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Hi Kirk. Kim Marks here. Been a long time. I see you have gotten back into the Post Cereal football since we last were in contact many years ago. Great to see. I have a question for you if I might. Throughout this thread of posts, you reference the Unitas card to be an Alpha Bits individual card coming from Treat Paks. While I totally agree it is an Alpha Bits individual card, I was wondering how you are able to say it came from the six package variety Treat Paks as opposed to a 10 cereal variety package 10 Treys? For me, while probably pushing 80 total cards of the 6 players of the individual alpha bit cards and never seen any difference in the cropping, blue around the outside covering the right two thirds of the card, or other telltale identification markings, I was hopeful you could tell me how you knew that information. I have the complete 10 Trey package which I showed you a number of years ago. So I know those ABI cards exist. But I've never heard anyone say with certainty cards existed on Treat Paks in that issue, and if they did it has always seems certain to me that they were exactly the same cards and you could not tell them apart. So any light you can shed would be very appreciated. If you still live in the area that you used to, maybe we can get together again sometime. Have some interesting new material related to post cereal football that I've acquired in the 15 years or whatever it's been since those meetings at your house.
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Once again, thank you Kirk for posting photos of all of your cool Post Cereal memorabilia!
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Wow, just WOW! Although I've had my Post set started for a while, I am just now beginning to see uncut panels and flattened cereal boxes that have survived all these years. But it's simply amazing that a complete package like that has survived intact. It had to have been in the back room of a grocery store all that time.
This picture and a couple of the earlier ones with this showcase of cards is phenomenal to me. Not just the Post items but all the other cool things in the case as well, like the Bazooka cards and that really neat Gridiron Greats blotter in the upper left. |
I have to admit I never really cared for the Post cards, but you guys are changing my mind, love these pics.
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No more awesome photo posts of trinkets from this set!? What gives?
A while back I bought a complete back panel on eBay. They do show up every once in long while. At the time, I think I paid around $100 for it. Ever since then, when I've seen one, and depending what stars are on the panel, they can reach $300 easy. I still fantasize about a complete set on uncut back panels. Doable...maybe, but I'm not a rich man. |
One thing I've always wondered:
Is it possible to collect a complete, basic, set on uncut panels, without duplicating any cards? |
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This is a great thread; thanks for posting!
Perhaps I am tired but I seem to have missed this: I get that there are cards on the big packages of cereal and on the tray that held the single servings. Were there cards on the single serving boxes too? |
Not sure, but I doubt it. I've never seen one. I've managed to save images of all the box panels I've seen. Maybe I should post a couple! There are different sized boxes that had less than the standard seven cards on them. I know of 3-card, 4-card, 5-card, and 6-card back panels. The six card panel I've seen may have been with the top (or 7th card) and header chopped off though, so I can't confirm that one.
Edit: Correction...there are 6-card box panels, confirmed. |
If I get a chance I will post some "Post" items that haven't been posted in this thread- Stay Tuned !
BTW - A complete mint set of 62 Post Cereal in uncut Panels does exists. I know someone who owns it. |
I am surprised that you don't own a set Carl! You have everything else.
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Here's a couple of the smaller, and harder to find back panels. The first one with three cards is from a Grape Nuts box I believe.
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It was late in the fall of 1962. My family and I lived in Skokie, Illinois. I was in third grade, and struggling mightily to comprehend English grammar.
