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ullmandds 01-22-2015 10:21 AM

lots of good guesses so far guys...and some not so good ones too!!!!!:D Still no winner though!


Apparently with our hundreds of years of vintage card experience...and that's just Frank...we are not qualified to be "professional" graders!

Mikehealer 01-22-2015 10:31 AM

8.5
nm/mt+

Fred 01-22-2015 10:36 AM

Authentic because PSA indicates someone altered the card by removing the name text.

2 because of the rounded corners and small surface crease.

Cool card.

Sean 01-22-2015 10:36 AM

Authentic (Altered)

t206blogcom 01-22-2015 10:37 AM

8 oc

Leon 01-22-2015 10:40 AM

My last guess because I don't see it listed (could have missed it).

PSA 2.5

ps...looks like post #4 already guessed it, I give up. :)

freakhappy 01-22-2015 10:42 AM

rejected for min size or...

you came to your senses and never sent it in to PSA :p

ullmandds 01-22-2015 10:44 AM

still no 100% correct answer yet...a few are very close! No former PSA graders here who can offer their expertise?

ullmandds 01-22-2015 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freakhappy (Post 1370212)
rejected for min size or...

you came to your senses and never sent it in to PSA :p

or rejected for maximum size????

freakhappy 01-22-2015 10:48 AM

authentic missing ink

tiger8mush 01-22-2015 10:48 AM

.5

Must've been deemed at least authentic, cuz I can't imagine REA would put a $10 card with an erased name in their auction. So it must be unaltered. And everything from 1 thru 3.5 has been guessed already

ullmandds 01-22-2015 10:53 AM

the frustration is palpable friends! the frustration many of us feel upon finding out what grades our cards received upon arrival from the graders.

ullmandds 01-22-2015 10:54 AM

thanks to everyone for keeping me entertained throughout my morning...hint hint hint...there is a qualifier.

freakhappy 01-22-2015 10:56 AM

3(mk)

D.P.Johnson 01-22-2015 10:58 AM

The flip indicates it's authentic but incorrectly names the player as Jay Leno because of his large chin???

ullmandds 01-22-2015 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.P.Johnson (Post 1370229)
The flip indicates it's authentic but incorrectly names the player as Jay Leno because of his large chin???

good one! A for creativity!

Eric72 01-22-2015 11:02 AM

1 (oc)

Peter_Spaeth 01-22-2015 11:05 AM

3 (pd)

Jobu 01-22-2015 11:07 AM

Staying with 2.0 but adding an OC --- 2.0 (OC).

tiger8mush 01-22-2015 11:10 AM

1 (pd)
1.5 (pd)
2 (pd)
3 (pd)

pd is the only qualifier I can imagine it getting ...

http://www.psacard.com/Services/PSAGradingStandards

curtis-cards 01-22-2015 11:16 AM

I'm going with 4 (pd). Slightly rounded corners and graded by PSA.

What do I win?

ullmandds 01-22-2015 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger8mush (Post 1370240)
1 (pd)
1.5 (pd)
2 (pd)
3 (pd)

pd is the only qualifier I can imagine it getting ...

http://www.psacard.com/Services/PSAGradingStandards

now that's just bad etiquette...multiple guesses at once!!! Think outside the box...this is PSA after all.

bn2cardz 01-22-2015 11:21 AM

2 MC. They are assuming the name was cut off.

dog*dirt 01-22-2015 11:22 AM

Not able to grade. Altered stock?

tiger8mush 01-22-2015 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1370245)
Think outside the box...this is PSA after all.

So it got an OF (out of focus) qualifier? Phillippe's name is actually there, its just so out of focus you can't see it

bnorth 01-22-2015 11:36 AM

2.5 (PD) my guess but wouldn't doupt the old AUTHENTIC N-O

t206hound 01-22-2015 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1370247)
2 MC. They are assuming the name was cut off.

I'm with ÄñÐ¥. Based on the guesses thus far, they must have given it a MC qualifier (why will always remain a mystery).

ullmandds 01-22-2015 11:41 AM

you guys have suffered long enough...the grade is

PSA 1(MC)

And I agree...how is this card miscut?

gregr2 01-22-2015 11:41 AM

Yay!! I had the 1 right!

ullmandds 01-22-2015 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1370247)
2 MC. They are assuming the name was cut off.

cut off from where? the extra fat bottom border????

asoriano 01-22-2015 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1370265)
you guys have suffered long enough...the grade is

PSA 1(MC)

And I agree...how is this card miscut?

