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darwinbulldog 07-05-2017 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Econteachert205 (Post 1677748)
I don't think the hobby is going anywhere either, I think we're both speaking to an evolution in these markets. I enjoy the discussion and have a tendency towards opinionated beliefs. That's why I come here. No offense taken. I certainly hope the market stays strong as much as anyone, but I do worry about things like crazy prices on low pop commons and the massive amount of newer era stuff out there.

I also worry about the sustainability of exorbitant prices for cards that are common in the literal sense (e.g., just about any Topps base card).

Yoda 07-07-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1676722)
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I think it is terribly unfair of the producers of these True Blood cards to puzzle collectors viewing "Sookie's card as to whether Ms. Stackhouse lives up to her name by having an impressive rack. I must say from the neck up she looks quite tasty.

conor912 07-07-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Econteachert205 (Post 1677748)
I don't think the hobby is going anywhere either, I think we're both speaking to an evolution in these markets. I enjoy the discussion and have a tendency towards opinionated beliefs. That's why I come here. No offense taken. I certainly hope the market stays strong as much as anyone, but I do worry about things like crazy prices on low pop commons and the massive amount of newer era stuff out there.

A couple things to keep in mind...

1) There are 30% more people in US now than there were in 1990, and the trend will continue. Theoretically, more people = more potential fans/collectors, aka increased demand.

And 2) Are there a lot of these cards out there? You bet. But there will continue to be floods, fires, and all sorts of other events that, over the decades, will wipe out collections, aka decreased supply.

I am also in my 30s, but not worried one bit about cardmageddon...at least not in our lifetime anyways.

Johnny630 07-09-2017 07:24 AM

Check Out Hunts PSA 8 Centered Mantle it's only at $160k ish with one day to go. Granted the one corner doesn't look like a 8, this leads me to believe the high dollar investor is getting out of this Market. I think there is gonna be a lot of fear after during/after the National. Just my two cents. Idk lol

Republicaninmass 07-09-2017 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 1678991)
Check Out Hunts PSA 8 Centered Mantle it's only at $160k ish with one day to go. Granted the one corner doesn't look like a 8, this leads me to believe the high dollar investor is getting out of this Market. I think there is gonna be a lot of fear after during/after the National. Just my two cents. Idk lol


Still well beyond the means of even advanced collectors

1952boyntoncollector 07-09-2017 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 1678991)
Check Out Hunts PSA 8 Centered Mantle it's only at $160k ish with one day to go. Granted the one corner doesn't look like a 8, this leads me to believe the high dollar investor is getting out of this Market. I think there is gonna be a lot of fear after during/after the National. Just my two cents. Idk lol

Need to wait till auction ends unless you believe there is zero action at end of auction when most would argue the opposite is true.

If the card goes lower than most 8s it may mean that the high dollar investors may be getting out of the Market on PSA 8 Mantles with a terrible corner...all psa 8s arent alike... lol

Cant say 'Granted the one corner doesnt look like a 8' and then go on and forget saying that. Its the same thing as saying 'I cant believe the Cavaliers lost to the Celtics in 6 games this year, granted Lebron James didnt play'

KCRfan1 07-09-2017 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 1678494)
A couple things to keep in mind...

1) There are 30% more people in US now than there were in 1990, and the trend will continue. Theoretically, more people = more potential fans/collectors, aka increased demand.

And 2) Are there a lot of these cards out there? You bet. But there will continue to be floods, fires, and all sorts of other events that, over the decades, will wipe out collections, aka decreased supply.

I am also in my 30s, but not worried one bit about cardmageddon...at least not in our lifetime anyways.


I'm not worried about cardmageddon either.

When little league ball begins to decrease, and the interest isn't there, then I'll be concerned. ( Golf is in serious trouble ) Will all of those kids grow up and collect?

Not all, but some will.

Most of them collect in some form or another right now though. They all have their favorite players, and present collecting habits can lay the foundation for more expensive interest in card collecting down the road.

irv 07-09-2017 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny630 (Post 1678991)
Check Out Hunts PSA 8 Centered Mantle it's only at $160k ish with one day to go. Granted the one corner doesn't look like a 8, this leads me to believe the high dollar investor is getting out of this Market. I think there is gonna be a lot of fear after during/after the National. Just my two cents. Idk lol

Up to $215K and still 4+ hrs to go.
https://www.huntauctions.com/live/im...=314&lot_qual=

Jdoggs 07-10-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by irv (Post 1679148)
Up to $215K and still 4+ hrs to go.
https://www.huntauctions.com/live/im...=314&lot_qual=

Sold for $282k.

WWG 07-11-2017 07:36 AM

Definitely seeing a downward trend, a previous PSA 8 just recently sold for $462K. Buyers market if you have the change.

http://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/b...e?itemid=42842

GasHouseGang 07-11-2017 10:08 AM

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Not all PSA 8's are created equal. The Memory Lane Mantle was a newly graded example, with really sharp corners. They are both beautiful, but the buyer of the Memory Lane version was willing to step up and pay more for what they believed to be a better example. Here they are, but it's hard to tell from these scans. If you go to the auction sites you can really examine the corners. The Hunt's Mantle is shown first, then the Memory Lane version.

rats60 07-11-2017 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 1679683)
Not all PSA 8's are created equal. The Memory Lane Mantle was a newly graded example, with really sharp corners. They are both beautiful, but the buyer of the Memory Lane version was willing to step up and pay more for what they believed to be a better example. Here they are, but it's hard to tell from these scans. If you go to the auction sites you can really examine the corners. The Hunt's Mantle is shown first, then the Memory Lane version.

The Hunt Mantle is much better centered.

WWG 07-11-2017 11:04 AM

$180K difference is pretty significant for the same technical grade.


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Originally Posted by GasHouseGang (Post 1679683)
Not all PSA 8's are created equal. The Memory Lane Mantle was a newly graded example, with really sharp corners. They are both beautiful, but the buyer of the Memory Lane version was willing to step up and pay more for what they believed to be a better example. Here they are, but it's hard to tell from these scans. If you go to the auction sites you can really examine the corners. The Hunt's Mantle is shown first, then the Memory Lane version.


GasHouseGang 07-11-2017 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WWG (Post 1679702)
$180K difference is pretty significant for the same technical grade.

I agree! And for the record, it wasn't me. :D

Jdoggs 07-11-2017 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WWG (Post 1679702)
$180K difference is pretty significant for the same technical grade.

Also a psa 8 with worse centering sold in February 2017 in heritage for $660k. That's a $380k difference compared to the hunt auctions one for the same grade.

Johnny630 07-11-2017 06:42 PM

I think there is gonna be a lot of fear at the National. This was a big drop.


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