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Amazing thread! Here are a range of pre 1870's items. I've shown most of these before so nothing new.
1856 Porter's Spirit of the Times - Early rules along with diagram of the field 1857 Porter's Spirit of the Times - Gothams vs Eagles 1860's belt buckle 1860's 1/4 plate tintype with glass cover 1860's CDV of 2 players from Dunkirk, NY 1868 CDV of Xenia BBC |
Great trophy ball. Hope it didn't come from Nash...:cool:
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Really great stuff everyone. I want to keep the thread and I apologize in advance if these were posted before, but they fit the thread.
First is a stereoview of a game at Amherst. My research puts it circa 1865. Amherst has it in its collection as an example of the Massachusetts game, but later research by Sabr has it as regular base ball. Sorry, my photos seem to always be upside down. |
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Another pre 1870 stereoview, generic game in front of schoolhouse, that reminds me of a lesser version of a photo Leon has posted in the past
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1868 Chadwick related handbill/broadside previously written up by Carlton
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Stereoview Central Park
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Wow some of those committee names on the Newark Base Ball Club Hop photo from Gary Passamonte appear to be descended from some of the wealthiest landowners in southern New York and Northern New Jersey. F. Pell from the Pell family landed in NY in the 1600's and owned much of the Bronx and southern Westchester County which now includes Pelham and Pelham Manor, New Rochelle, Eastchester part of Yonkers etc. The Van Houtens, Cranes and Hoppers owned much of the land encompassing the Meadowlands area in Northern, NJ up through Hackensack and surroundings towns. Most date back to original land grants from the English. Amazing where these folks popped up in those days...
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About the only thing that fits my budget...
When it comes to pre-1870 Base Ball, the only things that my budget allows are newspaper articles and woodcuts. Still, I love reading these early accounts of games in the prose of the day.
Here are a few from Newark, NJ in September 1855. I grew up right outside of Newark (South Orange, NJ). The name of the newspaper is the The Newark Daily Advertiser September 5, 1855 http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7tmqyuqh.jpg September 6, 1855. this one references a game at Hoboken between the Gothams and the Empires http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a...psrvhycwjr.jpg September 13, 1855. A match between the married mend and the single men http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a...psooplezpz.jpg September 20, 1855. Seems that there was a regular weekly game between the Married and Single men of the Newark Club Also announces the formation of the "Empire Club" as only the 5th organized club in the city. http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a...pszrxmebl3.jpg |
Great info, Chalupacollects. Thanks.
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other than a few early baseballs
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this is the only thing I have pre-1870 related to America's pastime. Most of my stuff is 1880-1890......... The teams represented major publishers of the day. The "gold" base ball is very neat.
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Here's one of my old favorites. It is almost a piece of folk art.
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Visited with Bruce's (Bgar3) and his collection this weekend.
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Thanks Jim, it was fun to meet someone from here. Your stories were priceless, thank you for a nice afternoon.
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1866 Harper's Weekly Woodcut
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Not sure what year this tintype is from but probably close to 1870?
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Just picked this up today at, of all places, the East Coast Nat'l show at White Plains, NY! I thought I might give my wife a few hours to herself so I took all three kids along with me and, to my great surprise, scored this super lemon peel ball!
The ball is full size for a lemon peel and has just the slightest of separation at one of the seams. The lacing is very small and very tight which, to me at least, reflects some real skill in construction. Jon www.dugouttreasures.com |
I am guessing all that follow this thread know about this auction
https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/g...com_hp_row2_p2 |
Nice ball, Jonathan.
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1887 Trophy
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This is one pf my favorite trophies, notice the ring bats and the Pill Box hat as well as the baseballs on the base. I have owned this for about a year but forgot that it was made in the 1880's
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Great trophy!
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Great looking ball Jonathan and trophy Bob! Can't ever remember seeing a trophy design such as that. This is a recent Heritage win. They described it as the earliest known California baseball scene. 1860s. Measures approximately 4.5 in by 8 in.
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Nice outdoor shot, Michael. Here's another one. Hoboken is written on the reverse.