My teacher, Miss Lewis, was a young, very attractive woman, and very nice. Patient. All of us kids loved her. I just couldn't seem to understand breaking the English language down. Among many of the vicissitudes, the participles were too much for this simpleton, and I was falling apart with self-doubt. Moreover, I was very shy, and had a speech impediment. My mother and father even hired Miss Lewis to tutor me one evening a week. Well, early one afternoon she called me up to her desk. She showed me the back of a box of Post Cereal. There before me were 7 beautiful Post football cards, of players I had never seen. She said something to the effect that if I was able to complete the current challenging English assignment, I could have the panel! You better believe I worked hard and got the assignment done. True to her word, she presented me with the panel. I don't remember any of the other boys saying anything to me about the matter, and I sure didn't want to incur their wrath or jealousy. We were a close bunch though, and they knew I was having great difficulty with English grammar. I was so touched she thought that much of me to give me a whole panel of Post Cereal football cards---none of them familiar to me! In retrospect, I imagine she took good care of herself and ate a healthier cereal, such as a large box of Post Grape Nuts Flakes. No kid with good taste wanted THAT! Which, of course, explains why I had never seen those Post football stars. Grape Nuts Flakes was an adult variety of breakfast cereal consumed by the geriatric set, and the few health nuts of the time. Being a low percentage of their cereal-consuming population, Post did not print very many boxes of the larger size Grape Nuts Flakes. Throughout the Post baseball and football trading card promotions, a decent number of the short prints could be found on the Grape Nuts Flakes boxes. When I went cereal hunting while my Mom grocery shopped, I never thought to look at the back of those boxes. It never occurred to me as my mind was on Alpha-Bits, Sugar Crisp, and a couple others. Besides, on top of that, grocers stocked them on the top shelf, where I could not as yet reach. I still wound up having to repeat third grade, which really was good for me. Most of my Post football cards were tossed during the move our family made in '64. Fortunately, my Post baseball cards were saved. I have a very tender and special place in my heart for Miss Lewis. Never will I forget her kindness and thoughtfulness to me. The cards I may not have, but the memory, this time, is even more precious. A famous quote of Maya Angelou comes to my mind when I remember dear Miss Lewis: "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel." Here is a case where I cherish what she did, how that made me feel, and the smile and genuine look of kindness on her face.:o ---Brian Powell |
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63 factory had to send away card by card
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6-card Post Cereal Panel, Meredith
Was anyone watching the three 6-card panels that ended tonight? I was hoping to win the one with Meredith but it was just out of my reach.
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I saw several panels end a couple week ago, and was in awe at what they ended at. Never looked at them before, so I am sure it was just that I am unfamiliar with them. I had a guy at a local show about a month ago, offer me a panel with Unitas on it. He wanted $175 for it, which I thought was a bit high, until I saw what they go for on ebay. Thinking back, I might should have gotten it. Maybe he'll be at the next show in September.
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Picked up this hit by accident at the National Convention in the .50c bin now five cards remain:
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Last hit came in the mail a couple of days ago from a member of my trading club (OBC). Another SP Cowboy #139 Allen Green. The picture had come apart from the cardboard so I broke out the Elmers glue and solved that. Looks like this card spent some time in a sewer:) Four left to complete my set………
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Indiana cornfields
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I think I mentioned this card originated from Randy--he probably found it in a corn field. Elmers fixes pretty much anything. |
*correction: "looks like the card spent some time in a corn field"
Real glad to cross this one off my list. Thanks again Peter. Or Randy:D |
Wanted to check in and report a hit to my short wantlist:) I won this three card lot of SP cards on ebay which included #28 Del Shofner which I needed for my set. $9.99 plus $3 to ship and I'm down to needing two more cards the extra tough #93 Dave Baker and #117 Larry Morris.
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This is one of the best threads that I have ever read on Net54baseball! Thanks to all contributors.
I had a few of the 1962 Post as a kid, but only two survived. None anywhere close to the condition on those pictured with the razor sharp edges. This one was signed many years after it's year of issue. Still love the St. Louis Football Cardinals! |
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1962 Post Cereal Uncut sheet - make offer if interested
Love that you guys are so passionate about this set.
Any interest in this would like it to go to a good home http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/...psztsndllb.jpg |
anyone have a resource for complete back panels?
Love the uncut sheet/back panel! Does anyone have a website that shows the different back panels? I am pretty certain we ate Rick Krinkles and Alphabets in my house during the 1962 season--but would like to match up some of my childhood Post cards with the appropriate cereals.
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Post Football Card to Panel Distribution
Peter--Been a while and hope you are doing well. Believe this is what you were hoping to find in your Net54 note the other day. Give a yell if this does not do the job. I cut and pasted a document I developed, so the alignment is a bit odd.
