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Leon 06-17-2020 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1990954)
After all, the 52 Topps Mantle is a second year card too.

But his rookie Topps card.... :)

I am going with Heilmann being underrated..

lowpopper 06-17-2020 04:23 PM

molitor-trammell 78 most undervalued card comparative to price

2 HOF on 1 rookie card

:cool::cool::cool:

Aquarian Sports Cards 06-17-2020 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lowpopper (Post 1991348)
molitor-trammell 78 most undervalued card comparative to price

2 HOF on 1 rookie card

:cool::cool::cool:

Always liked the 78 Murphy/Parrish/Diaz/Whitt Card even though it's not Murph's rookie. How many rookie cards have 4 future all-stars on them?

Huysmans 06-18-2020 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1990954)
After all, the 52 Topps Mantle is a second year card too.

Comparing a '55 Topps Aaron to the '52 Topps Mantle as both just second year cards is comical.

G1911 06-18-2020 12:55 PM

The 1957 Frank Robinson has always seemed undervalued relative to other HOF rookies in high-printed series.

I know the obsession is with rookies, but I always think cards of good/great players in their iconic seasons are usually underpriced, like a 1968 Bob Gibson. That's cooler to me than a 1959 when he was just an afterthought in the high series.

Pre-War, guys who just barely missed the hall tend to be underpriced (Dahlen seems to be treated as a low-end HOFer now, though). Eddie Collins is underpriced, I tend to think John McGraw usually is too.

packs 06-18-2020 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Huysmans (Post 1991493)
Comparing a '55 Topps Aaron to the '52 Topps Mantle as both just second year cards is comical.

That's usually what you shoot for when you make a joke.

Huysmans 06-18-2020 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1991621)
That's usually what you shoot for when you make a joke.

You need a sense of humour to be funny.

RCMcKenzie 06-18-2020 06:30 PM

Dale Murphy rookie card
 
My younger brother and I used to trade cards a lot. He had a Murphy/Parrish rookie and I used to say, "What can you do for the Bo Diaz, rook?"

I always thought it was funnier than he did. I never was able to make a deal for that card, although after college he dropped off his collection for me to keep for him, so I have a Diaz rookie in a box somewhere.

packs 06-18-2020 06:38 PM

The 38 Goudey Feller is one I think could be undervalued.

conor912 06-18-2020 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 1991618)

I know the obsession is with rookies, but I always think cards of good/great players in their iconic seasons are usually underpriced, like a 1968 Bob Gibson. That's cooler to me than a 1959 when he was just an afterthought in the high series.

I’ve always wondered this. Maris is a perfect example.

phikappapsi 06-19-2020 06:04 AM

thanks to this damn thread I've added an '86 Rice to an otherwise almost entirely pre-war/baseball collection.

conor912 06-19-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by phikappapsi (Post 1991863)
thanks to this damn thread I've added an '86 Rice to an otherwise almost entirely pre-war/baseball collection.

Hahaha. Awesome. Why stop there? Do the whole ‘86 Sox team. I love little projects like that. They’re fun, cheap, and keep my occupied in collecting while saving/waiting for bigger fish....

toledo_mudhen 06-20-2020 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by phikappapsi (Post 1991863)
thanks to this damn thread I've added an '86 Rice to an otherwise almost entirely pre-war/baseball collection.

What did you get and what was the price (if not too personal) - I seem to find myself also glued to the 86 Rice listings...

phikappapsi 06-21-2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen (Post 1992185)
What did you get and what was the price (if not too personal) - I seem to find myself also glued to the 86 Rice listings...

Paid 565 for a Beckett 9 that looked real sharp. Seeing the Steve Young 10 go for what. $20k this week, made that feel ultra reasonable

jchcollins 06-22-2020 01:19 PM

I will agree that for his prominence in the 1980's hobby and earlier, Stan Musial has all but fallen off the map today. Frank Robinson to my knowledge has always been undervalued. In terms of pitchers and the esteem they were once held in - Steve Carlton cards besides his rookie are dirt cheap. And even the '65 in midgrade is only around $100. Just saying, Steve Carlton has 4 Cy Young Awards, Nolan Ryan has none...

Wanaselja 06-22-2020 01:34 PM

I got blown out of the water last night bidding on a nice Robinson PSA 7. It went for $961.

