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tedzan 05-05-2019 06:46 PM

Some really great stuff on display in this thread.

It is time to enhance this Wagner extravaganza with this "baby".....


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rStripX19x.jpg


TED Z

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MVSNYC 05-05-2019 08:42 PM

Ted, are you now the owner of the proof strip?

ullmandds 05-05-2019 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1875420)
Ted, are you now the owner of the proof strip?

That looks like a copy

MVSNYC 05-05-2019 08:50 PM

Or just a poor quality scan. Wasn't sure if Ted owns it or not.

Rhotchkiss 05-05-2019 09:27 PM

Ted, that’s a great Bowerman

tedzan 05-06-2019 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC (Post 1875420)
Ted, are you now the owner of the proof strip?

Of course not, Mike.

I took a picture of it several years ago and what I have posted is a scan of that picture.


TED Z

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calvindog 05-06-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by George (Post 1875400)
I have no idea why this particular card is rated at only a 1. But I must say that, of the Orange Borders that I have seen, 1 is an unusually high number. I do not think that I have ever seen an Orange Border with a higher number. It may have something to do with cards that are hand cut. Of course, this did not seem to have a bad effect on the original Mastro T206 Wagner.........

Here's a couple:

https://live.staticflickr.com/3060/2...d7d5ccf1_z.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/5099/5...636ed355_z.jpg

calvindog 05-06-2019 08:44 AM

https://live.staticflickr.com/1879/2...b584e386_c.jpg


https://live.staticflickr.com/1890/4...7f6c6da5_c.jpg

packs 05-06-2019 09:08 AM

How about a Wagner signed card?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...42e7df48ae.jpg

Bugsy 05-06-2019 11:56 AM

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A 1915 premium

MVSNYC 05-06-2019 12:20 PM

Ted, wasn't sure, just thought I'd ask.

I was at the Halper/Sotheby's sale 20 years ago (wow, time flies), and I think it went for around $85k then.

Chris- I love that 1915 Wagner premium, great image of him.

ATL 05-06-2019 07:40 PM

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Not sure I've seen another example of this J=K Wagner...the headless Wagner.

Rhotchkiss 05-06-2019 11:42 PM

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That headless Wagner is wild, and I especially love how they put the card in a smaller gasket, as if that was the normal size of the card..

Andrew1975 05-07-2019 06:02 AM

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Sole Wagner in my collection...


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gabrinus 05-07-2019 09:02 AM

E94 Blomes Wagner
 
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Here's one with a Blomes back...Jerry...

WillowGrove 05-07-2019 09:37 PM

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Such great cards in this thread. Jeff L., that "Two of a Kind" PC with Ty and Honus is great - and so tough to find.

I don't own many Honus cards but somehow I can post one that hasn't been up yet -

Side question - has anyone ever seen a Honus Virginia Extra?

Baseball Rarities 05-07-2019 10:46 PM

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Really enjoy seeing the awesome variety of Honus Wagner cards in this thread. Here is another postcard for the virtual collection, from the 1908 American League Publishing set. I love that this postcard combines a great batting pose along with Horner's famous portrait of Wagner.

The "Pat Herbst, Cigars" overprint is the only one that I have ever seen. I guess that it can be considered a tobacco card. LOL

pcoz 05-08-2019 07:44 AM

Wags
 
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A few of my favorites...

T206Collector 05-08-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1875503)
How about a Wagner signed card?

Okay...

<img src="https://live.staticflickr.com/756/32332295595_b5ee863402_b.jpg" width="641" height="1024" alt="Wagner_M116_SGC_A"></a>

bobbvc 05-08-2019 02:30 PM

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Not a card, but a favorite.

CobbSpikedMe 05-08-2019 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pcoz (Post 1875950)
A few of my favorites...

Pete,

That 1910 E-Unc is my favorite Wagner card. I love seeing it posted anytime. :D

Andy

Rhotchkiss 05-09-2019 06:59 AM

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Some truly amazing cards/pieces here indeed- a virtual museum of Mr. Wagner. Let’s keep it rolling. Cut a deal and a check on this but not yet in hand, so I will post it here but reserve a second posting for May pickups when appropriate.
The very rare 1911 Baltimore Newsboy version

ullmandds 05-09-2019 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1876224)
Some truly amazing cards/pieces here indeed- a virtual museum of Mr. Wagner. Let’s keep it rolling. Cut a deal and a check on this but not yet in hand, so I will post it here but reserve a second posting for May pickups when appropriate.
The very rare 1911 Baltimore Newsboy version

that's a toughie! whats the pop on that???? at this rate you will have to eventually add a t206 to your growing wags rarity collection!!!! or maybe t206 is too common!!!!

Rhotchkiss 05-09-2019 07:29 AM

Thanks Pete! I do want a T206 Wagner and that is my ultimate goal (not sure I am ready for it yet, however). In the meantime, I will acquire what I can, and try to continue to build out a cool Wagner collection.

Regarding the Newsboy, there are two graded Wagners -- a PSA 3 and this SGC 3 - based on pop reports and I am not sure if they are the same card. PSA has only graded 23 total Newsboys. I am not sure about SGC, but I have to imagine its at least that many and likely double. My guess is there are 50-70 graded and your guess is as good as mine on ungraded. As you know, they were handed out only in 1911 and only in Baltimore to boys that delivered the Baltimore News newspaper. The goals was to collect the whole set (I think same as E94) and to turn them in for a $1.

pcoz 05-10-2019 04:16 AM

Wags
 
Thanks Andy! Ryan, truly an amazing pickup, thanks for sharing, congrats!!!

