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BengoughingForAwhile 08-02-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1904778)

Hilarious! Thanks for sharing Peter. Lets hear it for the PWCC Facilities Manager! My new favorite PWCC employee!

Fuddjcal 08-02-2019 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BengoughingForAwhile (Post 1904793)
Hilarious! Thanks for sharing Peter. Lets hear it for the PWCC Facilities Manager! My new favorite PWCC employee!

Yes Hi, I'd like to ask you a question about the carpet & easel?

samosa4u 08-02-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1904778)

You would think with all the people screaming bloody murder on the forums that the PWCC booth was going to be like the Israel-Palestine border. Instead, I watch the video and the booth looks quieter than my local library. Go figure.

Jewish-collector 08-02-2019 01:33 PM

People are a lot different in person than they are on a message board.

steve B 08-02-2019 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBeerGut (Post 1904763)
Back to my Keystone Light :>

No, you've had enough already.

bnorth 08-02-2019 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish-collector (Post 1904858)
People are a lot different in person than they are on a message board.

That is a big part of it. I complain about the scum in the hobby all the time but am the nicest person you ever want to meet in person. I will still complain about it but i argue with no one.:)

Then the first person to start any open complaining will be escorted out of the building.

Then the elephant in the room. Almost every dealer there and every dealer that sells PSA slabs wants it to go away as fast as possible.

Peter_Spaeth 08-02-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 1904856)
You would think with all the people screaming bloody murder on the forums that the PWCC booth was going to be like the Israel-Palestine border. Instead, I watch the video and the booth looks quieter than my local library. Go figure.

Visible security can certainly deter people.

whitehse 08-02-2019 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BengoughingForAwhile (Post 1904793)
Hilarious! Thanks for sharing Peter. Lets hear it for the PWCC Facilities Manager! My new favorite PWCC employee!

Do you think he has a job when he gets back to work on Monday morning?

I can only assume he received a very stern and terse speaking to on Thursday night. I wonder if he is even still at the show or was he given tickets tot he Cubs game and wont be seen until its time to tear down the booth.

WhenItWasAHobby 08-02-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1904778)

One word comes to mind watching that video: AWKWARD.

Also, I'd love to see the submission history of those cards in the "Vault".

Beastmode 08-02-2019 02:13 PM

Is that Deputy Barney Phif guarding the cards?

Aquarian Sports Cards 08-02-2019 02:58 PM

I'm assuming this policy of not being recorded is on advice of counsel as, prior to Jeff's involvement, they ran their mouths quite a bit.

bnorth 08-02-2019 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1904885)
I'm assuming this policy of not being recorded is on advice of counsel as, prior to Jeff's involvement, they ran their mouths quite a bit.

Depending on if Chicago is a one or two party consent place you could just record them without them knowing.:D

I would agree Jeffrey more than likely told them to STFU you morons.

WhenItWasAHobby 08-02-2019 03:11 PM

I'd also like to see the same type of video journalism at the PSA Booth and see watch kind of rhetoric spews out of mouths of the principals at PSA. My guess is that they will, like PWCC, scamper for cover at the sight of a video camera.

By the way, does PSA still host Registry Luncheons at the National? When they did years back, there was a Q & A time. I'd be very surprised if PSA would give the public that same opportunity today.

Aquarian Sports Cards 08-02-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1904890)
Depending on if Chicago is a one or two party consent place you could just record them without them knowing.:D

I would agree Jeffrey more than likely told them to STFU you morons.

Since he was basically saying that before they paid him I'll go out on a limb and say I'm 99% certain lol.

Peter_Spaeth 08-02-2019 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1904890)
Depending on if Chicago is a one or two party consent place you could just record them without them knowing.:D

I would agree Jeffrey more than likely told them to STFU you morons.

I think it's two party. Isn't the building also private property?

Peter_Spaeth 08-02-2019 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1904915)
Since he was basically saying that before they paid him I'll go out on a limb and say I'm 99% certain lol.

What a place to have reached in life, where you can't even talk for fear of making your legal predicament worse. Was it worth it, Brent?

Aquarian Sports Cards 08-02-2019 05:02 PM

I'm guessing the answer is "Yup."

Just ask the writer of the article about his showplace home in 1859 Oregon Magazine

"The façade of Betsy and Brent Huigens’...

