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Cardboard Junkie 02-21-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by timzcardz (Post 1244630)
OK, I'll be the one to ask, name and all, why is this on the main page when it apparently has nothing to do with pre-war baseball cards?

ssshhhhhhhhhhhh

wonkaticket 02-21-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1244617)
This is getting to be unhealthy. I understand being upset but posting all of this material is not a good idea.

Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.

Cardboard Junkie 02-21-2014 11:24 AM

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Section103 02-21-2014 11:32 AM

Dumb question, but does the Peter Nash post on this board? Im assuming the Prime Minister does not.

Big Dave 02-21-2014 11:53 AM

Not under his own name.

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-21-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1244639)
Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.



If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.


John - I think having am entire thread devoted to a personal matter is not appropriate. It also seems border line harassment to me. Let me be clear that I am not picking sides as I don't know either person and was not around when any of this happened.


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oldjudge 02-21-2014 12:53 PM

John--Robert made his point and then some. His posts are at this point are getting really old, really quick. I don't mean to minimize what Peter has done, but enough is enough here. I agree with the prior poster, move future posts about this somewhere else and give other readers the joy of Robert's prose.

Peter_Spaeth 02-21-2014 01:05 PM

Yeah, much better to discuss for the 100th time people's favorite T206 portraits or background color.:D:D

jhs5120 02-21-2014 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by E93 (Post 1244562)
Why don't you just let the judge know he has not complied and get a bench warrant for his arrest?
JimB

+1

I have been wondering the same thing..

Cardboard Junkie 02-21-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dave (Post 1244662)
Not under his own name.

Adrian?:eek:

tschock 02-21-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1244639)
Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.

But John, that would mean everyone would have to be responsible for their own actions rather than having other people do it for them. :D

Runscott 02-21-2014 02:11 PM

I like Robert, Dan and John. All are interesting, intelligent and opinionated (proactive defense)

Robert's the only one who is really seriously affected adversely by any of this - it's just frustrating to not hear any sort of meaningful plan from him, since after all, he is posting all of this stuff on our vintage baseball card discussion forum, not on his own 'Peter Nash is an A-Hole' Forum. Being a member only of the former, and being in that venue at this exact moment, I feel justified in stating that opinion. Hope it's okay.

Fuddjcal 02-21-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1244639)
Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.

plus 1

Fuddjcal 02-21-2014 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1244678)
John - I think having am entire thread devoted to a personal matter is not appropriate. It also seems border line harassment to me. Let me be clear that I am not picking sides as I don't know either person and was not around when any of this happened.


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I think that fraud like this that has been perpetrated on this level against anyone is PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE.

Fuddjcal 02-21-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1244696)
Yeah, much better to discuss for the 100th time people's favorite T206 portraits or background color.:D:D

now that's funny....:D

wonkaticket 02-21-2014 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjudge (Post 1244688)
John--Robert made his point and then some. His posts are at this point are getting really old, really quick. I don't mean to minimize what Peter has done, but enough is enough here. I agree with the prior poster, move future posts about this somewhere else and give other readers the joy of Robert's prose.

Jay, I would agree that it's getting a little bit long in the tooth and it would be nice if Robert was to outline a plan or be a bit clearer on things. With that said I also agree with Peter and sort feel the same.

There are countless threads about the same topics over and over on here just the nature of the beast. It also doesn’t stop lots of folks starting their own threads on other stuff that is very self-serving i.e. guess my grades, look at my progress etc. at least this thread is hobby news that can affect us all vs. what grades your recent submission got.

If it gives Robert a little happiness to vent I can tolerate it or ignore the post I guess more than others.I only wish so many who chime in on Robert’s posts were as vocal against Peter Nash and his shenanigans, at the end of the day Robert is a victim and not the bad guy here.

Peter_Spaeth 02-21-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1244721)
I like Robert, Dan and John. All are interesting, intelligent and opinionated (proactive defense)

Robert's the only one who is really seriously affected adversely by any of this - it's just frustrating to not hear any sort of meaningful plan from him, since after all, he is posting all of this stuff on our vintage baseball card discussion forum, not on his own 'Peter Nash is an A-Hole' Forum. Being a member only of the former, and being in that venue at this exact moment, I feel justified in stating that opinion. Hope it's okay.

There may not be a hell of a lot he can do. It seems in terms of Nash's own assets he appears to be behind REA and perhaps other creditors. It seems Nash no longer is in possession of the specific items he has been ordered to return to Robert. So maybe Robert is hoping these posts bring out information someone may have about the whereabouts of the items.

Leon 02-21-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dave (Post 1244662)
Not under his own name.

Concerning Peter Nash............And if I find out which ID it is he will be banned in a heartbeat as he has been before. Now, if he wants to man up and come in under his own name.....he is more than welcome on the forum. But he can't be a puss and be anonymous.