BLongley 05-10-2019 08:28 AM

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My contribution... got this from Pete last year... thanks Pete!

robertsmithnocure 05-12-2019 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1876231)
Regarding the Newsboy, there are two graded Wagners -- a PSA 3 and this SGC 3 - based on pop reports and I am not sure if they are the same card. PSA has only graded 23 total Newsboys. I am not sure about SGC, but I have to imagine its at least that many and likely double. My guess is there are 50-70 graded and your guess is as good as mine on ungraded. As you know, they were handed out only in 1911 and only in Baltimore to boys that delivered the Baltimore News newspaper. The goals was to collect the whole set (I think same as E94) and to turn them in for a $1.

Ryan - love the M131 Newsboy Wagner. These cards are so rare and do not always get the credit that they deserve.

There is another SGC 3 out there too. It is sort of an SGC graded near set (missing 2).

Rhotchkiss 05-14-2019 04:34 AM

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Very nice cards Pete and Brian. And that Wagner auto is awesome.

Here is the e92+ Wagner back run I am working on. Thanks to Patrick for putting the picture together like this, and thanks to many board members for helping with several of these cards.

gabrinus 05-14-2019 10:50 AM

Nice thread
 
Nice thread...all great cards...seeing two Nadja Wagners is incredible...Jerry

T206Collector 05-14-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 1877505)
Very nice cards Pete and Brian. And that Wagner auto is awesome.

Here is the e92+ Wagner back run I am working on. Thanks to Patrick for putting the picture together like this, and thanks to many board members for helping with several of these cards.

I love the back run, especially as it is presented in this pic. Really nice - and hard to find all those cards! That's some accomplishment!

cracker_jack 05-14-2019 12:17 PM

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Haven't seen this one...

Rhotchkiss 09-30-2023 09:36 AM

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Resurrecting this old thread for some early Wagners:

E107
M101-1
1902 (I think) Pittsburgh team photo
W600 type 1
1897 (I think) Patterson Silkweavers team photo

Aaron Seefeldt 09-30-2023 09:58 AM

Great cards Ryan, thank you for showing them. I love seeing the e107 & w600 (same image) together, special special cards.

WillowGrove 10-01-2023 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss (Post 2376933)
Resurrecting this old thread for some early Wagners:

E107
M101-1
1902 (I think) Pittsburgh team photo
W600 type 1
1897 (I think) Patterson Silkweavers team photo

1896 Ryan!
This is from the Wednesday May 27th 1896 Paterson News:

doug.goodman 10-01-2023 09:04 AM

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My best...

His two m113 releases, the top from Sept 1909, the bottom from Dec 1913.

theshowandme 10-01-2023 09:13 PM

My only contribution

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...55b5efee70.jpg

Vintageclout 10-01-2023 09:26 PM

Wagners
 
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Originally Posted by pcoz (Post 1875950)
A few of my favorites...

Pete - it’s a shame you don’t own any “rare” Wagner’s….LOL. Incredible scarcities Pete!

brianp-beme 10-02-2023 01:32 AM

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One of these Orange Border Wagner cards was shown previously in this thread, but that was so 4 years ago, and it didn't have jagged borders like this one.

Brian

sb1 10-03-2023 03:29 PM

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One I don't think I had ever scanned or shown

svtPONY95 10-09-2023 03:43 PM

https://www.collectorfocus.com/image...16-hans-wagner

Aaron Seefeldt 10-09-2023 10:26 PM

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Scarce cigar label proofs. I’m grateful to have come across these at the National a couple of months ago.

chiprop 10-10-2023 01:04 AM

Aaron, those are incredible! Nice snag

TUM301 10-10-2023 09:51 AM

Wagner
 
As usual really great items. Those cigar bands are cool as hell. Don`t have much to contribute but here`s a couple Honus items from the collection.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6b3e5c51_c.jpg1947 Snapshot Honus Wagner by Hugh Murphy, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/4360/3...c0cb8de2_c.jpgF1829D37-B280-4D92-94F1-10D2D19BA38C by Hugh Murphy, on Flickr

bigfanNY 10-10-2023 10:03 AM

Love the way this thread starts. The W600 Wagner in the Burdick catalog is definitely one of the cards that drew many collectors to the hobby. Such a beautiful card. Thank everyone for sharing such a wonderful assortment of Wagners!

bcbgcbrcb 10-10-2023 12:09 PM

Ryan:

You might already know this but HOF Executive Ed Barrow is also pictured on that Paterson image (middle row, second from left).

mrreality68 10-10-2023 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron Seefeldt (Post 2379458)
Scarce cigar label proofs. I’m grateful to have come across these at the National a couple of months ago.

Love the graphics and details on those cigar proofs

Rhotchkiss 10-10-2023 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WillowGrove (Post 2377171)
1896 Ryan!
This is from the Wednesday May 27th 1896 Paterson News:

Thanks Peter, that’s awesome info!

Phil, I did not know that. Very cool bonus.

Lucas00 10-10-2023 05:26 PM

Type 1 of Honus rubbing down a 1912 model "spit ball bat". Prior to his 1947 season as a coach.

Apologies for the poorly taken image.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...237ceca488.jpg

Aaron Seefeldt 10-10-2023 11:04 PM

Thank you chiprop, Hugh, & Jeff.

h2oya311 10-11-2023 07:46 AM

Without any…let me rephrase…with very few tobacco cards issued of the Flying Dutchman, you can see that this thread is much more devoid of cards versus the Ty Cobb thread.

I would think that the dearth of cards available of Hans probably accounts for his relatively higher prices. I know that Wagner is a glaring hole in my “rookie” collection. I’m still holding out for an affordable NCP or M101-1.


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