For the 95% who may not have been on the board for the legendary NYC dinner thread:

About eight years or so ago, a bunch of us who live around NYC decided to get together for a dinner somewhere in Manhattan. I started the thread and it seemed easy enough. Just get a list of the people who were in, pick a restaurant, set a time, and get together. Well, it would have been easier to achieve world peace than it was to get the group to agree on a place, a day, a time, or on any other aspect of it. The thread went to more than 500 posts and ended in rancor, with many quitting and saying they no longer wanted to be a part of it. There must have been a civics lesson in there somewhere- how do you get a group of like minded people who refused to agree on anything to finally come together.

We did eventually meet and had a great time, but the thread has lived in hobby lore.

Okay, let's do another NYC dinner. Where? When? Who's in? Ha.

If I am not mistaking I was ready to buy a plane ticket (already ok'd by my wife) to go have Dinner with everyone....then at the last minute Jim Crandall came in and the whole thing changed and I bowed out. Those were the days!!

That sounds familiar Leon. And yes, Jim C. had a very narrow window when he could make it, and it did not jibe with the others. So we just fought and fought for days. On some level it was kind of funny.

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My take on claims that cards are great candidates for bumps -- if they were that great candidates, the sellers would do it themselves. I would never buy a card based on the belief it would get into a higher holder.

While I agree with you about not buying a card based on it getting into a higher grade holder, I wouldn't completely dismiss the possibility. I know there will be at least a few cards in our upcoming auction (still taking consignments, shameless plug :)) that are in quite old holders and are indeed great candidates. The consignors didn't care about the holders and feel that with large scans the cards will sell themselves; I agree. But to buy a card thinking it will definitely bump up is not a wise strategy long term.

Agree. There's always the chance for a half point bump on any card; many people would never bother to submit such a card prior to selling it. And as Leon says, I've got undergraded cards which are 1/1 in a 40 holder; it makes no sense to resubmit them for a bump because the value is in the rarity and not the grade.

You're right Barry. Wilson had an easier time founding the League of Nations.
I've seen your name on the docs that you were on that panel too. :)

I never dismissed the possibility. I just think in almost all cases (especially if the card is already a .5 as this one is) it's relatively if not highly unlikely, and I don't like it as a sales pitch.

Yeah, that card already got a "bump" to 1.5

On the other hand, SGC recently give me a full point bump on a CJ 14.

Wow! This thread took a hard 180 degree turn with this post. Or was this card going to be the topic of discussion at the next NYC dinner?

It's being offered by the OP with a "great candidate for a bump" pitch.

Actually its sold. Lets keep it going though fellas.

This went from being the worst thread ever to being tolerable thanks to a pretty decent thread jacking.

Nice job.

Mentions of Jim C and "bumps" in the same thread, mutually exclusively, just seems flat-out wrong. :D

I wonder what has become of all those slabs?


Ah, those were the days.

Did they "give" it to you or did you pay for it? ;)

[QUOTE=Peter_Spaeth;1320327]It's being offered by the OP with a "great candidate for a bump" pitch.[/QUOE]

Thanks Pete for helping me find my way back to the beginning and allowing me to make heads or tails of this imbecility.

Directing this thread back to the original topic (maybe a bad idea:eek:), but just seeing it and wish I'd chimed in earlier--- I had probably my best overall N54 dealing/transaction with Dan. Should add- I've never had a bad transaction here (out of dozens), but Dan was great to deal with and a total class act prior to/during/post sale. For many reasons this will remain one of my most memorable pick ups. Thanks again Dan.

That said, I have very little issue with anything said in Ed's PM's either, and have exchanged pleasant messages with him re-offered cards. Overall, seemed to be much ado about nothing (or very little)... a minor disagreement, or even just a misunderstanding between two guys. IMO, probably better that it have been dealt with privately, but at the end of the day not a big deal on either side.

... now back to dinner in NYC, bumps and all other unrelated topics.

I really didn't want to post in this but since Gobucsmagic74-Dan wanted to put my username in the post and delete what he really said, I figured I would repost it so everyone can see in the future. Not sure why he deleted it as it was said to me.

"Card sold on eBay within 2 hrs of listing. Not only that, but payment is being sent via paypal gift f/f and the deal will be canceled on ebay after receipt. So in summary, $1295, and will be splitting the ebay fees of $130 minus shipping. I just wanted to keep you fully in the loop since you showed such grave concern and skepticism. In other words, bite me."

For quick reference, here is the link on eBay that is being referred to.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-Cracker...item2ed65cdee2