend White Sox The Cardinals don't have any names of note. The Phillies also don't have any names that jump out at me. The South Bend White Sox have Jason Bere, Domingo Jean, and Kevin Tolar. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 80 complete sets listed on eBay 17 to be reviewed 17 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $55.45 reclaimed (94.3%) |
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1991 ProCards Lynchburg Red Sox 1991 ProCards Edmonton Trappers The Red Sox had Gar Finnvold and not much else. The Trappers had Kyle Abbott, Mike Fetters, Ed Vosberg, Chad Curtis, Gary DiSarcina, Ruben Amaro, and Lee Stevens. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 82 complete sets listed on eBay 15 to be reviewed 17 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $55.45 reclaimed (94.3%) |
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1991 ProCards Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Red Barons 1991 ProCards Eugene Emeralds Red Barons had Andy Ashby, Bruce Ruffin, Darrin Fletcher, Kim Batiste, Dave Hollins, and Wes Chamberlain. The Emeralds had Joe Randa. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 84 complete sets listed on eBay 13 to be reviewed 17 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $55.45 reclaimed (94.3%) |
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1991 ProCards Nashville Sounds 1991 ProCards Kenosha Twins The Sounds featured Freddie Benavides, Reggie Jefferson, and Keith Lockhart. The Twins had Todd Ritchie and Denny Hocking. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 88 complete sets listed on eBay 9 to be reviewed 17 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $55.45 reclaimed (94.3%) |
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1991 ProCards Kane County Cougars 1991 ProCards Las Vegas Stars The Cougars featured Gregg Zaun. The Stars had Ricky Bones, John Costello, Pat Clements, Derek Lilliquist, Scott Coolbaugh, Ed Romero, Craig Shipley, and Thomas Howard. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 90 complete sets listed on eBay 7 to be reviewed 17 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $55.45 reclaimed (94.3%) |
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1991 ProCards St. Lucie Mets 1991 ProCards Osceola Astros The Mets had Brook Fordyce and Curtis Pride. The Astros included Todd Jones and Brian Hunter. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 92 complete sets listed on eBay 5 to be reviewed 17 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $55.45 reclaimed (94.3%) |
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1991 ProCards Everett Giants 1991 ProCards Birmingham Barons The Giants don't have any names that jump out at me. The Barons had Wilson Alvarez, Chris Howard, John Hudek, Ron Coomer, and Derek Lee BTW, didn't mention this earlier, but I gifted three Braves affiliate sets to a friend, so that's now every set either opened, listed, or gifted. 100 sets 3 opened / singles to be listed 94 complete sets listed on eBay 3 sets gifted to a friend 0 to be reviewed 17 sets sold 6 lots sold $58.74 original purchase $55.45 reclaimed (94.3%) |
I saw this thread when new and have not come back until today. Gotta like that you have pretty much made back your initial investment, minus your time, of course. When dealing with cards, most of my time is considered entertainment, so I'd be happy with whatever I kept from the lot and still getting back every penny I spent! Congrats!
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Yes, cards are entertainment for sure - making back part of the money invested isn’t worth it from a time perspective, but it’s part of the fun. I often look at card purchases of packs, sets to break, etc with a thought to “how many hours will this entertain me…then I compare the cost to going to the movies, out to dinner, a show, etc…usually the cards are cheaper per hour of amusement than other options! |
have enjoyed reading about your project. It's amazing how you're finding a market for these cards. And you are doing better than you think, because your accounting is flawed.
There are two ways to do the accounting. The first and easiest way is to take cash in less cash out. Your cash in so far is about $66. This is what you received from ebay. Your cash out is the $58.74 initial investment. So you are up $7 already. The other way to do it is set by set. For the sets and lots you've sold, you have netted a $55.45 profit. Your 80 unsold sets cost you 59 cents each or about $48 so you have a loss on those so far. The net again is about $7. So congratulations! You are already in the black on your project. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk |
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And yeah, I think I was trying to be TOO conservative with my math and ended up kind of double-counting the expense. It's crazy to think about how much this little lot will eventually pay back...even if i need to discount some of the sets and cards to get them gone. Anyway, not getting rich on this, but it's been fun to show you can make your money back! |
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