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Jcfowler6 11-17-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ramram (Post 1720286)
Why is the quality of the cardboard more important than the quality of the image on a vintage card? Probably more of a rhetorical question as I am guessing it's because cardboard damage can be quantified while image quality is more subjective.



Rob M



I was seriously talking to some about this exact thing just days ago. I said I collect moments in time and condition isn’t all that important. What do you collect? The history and art of it or paper?


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Jcfowler6 11-17-2017 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sycks22 (Post 1720315)
Do you cringe when people would rather have an Aaron Judge blue refractor numbered out of 50 than a '52 Topps Mantle?



Yes! And even worse with these new electronic cards. They are dropping big money on them. It’s crazy.


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vintagebaseballcardguy 11-17-2017 06:24 PM

Why do people buy cards for $59 and $87 on ebay then price them on the BST less than a week later for $1250 and $1800 respectively? I'm as much a capitalist as anyone else but wow! :eek:

nat 11-17-2017 07:07 PM

What's an electronic card?

Jcfowler6 11-17-2017 07:14 PM

What You Don’t Know About The Hobby Could Fill This Thread
 
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Originally Posted by nat (Post 1721266)
What's an electronic card?



They do them on their phones. They have autographed cards. Patches. But it is completely digital.


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Jcfowler6 11-17-2017 07:16 PM

https://www.google.com/search?q=base...3GywhtnHVzaiM:



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brianp-beme 11-17-2017 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger (Post 1721130)
How were W575-2 and W502 released? They ain't strip cards.

Arthur

I remembered that I had seen that someone had determined the manufacturer of the W575-2 set, but don't recall any info on how they were distributed. They definitely are not a strip set. Here is the (partial) Wikipedia entry on them:

1922 W 575-2 are a vintage set of baseball cards originally issued by the Kromo Gravue Photo Company out of Detroit Michigan. The set contains 40 blank backed, black and white cards with a number of Hall Of Fame players. Sometimes called the "autograph on shoulder" series because of their facsimile signatures, these cards measure 2-1/8" x 3-3/8".

Leon 11-18-2017 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 1721285)
I remembered that I had seen that someone had determined the manufacturer of the W575-2 set, but don't recall any info on how they were distributed. They definitely are not a strip set. Here is the (partial) Wikipedia entry on them:

1922 W 575-2 are a vintage set of baseball cards originally issued by the Kromo Gravue Photo Company out of Detroit Michigan. The set contains 40 blank backed, black and white cards with a number of Hall Of Fame players. Sometimes called the "autograph on shoulder" series because of their facsimile signatures, these cards measure 2-1/8" x 3-3/8".

Probably not a strip set but at least one short strip is known (not mine any longer)...Don't get me started on strip cards :)....They are still the wild west for the TPG's.....

HasselhoffsCheeseburger 11-18-2017 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1721382)
Probably not a strip set but at least one short strip is known (not mine any longer)...Don't get me started on strip cards :)....They are still the wild west for the TPG's.....

Does that count as a strip? Looking at the back, they're clearly not meant to be separated. I'd be surprised if that item had any direct connection to the set other than the manufacturer of the schedule had access to those Detroit photos and used them just as that, photos for the reverse.

Arthur

Jcfowler6 11-18-2017 11:08 AM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a70c0f9ac1.jpg

Where did these type of things come from? And how did one obtain them?


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oldjudge 11-18-2017 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason (Post 1720913)
I have never seen any proof or statements from fellow collectors of a complete T210 set. There is a gentleman on the SGC registry that has a "retired" near complete set. Perhaps he had the missing cards not listed in raw form?

I know of three sets completed in the last five years as well as two sets just a few cards short (not counting the guy from New Hampshire). Hard, but not impossible to complete.

Spike 11-18-2017 02:16 PM

The late 40s PCL team sets for Remar Bread (Oakland), Sommer & Kaufmann (SF), and Smith's (Oakland) all use the same print size, basic design, and similar photos. Is it fair to say they're produced by the same print shop with sponsorship from those Bay Area business? If so, what shop did the actual printing?

familytoad 11-18-2017 06:17 PM

Numbers
 
Of the many, many things I don’t know...

Which were the first cards that were numbered?

There are a few early sets that were checklisted ,but those predate numbers. Example T3, E95,96,98 ...checklist on reverse, un-numbered on the card. I suppose I don’t know which was first to provide a checklist either:rolleyes::rolleyes:

x2drich2000 11-18-2017 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by familytoad (Post 1721572)
Of the many, many things I don’t know...

Which were the first cards that were numbered?

There are a few early sets that were checklisted ,but those predate numbers. Example T3, E95,96,98 ...checklist on reverse, un-numbered on the card. I suppose I don’t know which was first to provide a checklist either:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Brian, not sure if they were the first, but T3, at least the checklist back, has the cards numbered as well as the checklist.

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familytoad 11-18-2017 06:49 PM

T3
 
Yup, I know they have the numbers on the back....but the cards aren’t numbered themselves. T3 could be the earliest checklist, but I don’t know...which Frank would say...is the point of this thread :p

frankbmd 11-18-2017 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by familytoad (Post 1721582)
Yup, I know they have the numbers on the back....but the cards aren’t numbered themselves. T3 could be the earliest checklist, but I don’t know...which Frank would say...is the point of this thread :p

You are compelling me to respond. The T3 Checklist shown has the No. 32 printed above the checklist. I would be willing to bet that Mr. Overall is on the other side. The large number above the checklist is "the number"of the player's card on the front. So the cards are numbered themselves.

familytoad 11-19-2017 02:06 AM

Forest for trees!
 
Frank, I cannot believe i’ve Overlooked Overall (and all others!)

I have 8-10 Turkey Reds and I can say that while they are evidently numbered, I never even noticed the number at the top !! :cool::eek:

I’m not officially blind but certainly feel it after you pointing out the obvious!

So are the T3 the first with checklist and numbers?

Republicaninmass 11-19-2017 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by familytoad (Post 1721648)
Frank, I cannot believe i’ve Overlooked Overall (and all others!)

I have 8-10 Turkey Reds and I can say that while they are evidently numbered, I never even noticed the number at the top !! :cool::eek:

I’m not officially blind but certainly feel it after you pointing out the obvious!

So are the T3 the first with checklist and numbers?

The ad backs are not!

frankbmd 11-19-2017 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 1721655)
The ad backs are not!

Fake Turkeys! :D

buymycards 11-19-2017 06:52 AM

Goodwin question
 
Why does Goodwin spend so much time and effort with their lavish descriptions of the lots in their catalog if they aren't going to proof read them? I am only interested in one lot, #832, so that is the only description that I read. There are 3 typos and 1 missing word.


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