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bcornell 02-13-2013 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MW1 (Post 1088129)
yet the alleged #1 perpetrator--perhaps the king of fraudulent memorabilia--Barry Halper--gets a pass.
If it wasn't nailed down, it wound up in Halper's collection. The man had no scruples or integrity. The hobby still suffers for it.

Bill

Exhibitman 02-14-2013 07:05 AM
As far as Halper goes, let's not forget that he's dead. He doesn't interview well and the Feds would have a heck of a time digging him up for hearings. Just doesn't make for compelling tv. Now, if he had a fake Wagner he could take onto a reality show...

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-14-2013 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ctownboy (Post 1088125)
Also, I can't wait until March 5 to watch the show that this card is going to be featured on. If (more like when) the card is deemed to be a fake, I want to see what O'Keefe writes. I also can't wait to see how long it takes Cobb/Edwards to file a lawsuit against the show or come out and say race, again, had something to do with the card being fake.

David Smith
I would guess that it was determined to be fake. Otherwise Cobb or Edwards would've probably said something by now.

MW1 02-14-2013 08:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ctownboy (Post 1088125)
Also, I can't wait until March 5 to watch the show that this card is going to be featured on. If (more like when) the card is deemed to be a fake, I want to see what O'Keefe writes.

David Smith
Maybe O'Keeffe will be decent enough to send some flowers. It's the least he could do after all of the source material Cobb and Edwards have provided him...not to mention his several television appearances as an "expert" commentator on the Cobb/Edwards saga. In the meantime, I think I've got a possible lead for O'Keeffe's next, big expose:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/m...f40e43548.html

teetwoohsix 02-14-2013 08:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1088110)
I was told today that my statement I made in this thread seems to be racist. I am far from a racist in my opinion and was merely describing how I felt those 2 individuals believe they have been ridiculed because of their race. It's sort of like saying someone is racist and being called a racist for stating the opinion of someone else being racist. At any rate, I don't take any of this personally. I am not the one trying to persuade the world my card is real when it's obviously not. And as far as anyone disagreeing with me about O'keefe, that is fine too. Just make sure your name is public and say what you want to. (per the open rules of course)
I didn't read what you said as being racist Leon.

The "race card" is getting old...........

Sincerely, Clayton

ctownboy 02-14-2013 08:41 AM
I only smoke 4 the cards,

That or the producers of the show made them sign a confidentiality agreement so that they couldn't say anything until after the show was broadcast. OR, maybe the producers haven't told them at all. Maybe the producers are going to show the tape of what testing was done and THEN go live and reveal the results to Cobb and Edwards.

David

Leon 02-14-2013 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by teetwoohsix (Post 1088438)
I didn't read what you said as being racist Leon.

The "race card" is getting old...........

Sincerely, Clayton
Actually, it is O'keefe who told me I was being racist. But I don't care if the guys are green (in the Marine Corps there is no color except green, everyone is either light green or dark green), blue, white, yellow or whatever. The card is still fake (at least the front of Wags is anyway) as Dolly Parton's boobies, regardless of it's owner.

And PS.....Mike W, Mike O. sends his regards. ;)

teetwoohsix 02-14-2013 08:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1088443)
Actually, it is O'keefe who told me I was being racist. But I don't care if the guys are green (in the Marine Corps there is no color except green, everyone is either light green or dark green), blue, white, yellow or whatever. The card is still fake (at least the front of Wags is anyway) as Dolly Parton's boobies, regardless of it's owner.

And PS.....Mike W, Mike O. sends his regards. ;)
+1 :D

Sincerely, Clayton

Al C.risafulli 02-14-2013 08:50 AM
Wait. Dolly Parton's boobies are fake?

-Al

Exhibitman 02-14-2013 10:11 AM
Who's "Dolly Parton"?

Runscott 02-14-2013 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1088443)
The card is still fake (at least the front of Wags is anyway) as Dolly Parton's boobies, regardless of it's owner.

And PS.....Mike W, Mike O. sends his regards. ;)
The Wagner isn't as old as Parton's boobies, and more parts of hers are real.

slidekellyslide 02-14-2013 10:57 AM
Can someone find that old thread and post a link...I do recall it, but can't seem to find it in the archives.

bn2cardz 02-14-2013 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1088492)
Can someone find that old thread and post a link...I do recall it, but can't seem to find it in the archives.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81887&

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81898&

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=81976&

Leon 02-14-2013 02:05 PM
Concerning my comment in this thread pertaining to O'Keefe saying I was a racist. I interpreted what he said that way but that is not what he meant or said. We were talking about a racist word and that is what I thought he meant. It wasn't.

Exhibitman 02-14-2013 04:10 PM
Turns out that O'Keefe has written some stories about the problems with the Halper stuff. Here are some links:

From 2003:

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ticle-1.514248

From 2005:

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ticle-1.591645

MW1 02-14-2013 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exhibitman (Post 1088650)
Turns out that O'Keefe has written some stories about the problems with the Halper stuff. Here are some links:

From 2003:

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ticle-1.514248

From 2005:

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ticle-1.591645
OK. I have to give him credit. He did write two articles but I would note that the Mantle glove was authentic, just dated from the wrong year.

My main contention, which I think is still valid, is where is O'Keeffe's outrage over the millions of dollars of fake memorabilia that has emerged from Halper's collection AFTER 2005? The Card was published after that date and yet in its pages, O'Keeffe still gives a glowing review of Halper. Why the selective memory loss?

Runscott 02-14-2013 05:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MW1 (Post 1088682)
OK. I have to give him credit. He did write two articles but I would note that the Mantle glove was authentic, just dated from the wrong year.

My main contention, which I think is still valid, is where is O'Keeffe's outrage over the millions of dollars of fake memorabilia that has emerged from Halper's collection AFTER 2005? The Card was published after that date and yet in its pages, O'Keeffe still gives a glowing review of Halper. Why the selective memory loss?
Mike, friends of Halper's would argue that he was not intentionally dishonest, but was a bit gullible. I wouldn't fault O'Keefe for not wanting to smear Halper's name, but it does seem that O'Keefe was as gullible as Halper when it came to items in Halper's collection (as were many people), and later, when it came to this obvious Wagner reprint.

O'Keefe practices 'selective outrage' - it sells better.

Blitzu 02-15-2013 07:25 AM
I've been before Judge Guzman several times and he's very intelligent and quick to catch the overall concept of a case. Btw, I've never sat on the D side of things.

As far as the AUSA's office in Chicago goes... Well this doesn't surprise anyone from this area.


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