As for this thread being here and on the main forum. Seems fine to me. It's a big issue and the more it gets seen the better. But that is just my opinion....

Sunny 02-21-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by E93 (Post 1244562)
Why don't you just let the judge know he has not complied and get a bench warrant for his arrest?
JimB

That has already been tried and done, to no avail, see below, warrant for Peter Nash's arrest. Also please read the 3 page letter Robert Edward Auctions attorney wrote a few days before the Judge signed the warrant for Peter Nash's arrest. You will see that Mr. Nash did not cooperate with the Court's Orders so the Judge issued a warrant for Peter Nash's arrest. Still to this day Nash has not cooperated in turning over his assets.

I need to spend my legal fees wisely. I'm going after wage garnishment and any assets the Nash's can't hide such as the website, Hauls of Shame. As for Mr. Angelo he's a licensed CPA, he can't hide, with deep pockets and if he continues to refuse to turn over information on the stolen memorabilia my wife and I will file a complaint with the Westwood police.

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I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-21-2014 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tschock (Post 1244716)
But John, that would mean everyone would have to be responsible for their own actions rather than having other people do it for them. :D

Hahaha .... oh wait you were being serious?

Peter_Spaeth 02-21-2014 03:34 PM

Robert, why is Nash the plaintiff in the suit against REA?

slipk1068 02-21-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1244767)
Robert, why is Nash the plaintiff in the suit against REA?

Looks like he is claiming ownership of the Tenney stuff?

Sunny 02-21-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1244767)
Robert, why is Nash the plaintiff in the suit against REA?

Peter Nash sued Rob Lifson for selling the 1912 first pitched ball at the grand opening of Fenway Park. Peter Nash consigned the ball to Rob Lifson as collateral, see link

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2007/882.html

I was friends with Nash at the time and I remember Nash going crazy that his 1912 ball was being sold in Lifson's 2007 spring auction. This is the same ball that Nash tried to sell me 49 percent ownership in for $250,000, the same ball Nash wanted to cut up into little 2 inch threats and told me we would net 23 million dollars. Nash started the lawsuit claiming Lifson couldn't sell it because Nash had sold one percent of the ball for $2,500. You know the rest of the story, Lifson counter sued and Nash lost admitting to fraud. Apparently Nash must have believed he could net 23 million dollars by cutting up the ball, I realize it's delusional but why else would he start such a pathetic lawsuit against Lifson.

wonkaticket 02-21-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1244678)
John - I think having am entire thread devoted to a personal matter is not appropriate. It also seems border line harassment to me. Let me be clear that I am not picking sides as I don't know either person and was not around when any of this happened.


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Alex, fair enough. I will say that I find your reasons a bit hard to follow. Just the sentence above....you have no knowledge of the people or the circumstances yet you draw the conclusion its harassment and not appropriate?

Second having a thread all to ones self for personal reasons is pretty much this entire site. How many threads are about such things as.....

I bought this so is it real?
Can somebody put me in touch with someone else?
Please look at my progress on this set thus far....
Has anyone bought from this seller? I want to buy from him....
Please guess my grades, I think I was robbed.
Does my card looked trimmed?

There are plenty of threads that are started for self serving reasons I don't see this as any different. Perhaps less innocent but at the same time more impactful to many as this is about fraud which effects us all vs. the PSA 3 someone got vs the EX they were expecting so rally to my aid thread.

Just my two cents and the great part about a single thread is I can always ignore it. Now if Robert starts posting in every thread the same stuff no matter the topic I would agree.

Cheers,

John

Peter_Spaeth 02-21-2014 05:59 PM

Then there are the threads of general interest. SGC v PSA v101.2. Fake Honus Wagner on ebay.

wonkaticket 02-21-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1244813)
Then there are the threads of general interest. SGC v PSA v101.2. Fake Honus Wagner on ebay.

What there's a fake Wagner on eBay link please? :D

Sunny 02-21-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by slipk1068 (Post 1244769)
Looks like he is claiming ownership of the Tenney stuff?

Yes Nash did, he claimed Rick Tenney gave him the Tenney collection. I talked to Rick many times and he said Nash is a liar. Rick Tenney filed a police report on Peter Nash in Cooperstown, NY. I posted the police report before but I'll post it again just in case someone hasn't seen it.

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2007/882.html

Runscott 02-21-2014 06:59 PM

Robert, thanks for clarifying your plans over the last few posts.

Does NOT having Nash thrown in jail accomplish anything for you?

the 'stache 02-21-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1244109)
How does Peter Nash keep track of all of the lawsuits he is in?

There's an app for that.

atx840 02-21-2014 07:31 PM

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I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-21-2014 08:01 PM

John - Good point.


