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irv 05-03-2016 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1534869)
OK...well has anyone been contaced by a TPG'er afer a submission...to be notified that they have dramatically undervalued a submitted card(s) and that they will have to pay a higher fee if they want the card graded?
When I found out they were charging $700 for a $10,000 card, I questioned what is so special/different about a $10,000 dollar card compared to a $9,000 dollar card or less?

I believe it was answered above, but I initially thought PSA, seeing your good fortune also wanted a piece of the action?

Just curious, do any of you see either of these cards costing me $700 dollars U.S. ($1000+ CdN) to get these graded?

begsu1013 05-03-2016 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1535021)
$700, wow - does the increased grading fee get your more eyes or a more expert grader? Or is it just participation in the secondary value of the card? Don't give me the blah blah blah about how it is about insuring a more valuable card against loss or damage on the premises.
yes to just about all.

more informed grader.
a hellavu lot faster service. usually same day.
notes as to what held it back.

the notion of sending it to an auction house to have them submit is a pretty good idea though. kudos there.

not sure pwcc would do it considering their "certified high end" program. however, I do not know that as fact and basically speaking outta my @ss there.

but the auction house submittal is still brilliant nevertheless.

Peter_Spaeth 05-03-2016 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1535030)
Once again, I'm not an SGC fan, but his best option for improvement with least possible expense, might be to try and bump the SGC grade.....Card quite possibly could be an SGC 98 with a little luck...
How do we know? We haven't seen the back or looked at the corners under a loupe. The card looks great from the front scan, but other than the guy who has it in hand, it's all speculation.

Bestdj777 05-03-2016 09:18 PM
Irv, given the value of your Mantle, it would only cost you $85.00 to have PSA grade it, plus shipping both ways. Not sure the value on the Mays, but it should cost more than the Mantle to grade. You might even be able to squeeze it in at a lower price level.

pokerplyr80 05-03-2016 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bestdj777 (Post 1535084)
Irv, given the value of your Mantle, it would only cost you $85.00 to have PSA grade it, plus shipping both ways. Not sure the value on the Mays, but it should cost more than the Mantle to grade. You might even be able to squeeze it I at a lower price level.
This sounds right. Declare the Mantle's value at 4,900 and the Mays at 1,900. Grading fees will be 85 and 40 plus shipping both ways. If those were my cards I would get them out of those cases right away and would sumbit them to PSA. Good luck either way.

Leon 05-04-2016 06:31 AM
How does one go about getting the less informed grader, pay less?



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Originally Posted by begsu1013 (Post 1535079)
yes to just about all.

more informed grader.
a hellavu lot faster service. usually same day.
notes as to what held it back.

the notion of sending it to an auction house to have them submit is a pretty good idea though. kudos there.

not sure pwcc would do it considering their "certified high end" program. however, I do not know that as fact and basically speaking outta my @ss there.

but the auction house submittal is still brilliant nevertheless.

Stonepony 05-04-2016 07:39 AM
Are submission sources NOT blinded to the grader? If no, please explain.

begsu1013 05-04-2016 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1535160)
How does one go about getting the less informed grader, pay less?
by sending subs to bccg or pro grading....

Leon 05-04-2016 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by begsu1013 (Post 1535177)
by sending subs to bccg or pro grading....
This city is in California already, home of PSA. I think it might be where the less informed graders are...

and I should add, I have no issue with PSA and most of my valuable cards, in my current collection, are in PSA holders as that is how they came :)...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slab_City


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begsu1013 05-04-2016 08:07 AM
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rjackson44 05-04-2016 08:17 AM
agree with pete

irv 05-04-2016 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bestdj777 (Post 1535084)
Irv, given the value of your Mantle, it would only cost you $85.00 to have PSA grade it, plus shipping both ways. Not sure the value on the Mays, but it should cost more than the Mantle to grade. You might even be able to squeeze it in at a lower price level.
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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1535097)
This sounds right. Declare the Mantle's value at 4,900 and the Mays at 1,900. Grading fees will be 85 and 40 plus shipping both ways. If those were my cards I would get them out of those cases right away and would sumbit them to PSA. Good luck either way.
Thanks for the info guys.

Was hoping you'd all say my Mays would cost me $700 but that was wishful thinking! ;)

I know the slabs are a bad idea, and when I originally read about them back in January when I joined this site, panic set in and I checked them.

Thankfully I didn't screw them down any tighter than I had too back then as when I unscrewed them, both cards slid easily inside them.
I also never laid them flat or on top of one another. They were stored on their sides only.

I am going to bite the bullet and likely get them slabbed soon, but in the mean time, I think I am still going to remove them and place in penny sleeves/top loaders or purchase some Pro Mold one screw vintage holders.

Thanks again for the input/replies. :)

Tao_Moko 05-04-2016 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by begsu1013 (Post 1534732)
hadn't read the entire thread, but

here's a formula i tend to stick to:

1. submit in holder for a cross. be sure to designate a 9 as minimum grade.*
2. do not expect it to cross the first, second or third time.
3. after the 3rd strike, try a minimum grade of 8.5
4. repeat.
5. once/if it crosses submit for a bump a couple of times.


i would not advise cracking anything out of that magnitude.

have had several nice examples cross/bump using this formula.

it does carry some significant consideration in submittal fees, but the eventual landing of a 9 will most definitely recoupe any and all resources and then a whole lot more.

tell me how southern italy was and send some limoncello and a post card.

* this is very important. if you do not mark a 9 as minimum grade, they will crack it out and grade at whatever they seem fit. as long as you mark a 9 as the MG then your card will stay encapsulated in the sgc holder.

And people continue to pay for the grade? Evidence of an extremely flawed system if what you say actually works. Not to derail the thread on tpg bashing, but c'mon!


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