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This thread is actually interesting to read thru. I don't know why. Maybe because, sometimes you just gotta say WTF.
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The stamp and coin guy I've gone to since the mid 80's took back a coin that failed grading as "altered" I saw it, and yes, it was altered. The whole thing was done very easily, both of them recalled the sale but not the actual price. Buyer thought it had been "about X" and the dealer thought that sounded about right. Return, refund, coin labeled fake and kept in a special spot. Oh yeah, the time between sale and return 10 years+ There's a reason I still go there after 30 years. Steve B |
Brent, have you heard anything else from Jason?
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I have given a return and refund on a Dizzy Dean card after 2 yrs because the guy said he thought it was someone else on the card. :) . I take it on a case by case basis but usually will give a refund.
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Tough situation. Like most here, I think the time to return should be something less than 2-3 years. If most all your cards were graded or with letters, I can't understand why these cards would sit in your collection for years before you decide to authenticate them. For those kind of dollars, I would want as immediate confirmation as possible. Not sure there's a good solution. Maybe splitting the cost down the middle. Then you'll still have two pissed off people.
And I really don't like that Simmons........the Fabers look pretty good though. There's the rub with buying raw autographs. They might all be fake, but with a letter or encapsulated, most people aren't gonna question them at that point. |
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it was like this card but not this one.. I guess he bought it thinking it was Dizzy... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1934-Gold-Me...MAAOxyR7tTkRhB ps.... back to the subject at hand....I don't know autographs so will bow out of it.... . |
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Pardon me for using common sense but why is the questionable stuff still being discussed in 2017 ?? Shouldn't this have been handled by sending it out to be looked at by the experts years ago ( back in 2014 from those texts) and a decision rendered back then ? And a compromise worked out back then :confused:
Jeff p.s. Stop using JSA please- its not a "reliable" resource for vintage autos p.s.s . Steve B-- Mike and Pete can I ask ?? |
No card or money is worth your reputation period.
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I don't quite get the question though? The stamp and coin guy I go to is Mark Processi who owns Alan stamp and coin in Woodbury, CT The customer was some random guy I didn't know. I got to see a lot of stuff since I hung out at the shop for hours at a time. Maybe 3-4 hours some days, at least a couple days a week. After a while he'd give me store credit for doing some work. Sorting stuff, stapling coins into the 2x2 holders, pricing stamps. that sort of stuff. Steve B |
My wife is laying next to me reading a book, im on my phone reading this thread. No doubt this has been a lot more interesting than "Sunrise Crossing"
Hope it works out for all involved. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Just an update. Still no communications from Jason at all about trying to work something out.
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Maybe he didn't budget for someone coming back 3 years later for a refund?
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Maybe, maybe not. I can't speak on his behalf. But, maybe he should because of all of the bad autographs he has sold and tried to sell over the years. |
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Ridiculous time frames for a thousand Alex. |
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However even if it is unreasonable to ask for a refund for a 10 year transaction for example and just because you dont like the color anymore, IF the seller says he will refund it or make a trade of certain trade value, he is now on the hook if he does not come through. All the seller had to say was, 'its been 2 years buddy' no refunds. Plus this nonsense: "If the email had been less demanding I probably would have offered a refund, but I don't respond well to discourteousness" And then there is a later email saying that was probably not the truth by the seller. So now there are two issues the buy can rely on as to why he should get a refund even it is a ridiculous amount of time. Basically any party can agree to something more than is in a contract if they want but they dont have to in the first place. They shouldnt of offered it up. Your rent is due in 30 days, but you get an email from the landlord saying he will agree to another 70 days to pay. Well, now you got 70 days. Need to be careful what you say actually, though we do live in an age of alternative facts. Hope you enjoy my net54 grammar. |
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Yeah, it has certainly been interesting to say the least. I totally believe he knew exactly what he was doing selling me these cards and passing on the bad ones to others. On my end, I typically don't send out cards to get graded. But, I've certainly will be sending them out after I receive them to avoid and potential issues. I admit I certainly could have been better in those regards. But I whole heartedly am willing to bet this was all part of his plan. Trying to sell the Simmons a year prior for $2,500 then offers $1,250 (because he knows it's bad). Or his "Hornsby". That's a $5k+ card that he tried selling for around $1,500. The list goes on and on. |
I may have missed this, but on cards purchased in Dec. 2014, why wait until 2017 to submit them for authentication?
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Had no real dire need to send them in. I don't really like to mail out that many expensive cards and would rather do IP services. But after this, I'm certainly going to send stuff in right away to hopefully avoid any potential issues down the road. |
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You can owe a debt and the statute of limitations passes and then make another agreement to pay. The clock starts again. So the first clock started 3 years ago but the second clock started only for a week or so when the guy found out the seller wasnt going to come through Shouldnt keep starting up clock |
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