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wonkaticket 02-21-2014 08:34 PM

Alex, all good. I agree at first glance the whole thing is a mess...mostly because it really is just that a total mess...but that's Peter Nash for you.

wonkaticket 02-21-2014 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 1244869)

Classic!

Peter_Spaeth 02-21-2014 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 1244869)

Now she's impressed.

slipk1068 02-22-2014 01:38 AM

Maybe one of our attorney members can answer this:

If you use personal property you do not own as collateral to get a loan and sign papers pledging that property and claiming ownership, isn't that a VERY SERIOUS crime? I would think that is right up there with forgery.

Scott Garner 02-22-2014 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket (Post 1244892)
Classic!

+1

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-22-2014 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by slipk1068 (Post 1244950)
Maybe one of our attorney members can answer this:



If you use personal property you do not own as collateral to get a loan and sign papers pledging that property and claiming ownership, isn't that a VERY SERIOUS crime? I would think that is right up there with forgery.


What state?


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Sunny 02-22-2014 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by slipk1068 (Post 1244950)
Maybe one of our attorney members can answer this:

If you use personal property you do not own as collateral to get a loan and sign papers pledging that property and claiming ownership, isn't that a VERY SERIOUS crime? I would think that is right up there with forgery.

News flash, please see what I just posted on the thread "John Rogers Home and Business Searched by the FBI".

Best regards,

Robert Fraser

Runscott 02-22-2014 10:47 AM

Robert, I might have missed this in your previous posts or your introduction, but are you still collecting? Based on the items you have mentioned in your posts, I would assume that you have a very cool collection. Could you post any of it, or give us any idea what your collecting interests currently are?

Sunny 02-22-2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 1245094)
Robert, I might have missed this in your previous posts or your introduction, but are you still collecting? Based on the items you have mentioned in your posts, I would assume that you have a very cool collection. Could you post any of it, or give us any idea what your collecting interests currently are?

When I first met Peter Nash in the summer of 1995 I did not collect baseball memorabilia. Ironically I met him at his “American Baseball Archives and Wax Museum” in Cooperstown, NY. A good friend of mine that I was visiting in Cooperstown introduced Peter Nash to me at the museum. This same friend was dating Peter Nash’s sister in law. Eventually I became good friends with Peter Nash and did some deals with Peter buying and selling memorabilia and made a little bit of money. Over the years I have bought a few items for myself. I do wish I invested in sport memorabilia many years ago rather than investing in the stock market. Most of my collection consist of the memorabilia my wife and I received from Peter Nash as collateral which by Court Order we have been awarded all right, title and legal interest to sell and the proceeds shall be applied to the Judgment we have against the Nash’s. I'll start posting some of the items I have for sale. Here's a few pins that were owned by Nuf Ced McGreevy and a pin owned by Jimmy Collins. If interested please contact me and make me a fair offer and it's yours.

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ALR-bishop 02-23-2014 06:44 AM

Investments
 
I hope this comes ok for you. As someone who has been collecting baseball cards since 1957 and buying stocks since 1975, and am now retired, I am personally glad I did not go short on stocks :)

Leon 02-23-2014 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sunny (Post 1245297)
When I first met Peter Nash in the summer of 1995 I did not collect baseball memorabilia. Ironically I met him at his “American Baseball Archives and Wax Museum” in Cooperstown, NY. A good friend of mine that I was visiting in Cooperstown introduced Peter Nash to me at the museum. This same friend was dating Peter Nash’s sister in law. Eventually I became good friends with Peter Nash and did some deals with Peter buying and selling memorabilia and made a little bit of money. Over the years I have bought a few items for myself. I do wish I invested in sport memorabilia many years ago rather than investing in the stock market. Most of my collection consist of the memorabilia my wife and I received from Peter Nash as collateral which by Court Order we have been awarded all right, title and legal interest to sell and the proceeds shall be applied to the Judgment we have against the Nash’s. I'll start posting some of the items I have for sale. Here's a few pins that were owned by Nuf Ced McGreevy and a pin owned by Jimmy Collins. If interested please contact me and make me a fair offer and it's yours.

http://http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps0a245055.png

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If you post anything else for sale it needs to go in the correct BST area. If you need help or have questions with that please PM or email me. thanks

Cardboard Junkie 02-23-2014 09:34 AM

I too, am happy I invested in stocks back in the early 70's. DJIA was under 800, and the big talk was wondering if it would ever hit 1,000....ha ha. I piled on to a few stock rockets, and now my six figure pension is just pocket change/fun money. Sports collectibles shouldn't be considered investments.

Sunny 02-23-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1245339)
If you post anything else for sale it needs to go in the correct BST area. If you need help or have questions with that please PM or email me. thanks

No problem, thank you.

