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rats60 09-06-2016 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagerookies51 (Post 1582087)
What are everyone's thoughts on the final price? Really low for a 2 IMO but perhaps closer to what it would get if it was in a "1" holder like it should be

I thought it was a little high. PWCC sold a PSA 2 Plank last year that was nicer for 33K which had sold for 31K 2 years earlier. REA sold one for 41K in 2012 that is the nicest of the three. Plank isn't really one of those cards that is being bought up by speculators.

jchcollins 09-06-2016 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rookiemonster (Post 1581610)
You know this is excaly what the issue with graded cards is.

Agreed. Funny how we continue to see regular grading discrepancies like this even with big name cards. Although the birth of grading with PSA and Bill Mastro's trimmed Wagner ushered in the initial controversy more than 25 years ago. PSA in particular seems to be wildly inconsistent on how they change standards over time. At the end of the day I suppose it just goes to show that excellence (or NM or VG or G or P...) is in the eye of the beholder, even among professional graders. I'll stick with how I learned to grade from hobby publications in the 1980's. I don't at all get how a card with paper loss like that (or whiteout or whatever it is...) would be a 2; any other T-206 common like that probably would have been a 1 all day long.

Billy5858 09-06-2016 11:15 PM

I would have bought it if it wasn't
for the whiteout stains. J/K
Just didn't look like a clean 2 to me
Are there any ripped, pinholed, paper losses PSA Auth
out there for around 5k to get me up
Higher on the Net54 Monster list?

RedsFan1941 09-07-2016 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshchisox08 (Post 1581032)
That is a very gracious 2 handed out by PSA there. Perhaps it didn't get a 1 because it's a Plank.

Any other card that would NEVER get a 2.

I wondered about this but wanted to wait until the aucion was over until I asked a question. Did anyone see this LaJoie and wander how a card with staple holes could not be graded a 1?

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

Topps206 09-07-2016 08:55 AM

I guess I need to save up for many years and then cash in when the time is right.

jchcollins 09-07-2016 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RedsFan1941 (Post 1582247)
I wondered about this but wanted to wait until the aucion was over until I asked a question. Did anyone see this LaJoie and wander how a card with staple holes could not be graded a 1?

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

If I'm remembering correctly, that's how Goudey mailed out the Lajoie cards to collectors that requested them by mail in 1934 and later (stapled to the letter), so all that were sent that way supposedly have the staple holes. I would not agree that makes them anything more than PSA 1's at most either, but I'm sure that if a justification for a higher grade was ever needed, that's probably what it was.

ullmandds 09-07-2016 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins (Post 1582255)
If I'm remembering correctly, that's how Goudey mailed out the Lajoie cards to collectors that requested them by mail in 1934 and later (stapled to the letter), so all that were sent that way supposedly have the staple holes. I would not agree that makes them anything more than PSA 1's at most either, but I'm sure that if a justification for a higher grade was ever needed, that's probably what it was.

the story I've always heard was mailing goudey was the only way to acquire this card...it seems that there are many high grade lajoies. I have never heard that these cards were stapled?

RedsFan1941 09-07-2016 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins (Post 1582255)
If I'm remembering correctly, that's how Goudey mailed out the Lajoie cards to collectors that requested them by mail in 1934 and later (stapled to the letter), so all that were sent that way supposedly have the staple holes. I would not agree that makes them anything more than PSA 1's at most either, but I'm sure that if a justification for a higher grade was ever needed, that's probably what it was.

I have see far more goudey LaJoies with no staple holes than ones with them, fwiw.

ullmandds 09-07-2016 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RedsFan1941 (Post 1582258)
I have see far more goudey LaJoies with no staple holes than ones with them, fwiw.

agree

CW 09-07-2016 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins (Post 1582255)
If I'm remembering correctly, that's how Goudey mailed out the Lajoie cards to collectors that requested them by mail in 1934 and later (stapled to the letter), so all that were sent that way supposedly have the staple holes. I would not agree that makes them anything more than PSA 1's at most either, but I'm sure that if a justification for a higher grade was ever needed, that's probably what it was.

Nope, that's incorrect. :) What you are thinking of is the belief that many of the Lajoie cards were sent to collectors paperclipped to a letter, so many of the '33 Goudey Lajoie cards will exhibit a paperclip indentation.

Leon 09-10-2016 03:01 PM

35k seems about right....nice card

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1581002)
Plank is a great card but this one isn't even that pleasing to the eye, imo. I guess any Plank is a good Plank though. :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-T206...QAAOSwMtxXwi9a


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FourStrikes 09-10-2016 03:18 PM

wouldn't exactly call this card "fugly" - I'm not a high-end card guy w/deep pockets, but IF I was, I'd be happy to add this example to my collection rather than one with heavy creasing, etc.

JMO.

DS


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