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CamaroCPA 04-29-2014 05:58 AM

I may be a naive noob, but it seems to me it should be difficult to sell a card that he claimed as trimmed in order to keep bids down and win. Can anyone explain how to get around this?

That being said, I would be curious to know if he did place a bid after bashing it!

Back to my regularly scheduled lurking.

wonkaticket 04-29-2014 05:59 AM

Rich this was on the Henry Reccius Cigar, Wagner card I think.

This may not be the exact thread....

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=79186

Cheers,

John

Peter_Spaeth 04-29-2014 06:02 AM

He admitted it here.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...hlight=tribute

Runscott 04-29-2014 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E93 (Post 1270101)
Scott,
I think there is a difference. A card still has value, even if it is trimmed. An autograph does not if it is fake.
JimB

Jim, well-put - I like the cut of your jib.

calvindog 04-29-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1270370)

Hal and the truth were never very closely associated.

Peter_Spaeth 04-29-2014 01:23 PM

Peter: Hal, I can't believe you would trash a card you were trying to buy in an effort to keep the price down, when all along you have said it wasn't about money.

Hal: Peter, you work for corporate clients.

LOL.

slidekellyslide 04-29-2014 02:14 PM

Whatever happened to Hal? Did he sell off his collection?

calvindog 04-29-2014 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1270536)
Whatever happened to Hal? Did he sell off his collection?

Yes, while he was bidding on it at the same time.

ullmandds 04-29-2014 02:21 PM

i believe a divorce caused the demise of Hal's collection.

ullmandds 04-29-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1270540)
Yes, while he was bidding on it at the same time.

that's pretty funny!

Kenny Cole 04-29-2014 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 1270540)
Yes, while he was bidding on it at the same time.

Well, at least he kept the price down. :)

thehoodedcoder 04-29-2014 02:49 PM

His initial post was on 4-20, long after the preview was open. Was he not allowed to put in a bid before the lot description was updated to say it might be trimmed?

If he was pondering a purchase, is not allowed to enter his horse into the race in case he decides or comes to the conclusion it is in fact not trimmed?

Maybe I am still missing something, but I don't think he actually said the card was trimmed or that people shouldn't bid on it. The only thing he really said was that he was confused at why people would bid up to the same price as card without a possible trim disclosure.

Even if he did, everyone here says it doesn't work anyway, so I guess, my only comment would be, "Who cares if he bid or not?" Do you think that "He" kept the price down, or the fact that it was disclosed as a possible trim, kept the price down?

If you don't like or respect him, why even worry yourself with what he is doing?

Kevin

Peter_Spaeth 04-29-2014 02:55 PM

No, the other Kevin said it WAS trimmed. Read his first post.

The Joss PSA 8 is already over $5K with the juice. The card was announced with possible trim, which simply means it does have a trim.

T206Collector 04-29-2014 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder (Post 1270564)
my only comment would be, "Who cares if he bid or not?" . . . .If you don't like or respect him, why even worry yourself with what he is doing?

+1

thehoodedcoder 04-29-2014 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1270569)
No, the other Kevin said it WAS trimmed. Read his first post.

The Joss PSA 8 is already over $5K with the juice. The card was announced with possible trim, which simply means it does have a trim.

I did read it.

That is a facetious comment, that you are taking at literal truth.

Kevin

Peter_Spaeth 04-29-2014 03:07 PM

And this one?

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I love PSA more than anyone, but this card has to be trimmed...

thehoodedcoder 04-29-2014 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1270576)
And this one?

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I love PSA more than anyone, but this card has to be trimmed...

He doesn't say that he should not bid on it, nor that anyone else should not bid on it.

The only thing he actually says is that, in a nut shell, the card shouldn't go for the same price as an 8.

Your argument and actually a lot of peoples are argument, is essentially saying, "No one should bid on it, because it is trimmed." That simply did not occur, anywhere. Anywhere you think that has happened is really you inferring something.

Kevin

Peter_Spaeth 04-29-2014 03:28 PM

I have no argument at all. You claimed he never said it was trimmed, and I merely pointed out that he did say it.

To quote you:

"Maybe I am still missing something, but I don't think he actually said the card was trimmed..."

thehoodedcoder 04-29-2014 03:32 PM

Again, saying it "has to be" trimmed, is not saying it "is" trimmed.

The two wordings mean different things based on the context of the sentence.

Kevin

RichardSimon 04-29-2014 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290 (Post 1269458)
Even if it doesn't, how can it get a grade of 8 with that centering???

Collector: Uh, Mr. Orlando , how did the Joss card get an 8.
Mr Orlando: Uh,,, well the (huge) customer is always right.

Peter_Spaeth 04-29-2014 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder (Post 1270594)
Again, saying it "has to be" trimmed, is not saying it "is" trimmed.

The two wordings mean different things based on the context of the sentence.

Kevin

Sure, Mr. Clinton, whatever you say. Good lord man just admit you made a mistake and move on.

Gradedcardman 04-29-2014 03:38 PM

Respect
 
Kevin Q,

I agree. I don't care because I have no respect for him.

Leon 04-29-2014 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1270597)
Sure, Mr. Clinton, whatever you say. Good lord man just admit you made a mistake and move on.

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is." –Bill Clinton, during his 1998 grand jury testimony on the Monica Lewinsky affair

ullmandds 04-29-2014 03:48 PM

wonder-kevin powers...ACTIVATE!

slidekellyslide 04-29-2014 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1270597)
Sure, Mr. Clinton, whatever you say. Good lord man just admit you made a mistake and move on.

When all else fails turn to pedantry.

Runscott 04-29-2014 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1270616)
When all else fails turn to pedantry.

That may be the first time I've seen that word ever used on the internet.

frankbmd 04-29-2014 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1270675)
That may be the first time I've seen that word ever used on the internet.

Scott, stop being oleaginous.

Runscott 04-29-2014 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1270678)
Scott, stop being oleaginous.

pedantry: infantry composed entirely of pedophiles

oleaginous: having the feel and consistency of oleo

Sean1125 04-29-2014 07:04 PM

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HRBAKER 04-29-2014 07:07 PM

Miss a day, miss a lot

frankbmd 04-29-2014 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1270679)
pedantry: infantry composed entirely of pedophiles

oleaginous: having the feel and consistency of oleo, but also
distastefully complimentary

I know I'm being pedantic for posting again, but I consider it a more than necessary formality;););)

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 04-30-2014 12:17 PM

I am glad I decided to read this thread.

Bugsy 04-30-2014 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1270271)
If you’re ok with contacting someone from REA and telling them to reach out to Leon confirming I was wrong and that you didn’t bid on the card. I will issue you a humble public apology and donate a $500 to a charity of your choice.

Cheers,

John

I am still waiting to hear how this turns out...but I'm not holding my breath.


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