Sunny 02-23-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunny (Post 1245297)
When I first met Peter Nash in the summer of 1995 I did not collect baseball memorabilia. Ironically I met him at his “American Baseball Archives and Wax Museum” in Cooperstown, NY. A good friend of mine that I was visiting in Cooperstown introduced Peter Nash to me at the museum. This same friend was dating Peter Nash’s sister in law. Eventually I became good friends with Peter Nash and did some deals with Peter buying and selling memorabilia and made a little bit of money. Over the years I have bought a few items for myself. I do wish I invested in sport memorabilia many years ago rather than investing in the stock market. Most of my collection consist of the memorabilia my wife and I received from Peter Nash as collateral which by Court Order we have been awarded all right, title and legal interest to sell and the proceeds shall be applied to the Judgment we have against the Nash’s. I'll start posting some of the items I have for sale. Here's a few pins that were owned by Nuf Ced McGreevy and a pin owned by Jimmy Collins. If interested please contact me and make me a fair offer and it's yours.

http://http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps0a245055.png

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps6cdf9750.png

I want to thank Josh Evans owner of Leland’s Auctions for helping me get some provenance on some of the memorabilia I acquired as collateral from Peter Nash. Below is some of the documents Katherine Dooley’s attorney sent me proving undeniable evidence that Peter Nash did obtain items once owned by Nuf Ced McGreevy and John Dooley.

Let me explain, last year Josh Evans called me yelling and cursing at me, calling me a liar that Peter Nash never acquired any memorabilia from Katherine Dooley nor did I ever meet Katherine Dooley. Mr. Evan pissed me off so much that it caused me to search for Katherine Dooley’s attorney.

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Leon 02-25-2014 11:21 AM

Sunny- I hope you get restitution. After reading everything you have posted it would seem Mr.Nash leads a very busy life. It can't be easy always wondering who is knocking at your door or what subpoena or court order might be served next? I can't imagine keeping up with all of those judgments, warrants, etc..etc... That in itself would be a job.

Sunny 02-26-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1246224)
Sunny- I hope you get restitution. After reading everything you have posted it would seem Mr.Nash leads a very busy life. It can't be easy always wondering who is knocking at your door or what subpoena or court order might be served next? I can't imagine keeping up with all of those judgments, warrants, etc..etc... That in itself would be a job.

Thank you, Leon. It will certainly be an uphill battle to get full restitution from the Nash's. It's a shame that Peter Nash made it difficult for Lifson to go after his assets, causing Lifson to rack up a $250,000 legal bill. Nash has ask for an adjournment to hire an attorney to oppose the legal fees. The problem Nash will have is that the Judge signed Order in favor of Lifson that out of state depositions shall be recoverable on further application as a cost incurred in aid of litigant's rights for collection. It's too bad Nash didn't cooperate and give the money he received from John Rogers to Lifson or at least a good portion of it. By now Lifson would be paid off and I could be collecting. It make no sense to me why Nash keeps digging a deeper hole for himself. Is there anybody out there that's a psychiatrist that can explain this behavior?

Leon 02-26-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunny (Post 1246712)
Thank you, Leon. It will certainly be an uphill battle to get full restitution from the Nash's. It's a shame that Peter Nash made it difficult for Lifson to go after his assets, causing Lifson to rack up a $250,000 legal bill. Nash has ask for an adjournment to hire an attorney to oppose the legal fees. The problem Nash will have is that the Judge signed Order in favor of Lifson that out of state depositions shall be recoverable on further application as a cost incurred in aid of litigant's rights for collection. It's too bad Nash didn't cooperate and give the money he received from John Rogers to Lifson or at least a good portion of it. By now Lifson would be paid off and I could be collecting. It make no sense to me why Nash keeps digging a deeper hole for himself. Is there anybody out there that's a psychiatrist that can explain this behavior?

Hi Robert
I should mention something too. If the things you have CAME FROM PETER NASH, then I either don't want them sold on this board or I want impeccable provenance before they are listed. That provenance will HAVE to be more than it came from the alleged biggest fraudster in the hobby, Peter Nash. I don't want anyone on our board getting burnt the way at least one other very good friend has been. Nothing personal, I just think almost anything Peter Nash dealt with is tainted. Not everything, but enough that I don't want his stuff sold on this board. For this issue ONLY I am going to be the one saying if it can be sold or not. I got some additional information today from a confidential source warning me again of these items. Nothing personal and I do hope you get complete resolution and restitution. That being said, if you were partners or running buddies with Nash, some folks might think that your hands aren't perfectly clean in all of this.

autograf 02-26-2014 01:31 PM

Cool pins...........I have a Pee Wee Reese pin that is exactly like the 1939 Centennial Jimmy Collins Pin you have.

the 'stache 02-27-2014 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by atx840 (Post 1244869)

Now that's funny! Well played, Chris.


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