:confused::confused::confused:

bobbyw8469 01-22-2015 11:44 AM

I never saw the back so I cant speak for the qualifier without totally seeing the card.

bn2cardz 01-22-2015 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1370270)
cut off from where? the extra fat bottom border????

Well you asked for a reason and that is the only reason I could come up with. I originally only thought MC because of how quickly you jumped on the first time miscut was brought up, yet never asked any one else to explain their qualifiers :D

I assume they are saying it is MC because that is the designation that has worked for every other previous "No Name" they got, it just doesn't apply this time.

ullmandds 01-22-2015 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 1370277)
Well you asked for a reason and that is the only reason I could come up with. I originally only thought MC because of how quickly you jumped on the first time miscut was brought up, yet never asked any one else to explain their qualifiers :D

I assume they are saying it is MC because that is the designation that has worked for every other previous "No Name" they got, it just doesn't apply this time.

yes Andy...after I responded to your guess I thought I was giving it away!!!!

Has nothing to do with the back...which there is a scan of in an older t206 w/no name thread.

bn2cardz 01-22-2015 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1370273)
I never saw the back so I cant speak for the qualifier without totally seeing the card.

He posted this in the original thread http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1407719632

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=191524

mrvster 01-22-2015 11:52 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
 
this is a toughie....

mrvster 01-22-2015 11:53 AM

I notices on eBAY....
 
AT FIRST.....Chris asked me, I told him not to bid....

problem- nnof are not recognized anymore:confused:

mrvster 01-22-2015 11:55 AM

Problem.....
 
true "no names" have become not "politically" correct......anymore....why???:confused:

NO ONE HAS THE NUTS TO GRADE THEM!!

there....I said it!

mrvster 01-22-2015 11:58 AM

why???
 
they are too hard to discern apparently......too many forgers/ erasures...

Pete.....the problem with your name is the "brown" layer associated with the caption....there is no "jump"

off the bottom....

these , I wish, were better ways to determine a true "no name"


this "could've" been a miscut with a "low" struck" caption, but there is no "brown" layer "jump"....but that doesn't explain it entirely....

I own both printer's scrap "true" no names" and a factory cut "caption" jump...

very confusing....:confused:

mrvster 01-22-2015 12:04 PM

For example....
 
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this example is only 1 of 2 known to exist!!!!!:eek:

the other is Del Howard(which I believe Keith owns, but not sure due to losing it on Ebay many years ago).......

full caption "jump"

extremely rare.....extremely valuable.....I am dying to see another example???:confused:anyone??? I have been searching for 15 years plus!:eek:

vthobby 01-22-2015 12:11 PM

No way!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1370265)
you guys have suffered long enough...the grade is

PSA 1(MC)

And I agree...how is this card miscut?

You are correct, that is graded a 1 MC but it is definitely not a 1 and it is also not MC.

Maybe we can start a grading company that can slab the slab and put the REAL grade on the outside slab......hmmmmm :eek:

I'd say its a (MG).

MG=Misgraded.

Peace, mike

wolf441 01-22-2015 12:14 PM

A slight name jump
 
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Best I can do!

mrvster 01-22-2015 12:14 PM

Mike....
 
your not too far off;)

mrvster 01-22-2015 12:15 PM

Steve....
 
great great example.....there is a warhop out there like yours....notice the brown"jump";)

mrvster 01-22-2015 12:17 PM

the Del....
 
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:D

mrvster 01-22-2015 12:21 PM

the only
 
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caption right shift ever known to survive!!:confused::D:)

I LOVE THIS CARD...prob one of my favorites:D......

mrvster 01-22-2015 12:22 PM

how about some
 
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"true no names scraps":D

asoriano 01-22-2015 12:24 PM

Here you go Johnny...
 
http://goodwinandco.com/LotDetail.as...entoryid=10826

mrvster 01-22-2015 12:28 PM

Turner
 
Almost buddy! the caption lies on the "border" ......I knew who owned that....if it shifted fully inside the border, you have to add another zero to the hammer at least:D;)......only 2 known examples of "full jump"....

the randall and howard....

I'm still searching tho after 15 + years!:eek:

mrvster 01-22-2015 12:52 PM

how about these twins???
 
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:confused::D true "no names" my favorite twins!:)


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