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1860s New Marlboro Match Base Ball
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The first picture is a diagram of a baseball field with four names written on the bottom corner. The second picture is the "Rules and Regulations of the New Marlboro Match Base Ball Co." Notice the same four names on the bottom corner. The third picture is a signature of whom I am certain is responsible for drawing the diagram and the rules. The fancy signature "William Lewis Camp" is in an autograph album from the South Berkshire Institute dated 1863. The signatures of all four of the names written above are in this album which ties the whole lot to the South Berkshire Institute. The fourth picture is of the Institute located in New Marlboro, Mass. (I have shown this many times)
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I am glad you reposted it, I had never seen it, a super group. The Ballplayer's Pocket Companion has a whole section on the Massachusetts Game. Let me know if you want me to send pictures.
I also posted above, a stereoview of the Massachusetts game from about 1862. Love the piece and this whole thread |
Hey Shawn, I remember bidding on that diagram and how cool it was but I don't remember the rules page being with it or the autograph page. Were they all together or did you manage to piece it together? Really, really cool.
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Bgar3, I believe I have seen the Pocket Companion section on the Massachusetts Game - I do appreciate the offer to send pictures and nice Stereoview by the way! Ramram, shortly after winning the diagram - the lady contacted me and said she had something else that she thought should go with it and wanted to know if I was interested. I told her yes (sight unseen) I would like to purchase anything she had associated with the diagram. Once the package arrived the additional item turned out to be the Rules and Regulations! A month or two later I noticed she had listed the Autograph booklet and I purchased it well. |
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A side note: Richard Hershberger wrote an extensive article about these items in the Spring 2010 issue of John Thorns Base Ball -A Journal of the Early Game-
The Autograph Album belonged to Carrington Phelps but I believe the "whole lot" was drawn / created by W. L. Camp of whom in my opinion was probably the "class artist". Several of the little flourishes / handwriting etc. all match W. L. Camps Autograph page... Carrington Phelps went on to Yale and was quite a famous Rower accomplishing many firsts... There are 46 signatures in the album that belonged to Carrington Phelps. I have included a small list and am interested if there are any names of importance? W. L. Camp - Winsted, CT. Robert G. Fitch - Sheffield, Mass Charles J Townsend - Monterey, Mass Reginald Canning - Stockbridge, Mass George N. Hayward - CT. David Ives Bushnell - Sheffield, Mass A. B. Church - Wassaic, NY. William Taft - Sheffield, Mass John R Huggins - Sheffield, Mass Charles Stoddard - CT. Henry T Powell - New Marlboro, Mass Mason B. Smith - Mill River, Mass George C. Walter - Southfield, Mass Frank Warner - Mill River, Mass H. W. Rising - New Marlboro, Mass John P. Cook - Winsted, CT Edward G. Day - Barrington, Mass William H Clark - Sheffield, Mass W. H. Chapin - Barrington, Mass John B. Walker - New Marlboro, Mass |
1868 Ticket
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My Understanding was that Harry Wright and his traveling Cincinnati Red legs played the Baltimore Enterprise ball club. So an early ticket from a team with a place in baseball and specifically Baltimore baseball history.
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1894 Baltimore Pin
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One of the few pins that I own
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Well I have always admired the 1894 Baltimore pin. Since you posted it in a post where it is slightly (24 years) off topic. I am feeling a bit of Baltimore pride coming from you . Did you grow up there or just a fan? I saw there was a book written on Baseball in Baltimore before 1894. I hope to get a copy and read it soon. Great pin.
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Enterprises
Jonathan, the 1868 Red Stockings played the Enterprises team on September 25, winning 24 to 3, with Harry Wright.
The famous 1869 team did not play the Enterprises, but did play two Teams from Baltimore, the Pastimes and the Marylands, beating both 30 to 8. Glad you could connect the Enterprises item to the Baltimore team. Nice. |
Don't know if I posted this here but this is my invitation to the Una Base Ball Club's Calico Party on February 6, 1868. Unfortunately I missed the carriage and could not attend:
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