1962 Post Cereal Football--Player to Panel Display-(each panel shown horizontally) 8 oz.. Alpha-Bits 12 Starr 31 Barnes 50 Karras 68 Morrow 87 Pellington 106 Atkins 22 Livingston 39 Peaks 56 Morrall 72 Schafrath 80 Mackey 101 Owens 115 Jones 128 Michaels 143 Moegle 152 Hill 166 Lundy 184 Tarkenton 124 Henry 142 Meredith 160 Arnett 178 Mason 195 Paluck 6 Hornung 13 oz.. Alpha-Bits 11 Ringo 30 Webster 49 Glass 67 Mitchell 86 Parker 105 Woodson 123 Green 57 Ninowski 73 Smith 79 Donovan 102 Smith 116 Morris 127 Lipscomb 172 Ryan 140 Howton 151 Gautt 165 LoVetere 185 Triplett 191 Horner 3 Forester 18 Gaiters 141 Lilly 159 Childress 177 Lapham 194 Dugan 7 Jordan 23 Lynch 40 Retzlaff Post Tens Trays 10 Moore 29 Tittle 48 Gibbons 24 Morrison 41 Richardson 58 Pietrosante 74 Baker 89 Szymanski 103 St. Clair 119 Wade 126 Layne 139 Green 122 Dial 140 Howton 158 Guglielmi 176 Joyce 193 Krakoski 8 Kramer 66 Hickerson 85 Orr 104 Stickles Alpha Bits Individuals 6 Hornung 30 Webster 37 Jurgensen 70 Plum 90 Unitas 98 Kilmer 10 oz.. Top 3 7 Jordan 26 Robustelli 45 Khayat 63 Gain 82 Moore 101 Owens 27 Rote 42 Sugar 61 Brown 77 Boyd 92 Brodie 120 Youmans 105 Woodson 150 Fuller 164 Hunter 178 Mason 192 Kerr 90 Unitas 119 Wade 137 Dupre 155 Meinert 173 Varrichione 190 Hageman 11 Ringo 171 Richter 177 Lapham 194 Dugan 4 Gregg 17 Brown 31 Barnes 200 Toneff 104 Stickles 125 Johnson 138 Fry 159 Childress 179 McElhenny 8 oz.. Crispy Critters 12 Starr 31 Barnes 50 Karras 68 Morrow 87 Pellington 106 Atkins 22 Livingston 39 Peaks 56 Morrall 72 Schafrath 80 Mackey 101 Owens 115 Jones 128 Michaels 143 Moegle 152 Hill 166 Lundy 184 Tarkenton 124 Henry 142 Meredith 160 Arnett 178 Mason 195 Paluck 6 Hornung 13 oz.. Crispy Critters 11 Ringo 30 Webster 49 Glass 67 Mitchell 86 Parker 105 Woodson 123 Green 57 Ninowski 73 Smith 79 Donovan 102 Smith 116 Morris 127 Lipscomb 172 Ryan 140 Howton 151 Gautt 165 LoVetere 185 Triplett 191 Horner 3 Forester 18 Gaiters 141 Lilly 159 Childress 177 Lapham 194 Dugan 7 Jordan 23 Lynch 40 Retzlaff 10 oz.. Oat Flakes 17 Brown 36 Dean 73 Smith 92 Brodie 111 Ditka 34 Brookshire 51 Lane 67 Mitchell 82 Moore 93 Baker 129 Nisby 147 Cook 165 LoVetere 183 Shaw 200 Toneff 133 Tracy 145 Tubbs 155 Meinert 169 Pardee 174 Alderman 15 oz.. Oat Flakse 15 Whittenton 34 Brookshier 53 Lewis 71 Renfro 90 Unitas 109 Casares 127 Lispscomb 54 McCord 69 Parrish 84 Myhra 98 Kilmer 112 Fortunato 132 Tarasovic 141 Lilly 145 Tubbs 163 Dale 181 Pesonen 198 Snead 3 Forrester 20 Huff 35 Carr 153 Koman 167 Matson 176 Joyce 190 Hageman 2 Dowler 19 Grier 63 Gain 11 oz.. Grape-uts 18 Gaiters 37 Jurgensen 74 Baker 93 Baker 16 oz.. GrapeNuts 56 Morrall 19 Grier 38 McDonald 112 Fortunato 75 Wiggin 94 Davis 166 Lundy 130 Reger 148 Crow 12 oz.. Grape-Nuts Flakes 7 Jordan 26 Robustelli 45 Khayat 63 Gain 82 Moore 101 Owens 27 Rote 42 Sugar 61 Brown 77 Boyd 92 Brodie 120 Youmans 105 Woodson 150 Fuller 164 Hunter 178 Mason 192 Kerr 90 Unitas 119 Wade 137 Dupre 155 Meinert 173 Varrichione 190 Hageman 11 Ringo 171 Richter 177 Lapham 194 Dugan 4 Gregg 17 Brown 31 Barnes 200 Toneff 104 Stickles 125 Johnson 138 Fry 159 Childress 179 McElhenny 16 oz.. Grape-Nuts Flakes 6 Hornung 25 Nolan 44 Weber 62 Fiss 81 Marchetti 100 Morze 118 Petibon 