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It would be pretty cool if they were the Naps again. Drum up some interest in old time pre-war baseball.
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French Canadians (also referred to as Canadiens; French: Canadiens français, pronounced [kanadjɛ̃ fʁɑ̃sɛ]; feminine form: Canadiennes françaises, pronounced [kanadjɛn fʁɑ̃sɛz]), or Franco-Canadians (French: Franco-Canadiens), are an ethnic group who trace their ancestry to French colonists who settled in Canada from the 17th century onward. Today, people of French heritage make up the majority of native speakers of French in Canada, who in turn account for about 22 per cent of the country's total population. |
Actually, that is exactly what I meant, it is believed that is the first time the term "ticket scalping" was widely used in baseball, when people were charging extra to see Sockalexis play (although it was surely used before that).
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Cleveland . . . uh . . . Browns?
I guess the owners of the storied Cleveland Browns franchise will be next to follow suit. Brown - while not explicitly a racist term, but a color - still could be judged by the PC crowd as targeting people of a certain skin color. Where does this madness end?
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Throw out the good and bring in the bad like the “Cleveland Rocks”. Cleveland may go through a few name changes to settle on one the remaining fans like.
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Not entirely true. Lajoie did not jump to the Federal League, putting his team in a bad spot. He was traded to the Philadelphia A's after a poor season. The owner was not caught off guard. It is possible and perhaps likely the team remained the Naps out of deference to Lajoie even after his skills had waned, but they had been called by other nicknames after Sockalexis had gone.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion on this and any other topic of course, but please don’t make the mistake in thinking that by being a Cleveland supporter, or baseball fan, or knowing someone who is of Native American heritage makes your opinion count.
The owners of the team have consulted with their communities and what they have decided to do, counts. Not what you or I believe. We don’t get a vote. |
My dad went to the University of Minnesota, and I'd tease him about the gopher mascot. "Why couldn't it be something tough, like the Badgers or the Wolverines? Heck, even a woodchuck is bigger."
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My only complaint is that the cries after something is “cancelled” are as annoying as the cries to cancel it. Is it really a super duper offensive team name? Probably not. Is it really another step in the destruction and wussification of Western civilization, freedom, democracy, American ingenuity, and Apple pie? Yeah probably not either.
Are they playing baseball? Cool, I’m watching. Nothing changes. |
The Team I root for, the SF Giants (no offense to people who suffer from Gigantism) have been virtue signaling to appease the woke crowd for some time now, they have all the bases covered when it comes to being "progressive".
Doesn't bother me, I just wish they would also cover the most important base and field a winning Team, which they seemed to have put on the bottom of the list of priorities. |
Really? Is this a progressive issue? I would think it's more about human decency. I'm not your mascot.
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At the end of the day - why offend if it's entirely unnecessary. Ohio is now the official birthplace of aviation and many other industries. There's plenty of other content to pull from too. Cleveland Aviators has tons of marketing potential.
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[The term Indian is not offensive at all [/QUOTE]
It’s not offensive to you perhaps. But if you read the team’s statement, it is clearly so to a number of indigenous people they consider community stakeholders. That is what matters. |
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I suggest the #ClevelandIndians rename themselves the #Cleveland Virtue Signallers and their mascot can be a genderless human in a onesie #Woke |
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Fracking is another big industry in Ohio. The Cleveland Frackers has a pretty nice ring to it, but might it be construed as offensive? :rolleyes:
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Respectfully submitted: There are so many things that "offend" all of us in this world but most of us just go on with our lives and let others do the same; understanding that we will never agree on everything. I think if this were done in another year we could give it more consideration etc. but 2020 has been a year of extremes in so many ways it just seems reactionary. (yes I know its been discussed for a while)
What is next? Braves? Chiefs? Tar Heels? Warriors? Yankees? Mountaineers? Seminoles? Ole Miss Rebels? Utes? Blackhawks? Colonials? Orangemen? Cowboys? Illini? Aztecs? Tribe? etc. Thats just off the top of my head Quote:
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For many posts on this thread, I can't tell whether or not sarcasm is intended.
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Do you mark Indian? I didn't know that was a choice
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At the rate we are going, how long will it be before possession of items containing these “offensive” words become illegal? Sounds crazy but what we’re doing now would have sounded crazy 20 years ago.
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Ironic that white liberals think they need to tell Native Americans what's best for them. That's wokest part of all.
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We should probably get rid of the Padres name to appease the atheists too.
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I know it may be hard to believe but there are almost no original names in sports. Even in the examples given, Ole Miss was known as the Flood until 1936. Time has a way of moving forward and after a while nobody even remembers there was a different name.
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Lol! and the Providence Friars!
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Perhaps people have too much time and pent up frustration from sitting at home and feel they "need to make a difference"? |
If I call someone from France a Frenchman, it's fine. Oh, you hail from Sweden? You're a Swede. No problem. Down under? Hello, Aussie. But if I call someone from Mexico City a Mexican, the social justice d*bag warriors scream, "Racist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Jeez, is this supposed to be Chief Wahoo or John Wayne Gacy?
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I think this one has gone the full course. I'm guessing Leon will have this locked in the not-so-distant future.
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Name change
I think this was mainly a company (owner's of the Cleveland Indians), deciding to do something that they thought would be good for their business. There had been no outcry recently about the name, it wasn't anything anybody had been talking about recently. It was just something the owners decided to do. Perhaps they felt it would be good public relations.
Of course we love sports, and we also love card collecting, but we often make it out to be something more important than it really is. Teams used to change names very often. It didn't used to be a big thing. As Bob Dylan famously said "the times they are a changing". My favorite saying is that "the only thing that never changes is that everything changes". So, was I surprised to hear the name changed ? Yes. Is it a big deal to me ? No. I'm not an Cleveland Indian fan. If I were, I guess I would feel different. |
The owners have decided to get rid of the offensive portion of their name. Their new name will now be:
Ohio Indians *rimshot* My local minor league team is the Spokane Indians. They have partnered with the actual Spokane tribe ("The Spokane Tribe of Indians" being the official name) and seek to honor the tribe with the team name, logos, and the stadium. The logo has "Spokane" written in Salish, for example. That's the right way to do things. I think the problem with Cleveland is that they have a loooooooong history of, well, being racist with their team name, logos, and mascots. Yes, they dropped Chief Wahoo but the legacy of all the garbage is still there. Personally, I think it's a wise decision of them to change. I don't consider this a sign of the apocalypse or even "bad" in any way. As baseball fans, we should all know that nearly every team has had a ton of nicknames through the years. What's one more? A suggested name I heard from someone else: Cleveland Admirals, in honor of Cleveland native Admiral Isaac Kidd, who was killed at Pearl Harbor and awarded the Medal of Honor. |
How about the "Cuyahoga Fire"?
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Seriously, my advice to the owners is....re-name the team the Cleveland LAKERS....since the Stadium is situated next to Lake Erie.
Then, we can watch (and laugh) how the "politically correct" crowd struggles to change the name Lakers.....for they will try, as they have no respect for anything traditional. . |
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