...is as traditional as it gets"

https://1859oregonmagazine.com/live/...sign-portland/

ullmandds 08-02-2019 05:14 PM

pretty pathetic performance betsy...and brent sure looked like a weasel. I suppose ripping people off in the hobby is all they know how to do...so they really have no choice at this time but to continue doing so...in the hopes they don't do jail time.

Peter_Spaeth 08-02-2019 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1904926)
I'm guessing the answer is "Yup."

Just ask the writer of the article about his showplace home in 1859 Oregon Magazine

"The façade of Betsy and Brent Huigens’...

...is as traditional as it gets"

https://1859oregonmagazine.com/live/...sign-portland/

Riches is nothing in the face of the Lord, for He can see into the heart.

Faulkner, As I Lay Dying.

x2drich2000 08-02-2019 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1904920)
I think it's two party. Isn't the building also private property?

As far as I am aware, I'm pretty sure it is 2 party as well. The ownership I think would be more interesting since I believe it is owned by the village of Rosemont.

chalupacollects 08-02-2019 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1904926)
I'm guessing the answer is "Yup."

Just ask the writer of the article about his showplace home in 1859 Oregon Magazine

"The façade of Betsy and Brent Huigens’...

...is as traditional as it gets"

https://1859oregonmagazine.com/live/...sign-portland/

Did you happen to see the comment at the end of the article - priceless...

Aquarian Sports Cards 08-02-2019 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1904929)
Riches is nothing in the face of the Lord, for He can see into the heart.

Faulkner, As I Lay Dying.

For us agnostics that's not much of a threat...

For the atheists it's even less!

Aquarian Sports Cards 08-02-2019 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chalupacollects (Post 1904934)
Did you happen to see the comment at the end of the article - priceless...

Was almost worth the article just so someone could post the comment!

Peter_Spaeth 08-02-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1904935)
For us agnostics that's not much of a threat...

For the atheists it's even less!

You don't need to be a believer to embrace the value judgment.

rdwyer 08-02-2019 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoI-wMSkB5w
Exactly why I started this thread. Would take alot of guts to show up at the national. They are lucky there isn't hundreds of people asking questions.

Duluth Eskimo 08-02-2019 08:52 PM

That was classic. I was there Tuesday thru Thursday and they were not there prior to opening. It seemed like an uncomfortable environment, but they were both there Thursday as shown. Plenty of rubes stopping by to admire the “vault”.

MULLINS5 08-02-2019 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 1904926)
I'm guessing the answer is "Yup."

Just ask the writer of the article about his showplace home in 1859 Oregon Magazine

"The façade of Betsy and Brent Huigens’...

...is as traditional as it gets"

https://1859oregonmagazine.com/live/...sign-portland/

It was this character that Huigens and her husband sought to preserve when they bought the house in early 2016. While previous homeowners had made changes to the interior, including a kitchen remodel and painting the den’s woodwork white, the Huigens weren’t interested in making further alterations that might prove out-of-sync. Instead, they restored all of the old wooden windows and retooled glitchy door hardware. When it came time to decorate, the couple needed an interior designer who could help them express their personal style and ensure functionality for their family, while still respecting the house’s traditional shell."

Think they have the same stance on altering cards.

DJCollector1 08-03-2019 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MULLINS5 (Post 1904986)

Think they have the same stance on altering cards.

I didn't comment on that article when I first read it, but I thought exactly the same "same stance on altering cards" as you did.

samosa4u 08-03-2019 11:27 AM

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Here is the comment - HILARIOUS!

buymycards 08-03-2019 12:45 PM

Hi Mike
 
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Originally Posted by BigBeerGut (Post 1904763)

Back to my Keystone Light :>

C'mon Mike - Keystone light? That is like buying 1990 Topps when there are much better cards/beer out there. :p

Rick

Johnny630 08-03-2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 1905073)
Here is the comment - HILARIOUS!

Lmao

topcat61 08-03-2019 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1904928)
pretty pathetic performance betsy...and brent sure looked like a weasel. I suppose ripping people off in the hobby is all they know how to do...so they really have no choice at this time but to continue doing so...in the hopes they don't do jail time.

I'm sure whatever she or any employees say on camera can be used against them in court, so there's the reason why she doesn't want to be recorded. The guy asking the questions should've asked her where can he see that policy? Is it in writing? She's an amateur...didn't PWCC's lawyers sit her down and go over what to say in situations like this?