70 Plum 78 Braase 94 Davis 106 Atkins 187 Bishop 135 Clarke 158 Guglielmi 117 Morris 149 Etcheverry 163 Dale 180 Middleton 193 Krakoski 124 Henry 5 Hanner 136 Connelly 154 Wilson 172 Ryan 189 Bosseler 12 Starr 28 Shofner 43 Walston 10 oz.. Raisin Bran 47 Cogdill 9 McGee 65 McCormack 28 Shofner 59 Schmidt 25 Nolan 75 Wiggin 44 Weber 121 Carpenter 84 Myhra 139 Green 103 St. Clair 192 Kerr 157 Randle 10 Moore 175 Hawkins 14 oz.. Raisin Bran 8 Kramer 27 Rote 46 Cassady 64 Houston 83 Mutscheller 26 Robustelli 45 Khayat 60 Sewell 76 Berry 91 Bosley 102 Smith 9 McGee 118 Petibon 26 Robustelli 76 Berry 120 Youmans 138 Fry 156 Henke 174 Alderman 191 Horner 9 oz.. Sugar Crisp 14 Thurston 33 Bednarik 52 Lary 70 Plum 89 Szymanski 108 Caroline 37 Jurgensen 53 Lewis 71 Renfro 85 Orr 99 Mertens 113 Galimore 126 Layne 144 Perkins 162 Bratkowski 180 Middleton 197 Rutgens 4 Gregg 14 Oz.. Sugar Crisp 13 Taylor 32 Baughan 51 Karras 69 Parrish 88 Sandusky 107 Brown 125 Johnson 55 Martin 65 McCormick 86 Parker 100 Morze 114 George 129 Nisby 142 Meredith 143 Moegle 161 Bass 179 McElhenny 196 Promuto 5 Hanner 21 Katcavage 38 McDonald 10 oz.. Rice Krinkles 16 Barnes 35 Carr 72 Schafrath 91 Bosley 97 Johnson 83 Mutscheller 111 Ditka 131 Sandusky 110 Coia 128 Michaels 146 Lockett 182 Rubke 144 Perkins 154 Wilson 175 Hawkins 188 Anderson 173 Varrichione 186 Youso 1 Currie 189 Bosseler 199 Stychula 168 Meador 36 Dean 52 Lary 8 oz.. Post Toasties 3 Forester 22 Livingston 41 Richardson 59 Schmidt 78 Braase 97 Johnson 115 Jones 133 Tracy 151 Gautt 169 Pardee 186 Youso 15 Whittenton 31 Barnes 48 Gibbons 65 McCormack 12 oz.. Post Toasties 2 Dowler 21 Katcavage 40 Retzlaff 58 Pietrosante 77 Boyd 96 Hazeltine 114 George 66 Hickerson 199 Stychula 109 Casares 121 Carpenter 134 Gregory 156 Henke 160 Arnett 130 Reger 146 Lockett 170 Phillips 183 Shaw 197 Rutgens 81 Marchetti 7 Jordan 132 Tarasovic 150 Fuller 168 Meador 185 Triplett 16 Barnes 32 Baughan 49 Glass 18 oz.. Post Toasties 1 Currie 20 Huff 39 Peaks 57 Ninowski 76 Berry 95 Harrison 113 Galimore 131 Sandusky 149 Etchevery 167 Matson 184 Tarkenton 17 Brown 33 Bednarik 49 Karras 11 oz.. Bran Flakes 5 Hanner 24 Morrison 43 Walston 61 Brown 80 Mackey 99 Mertens 29 Tittle 46 Cassady 62 Fiss 87 Pellington 96 Hazeltine 107 Brown 117 Morris 135 Clarke 153 Koman 171 Richter 188 Anderson 13 Taylor 123 Green 136 Connelly 148 Crow 162 Bratkowski 181 Pesonen 195 Paluck 16 oz.. Bran Flakes 4 Gregg 23 Lynch 42 Sugar 60 Sewell 79 Donovan 98 Kilmer 116 Morris 64 Houston 88 Sandusky 95 Harrison 108 Caroline 122 Dial 137 Dupre 157 Randle 134 Gregory 152 Hill 170 Phillips 187 Bishop 14 Thurston 30 Webster 198 Snead 147 Cook 161 Bass 182 Rubke 196 Promuto 47 Cogdill 6 Hornung 16 Barnes 10 oz.. Sugar Coated Corn Flakes 15 Whittenton 34 Brookshier 53 Lewis 71 Renfro 90 Unitas 109 Casares 127 Lispscomb 54 McCord 69 Parrish 84 Myhra 98 Kilmer 112 Fortunato 132 Tarasovic 141 Lilly 145 Tubbs 163 Dale 181 Pesonen 198 Snead 3 Forester 20 Huff 35 Carr 153 Koman 167 Matson 176 Joyce 190 Hageman 2 Dowler 19 Grier 63 Gain |
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Many thanks Ken--complete and definitive. Seems we did eat Alphabets and Crispy Critters in my house. But only common backs.....
