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I am not sure it matters. You have one guy on the face of the planet that wanted to spend a monstrous sum of money over what the card is probably worth on a card that is at my guess a low population and also low demand.
If he or I was a business man, that was the right time to sell. It is likely worth less to a lot of other people. Values, morals or not, it will likely never be sold for more than what was offered, but I have definitely been wrong before. LOL. |
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Zinn was Jewish
only if his MOTHER was Jewish or she had converted from a religious standpoint. Not sure what the rules for the Jewish Museum are (self-serving?). He could still practice the faith in either case.
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But, even if one were to adopt this broader standard, Zinn's status remains unclear as the Wechsler article states that BOTH of his parents were Christians. I would be most interested in learning the basis for that conclusion, which would appear to be inconsistent with the HOF library form completed by Zinn's daughter. To square the conclusion that both parents were Christians with the form would require quite a stretch -- that Zinn's daughter interpreted the term 'ancestry' to mean the folks in the 'old country' and not necessarily Zinn's religion. |
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If you think that hasn't hurt the value of this card I have a large box of Jose Fernandez rookie card I would like to sell you.
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love barry classy all the way ,,,
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Thanks, Adam.
You know it also occurred to me that, while certainly not the most likely explanation for squaring Zinn's alleged Christian parents with the HOF form, it is possible that he merely claimed to be Jewish, for whatever reason I cannot imagine. But, I believe another early ballplayer (Jacob Atz?) apparently did that very thing. |
For Zinn to be considered Jewish, it would only be necessary for his mother to be Jewish, correct? So Zinn, his father, is not terribly relevant. It would be his mother. It would be interesting to know her story and maiden name. They could have then chose to raise their kids Christian, following the father's faith.
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"Aeder balked because, he said, he received a poor appraisal of the card’s condition". "The final grade disturbed Aeder. “The pictures he had sent did not look like it was a one,” Aeder said". |
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I got the impression that the buyer was always planning to try to lower the purchase price. He asked Dan to have the card graded so that he had an excuse to negotiate a reduced price. Just my opinion, but I don't think the buyer ever intended to buy at that price. As Dan said, 1 of 1 is the only number that matters.
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I have NO doubt that Dan is telling the truth about this transaction. Absolutely none.
As I don't know Mr. Aeder, I could not speak to his motives. |
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If I was willing to pay six figures for a card, you can be damn sure I would fly to wherever it resided to look at the in person before finalizing an offer. This whole debacle coming down to the quality of scans is absurd, imho.
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And it's even more apparent that the butthurt is flowing through this guy pretty heavily right now. |
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I too believe dan
Count me among those who believe Dan's account 100%.
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Since this is all memorialized in scans and emails the trail is pretty clear. From where I sit it looks like a straightforward breach of contract case with a substantial loss of profit claim and some consequential damages. I would sue but that's because I can represent myself for free.
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I don't care about "the hit" The problem with the hobby is it is all about money, I will gladly get buried with this card, I do not need the money... GET IT? |
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I had nothing to do with him being Jewish, and could care less either way as I collect the Baltimore News Schedule cards. You people are way to into the value part of the hobby, I have refused tons of money for cards that I will never be able to sell later for the same amount. Dan Mckee |
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I sell as darby-s and you get what you see in my listings Thanks for reminding me why I stopped posting here |
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When this first happened I posted here asking if anyone has done business with Aeder because I had a bad transaction. One guy answered that this was the funniest thing he had ever heard.... well I hope he read the article.
Personally I thought the card belonged in Jeff's museum even though I never part with my schedule cards. But with a deal gone sour, I am very happy to keep it whether it is worth the $2K I paid for it or not. Dan Mckee. |
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Of course it didn't look like a 1, it is a gorgeous card, has color all the way to the edge like a 1971 topps, has a horizontal crease and a tiny spot of paperloss on back. Killer eye appeal but a technical grade of 1, and all he wanted was that it was authenticated because he is too stupid to know the cards himself. Let some 25 year old kid tell him it is real, well I didn't need that when I just mashed those Washington Times cards on ebay..... No need for some punk grading service to tell me they are real......
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While you go retrieve that one to quote, read the one above and tell me where I personally accuse you of actually doing that. :confused: |
Sadly Irv, I do not read well at 54 years old and a Redneck
But I truly hope you do not think I am near the scumbag Battlefield is. I am a collector at heart and pride myself on good business. Sorry I missed your follow up posts Dan |
I used to thrive on here, probably started more crap than I should have and was a real asshole at times.... Now I am old and too thin skinned to come back, kinda sad as I could really bring a lot of quality knowledge about the 1987 Topps set that I specialize in.
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I have always wondered what kind of wood is used in the borders of the 1987 Topps set. |
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