She didn't help PWCC's situation. I would've been all over those questions to get it out in the open instead of making it look like they've got something to hide. She looks scared too but I would if I thought my lifestyle is in potential jeopardy.

Tennis13 08-03-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by samosa4u (Post 1905073)
Here is the comment - HILARIOUS!

I believe this headline answers it in the story?

Oregon Design: restoring and revealing rather than replacing

BigBeerGut 08-03-2019 08:27 PM

Saw Brent today. Looks like he has aged 10 years since Cleveland. Same with Betsy but she could still maybe grade a 7 NM if Mosher soaked and stretched her!


PWCC catching Big Heat at the show but then
he throws a E98 Cobb Rainbow out there and
everyone is Zombified AND lying about the
fact that they wont bid on PWCC items :>

'Mike' Drop

Peter_Spaeth 08-03-2019 09:07 PM

Very tasteful comment. Seriously?

BigBeerGut 08-03-2019 10:12 PM

Your right she is a 7.5 NM+
(after alterations/conservation efforts)

Leon 08-03-2019 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBeerGut (Post 1905244)
Your right she is a 7.5 NM+
(after alterations/conservation efforts)

That was a tasteless comment you made about someone's spouse. You really should refrain from that on this forum. And if she wasn't in the hobby you would be given an infraction or banned.

BigBeerGut 08-03-2019 10:59 PM

I am sorry. It will not happen again. Was trying to be funny with a play on words but now I see how it was distasteful and offensive. I apologize to Betsy and Brent and The Forum.


Michael Durrett

robertsmithnocure 08-03-2019 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBeerGut (Post 1905221)
Saw Brent today. Looks like he has aged 10 years since Cleveland. Same with Betsy but she could still maybe grade a 7 NM if Mosher soaked and stretched her!

'Mike' Drop


Wow. This is an all time low.

Cooptown 08-04-2019 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1904664)

You gotta give PWCC a lot of credit. The one guy in the black golf shirt and cap was willing to answer any questions they had about the carpet or easels.

Republicaninmass 08-04-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooptown (Post 1905310)
You gotta give PWCC a lot of credit. The one guy in the black golf shirt and cap was willing to answer any questions they had about the carpet or easels.

Curious if they matched the curtains in the vault

Exhibitman 08-04-2019 09:05 AM

Such classy folks...just drips out their asses.

Republicaninmass 08-04-2019 10:01 AM

People lined up with waffle cones

Piratedogcardshows 08-04-2019 10:25 AM

I thought the Feds were storming the place this morning. Turns out it’s just a Halo convention going on upstairs lol. Had me convinced:D

Santo10Fan 08-04-2019 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1904920)
I think it's two party. Isn't the building also private property?

Illinois is 2-party and DESCC is a municipal building. Editing now because I just saw the portion of the video with the claim about private property. She is within her IL rights to demand an end to the recording of her person, but I find it unlikely the same goes for the inanimate display booth. Do you concur?

HRBAKER 08-04-2019 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 1905344)
I thought the Feds were storming the place this morning. Turns out it’s just a Halo convention going on upstairs lol. Had me convinced:D

https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/...psdrz7sx4l.jpg

Yeah, I told my wife we weren't even the weirdest people in the building this year.

1880nonsports 08-04-2019 06:19 PM

ok once again I'll bite
 
as I sheepishly inquire what "Halo" means in it's earlier context

Bicem 08-04-2019 06:51 PM

Anyone looking for an HM Taylor Cobb?

PWCC has this one currently for sale... Cobb

Same one that they "sold" about a month ago... Cobb

And same one that they "sold" about a month or so before that... Cobb

So don't worry if you don't win it, should be available again in about a month from now.

Peter_Spaeth 08-04-2019 07:02 PM

So someone won for 6900, turned around and consigned it and realized 4400 les fees. Good ROI. I wonder if the original purchase was recommended by Brent in his adviser hat.

Rhotchkiss 08-04-2019 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 1905497)
Anyone looking for an HM Taylor Cobb?

PWCC has this one currently for sale... Cobb

Same one that they "sold" about a month ago... Cobb

And same one that they "sold" about a month or so before that... Cobb

So don't worry if you don't win it, should be available again in about a month from now.

Jeff- I am glad you pointed this out. I remember thinking what an ugly and terribly over-graded example, last auction. And then in my daily Cobb search, I saw the card, AGAIN.


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