Touch'EmAll 06-22-2020 02:33 PM

Fergie Jenkins had 5 season in top 3 Cy Young voting. I haven't looked at his card values, but bet darn cheap.

jchcollins 06-22-2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 100backstroke (Post 1992804)
Fergie Jenkins had 5 season in top 3 Cy Young voting. I haven't looked at his card values, but bet darn cheap.

Yeah he has "Cub that's not Ernie Banks" syndrome, which also affects Billy Williams and Ron Santo. His RC in nice shape is maybe a $50 card.

Leon 06-23-2020 01:30 PM

Getting back to pre war I still think REAL Fro Joys are a great buy. That said, I think I am in the minority.

https://luckeycards.com/pf52frojoyruth.jpg

Kutcher55 06-23-2020 02:14 PM

Funny, I saw the topic and before I clicked I guessed it was a Frank Robinson Rookie. Even more weird, I just got a 5 in this card nicely centered as well. It has gone up a ton in the past few months. In addition to his stellar playing career he was the first African American Manager in MLB history. For a long time, this card was cheaper pound for pound than the 57 Mays or Aaron, but that's no longer the case. I think it has room for further growth.

packs 06-23-2020 02:41 PM

I think the future will be kinder to him as people who had interactions with him pass. He was notorious for being horrible to be around if you were a fan.

ValKehl 06-23-2020 08:04 PM

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[QUOTE=Leon;1993111]Getting back to pre war I still think REAL Fro Joys are a great buy. That said, I think I am in the minority.QUOTE]

Leon, I agree with you. And, ditto for the George Ruth Candy cards.

Wanaselja 06-24-2020 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1993135)
I think the future will be kinder to him as people who had interactions with him pass. He was notorious for being horrible to be around if you were a fan.

I agree. I can't speak to how the older generation sees him but I'm 42 and when I was growing up it was:

Aaron 755
Ruth 714
Mays 660
Robinson 586

As a kid those were the GOATs (along with Ted Williams) to me. I think this new crop of collectors has a very different view of Robinson. Top 25 in WAR, MVP in each league, triple crown, first black manager. That's a helluva resume.

gawaintheknight 06-24-2020 06:01 AM

Jeez, you guys talk about Frank Robinson like he was Milt Pappas or something.

Wanaselja 06-24-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by gawaintheknight (Post 1993299)
Jeez, you guys talk about Frank Robinson like he was Milt Pappas or something.

Hahaha fair point.

Mike D. 06-24-2020 01:29 PM

I like any card that tells me ice cream cones are good for me and that I should have one every day.:)

slidekellyslide 06-24-2020 03:33 PM

Warren Spahn won 363 games and his rookie can be had for $300 in mid grade and ~$1000 in high grade.

icollectDCsports 06-24-2020 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1993428)
Warren Spahn won 363 games and his rookie can be had for $300 in mid grade and ~$1000 in high grade.

Definitely one of the most underappreciated players of that era.

G1911 06-25-2020 03:51 PM

In addition to those mentioned and keeping to pre-war, I think Lefty Grove is generally undervalued. He's a top 3 pitcher all-time, I think. Hubbell is a little cheap too. I think pitchers tend to be more likely to be undervalued, and that Hubbell and Grove's stats are not eye-popping until you compare to the context in which those numbers happened has limited their appeal.

leaflover 06-27-2020 02:02 PM

Larry Doby
 
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By far Larry Doby is the most undervalued-underrated player in the hobby.
The American League's first negro gets no respect! PSA "pop report" for 1948-49 Leafs show a mere 139 examples graded compared to Robinson's 1,344.
Yet there is a hugh price differential in Robinson's favor.

BleedinBlue 06-29-2020 04:59 PM

First versus second
 
Larry Doby and Buzz Aldrin are both great examples demonstrating the huge difference between being first and being second.

Leon 06-30-2020 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by leaflover (Post 1994161)
By far Larry Doby is the most undervalued-underrated player in the hobby.
The American League's first negro gets no respect! PSA "pop report" for 1948-49 Leafs show a mere 139 examples graded compared to Robinson's 1,344.
Yet there is a hugh price differential in Robinson's favor.

Great looking card. As was said, number 2 doesn't get the accolades....


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