Another quick question--I have a Pardee with extra thick cardboard as the backing. Was he ever part of a point of sale promotion or other advertising that you are aware of for this set? And if not, do you have any other thoughts other than someone rebacking the paper to a heavier piece of cardboard? thanks again--great information--that I have printed out for future reference. |
Pardee Promotional??
You know Peter, have never seen Jack Pardee as part of any promotional material. Paul Hornung is the primary person associated with in store promotions (and media ads) that I have seen. There is the big sign that Mike Blaisdell has posted as part of this thread that had three large cards (Hornung, Unitas, and Kilmer). But have never seen or heard of anything about Pardee being a part of some sort of promotional item. I wonder what you have. Standard card size??
This might be way too much minutia, but a comment on the picture of the sign Mike posted since we are talking promotional material for the 1962 Post Cereal Football set. I too have that promotional sign and until Mike posted a picture of his, was the only one I had ever seen. What was very interesting was that his sign while pretty much the same, was not exactly the same as the one I have. The football player on the bottom is going the opposite direction and the cut of the bottom is not the same. It looks to me that Post produced two different signs that could be displayed back to back (and fit perfectly) for grocery store displays. Just thought I would throw that out as surprised me. |
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Ken--It appears the Pardee card has another piece of cardboard attached/glued to the original card. Who knows why, but I can see a clear separation between the original card and the extra/additional cardboard backing.
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After chasing this set for over ten years (and needing just two cards) I completed it at this years National Convention. After walking the aisles for four days, I thought I'd seen everything. Spike (a friend of mine) suggested walking cross ways across the floor, not along the regular walkways, and this proved successful. I started seeing things I had missed all week!
I came across a dealer with a stack of 1962 Post football and of course I asked to see them, and what do you know! #117 Larry Morris priced at $25, and the dealer accepted my offer of $20. <a href="http://s176.photobucket.com/user/larrytipton/media/8484AB06-0C9D-4A9D-B963-B4ED77DC1C1D.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w185/larrytipton/8484AB06-0C9D-4A9D-B963-B4ED77DC1C1D.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 8484AB06-0C9D-4A9D-B963-B4ED77DC1C1D.jpg"/></a> So I paid the dealer and mentioned that I am down to needing just one more card, the short printed number 93 Dave Baker. And to my surprise the dealer says he has one! The problem is, I am collecting a low grade set, and the dealer pulls out the most beautiful card I have ever seen, it's a BLAZER! But with extra money in my pocket we strike a deal, and my set is complete! I am so excited, and shoot Spike a text so I can show him. After seeing the card, Spike suggests I get the card slabbed and I agree with him. I want to keep this card as nice as possible! Here's a picture of me sitting at the SGC booth with the Dave Baker card ready for submission, cost to have it graded and slabbed was $35 and the card will be ready in one hour. <a href="http://s176.photobucket.com/user/larrytipton/media/616a31d3-abb3-4646-a1a2-f8b6203dfebc.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w185/larrytipton/616a31d3-abb3-4646-a1a2-f8b6203dfebc.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 616a31d3-abb3-4646-a1a2-f8b6203dfebc.jpg"/></a> I didn't know what to expect, I knew the card was nice, but I don't normally purchase better condition cards. I was like an expectant father, pacing the Convention floor, and checking the time every five minutes. This was the longest hour I have spent in a long long time:) Finally I approach the SGC booth...... <a href="http://s176.photobucket.com/user/larrytipton/media/Scan%203_2.jpeg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w185/larrytipton/Scan%203_2.jpeg" border="0" alt=" photo Scan 3_2.jpeg"/></a> And that's the story how I finally completed my set. Of course the slabbed NM card of Dave Baker does not really fit in with the rest of my set. Hole punched, cut out with pinking shears, and stored raw in an 800 count box. I may keep my eyes open for a lower end Dave Baker card and downgrade:) But then again, this card is pretty sweet! Larry |
Congrats Larry - great story!
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A beauty Larry, and quite the capstone! Congratulations!
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Great story, Larry, and glad you were able to snag that last card. It's a toughie!
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Kudos on your completed journey.
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I picked up a small stack of '62 Post Football cards today, and discovered #57 has a variation DETROIT LIONS QUARTERBACK red or black asterisk. It's not listed in the Standard Catalog?
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