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I had jury duty once a few years ago. I asked if I could be excused, because I didn't have anyone to care for my disabled wife. I was telling the truth. The judge said "won't any of your neighbors help her ?" I just looked at him and said no sir. I guess he thought Boston was Mayberry RFD.
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I have been on JD 2x
The firs time I was called to a place about an hour away from where I lived, the only drawback being in the county I was in as my taxes and insurance was actually much cheaper.
Drove up Monday. was told to come back Tues Morning -- got there Tues Morning -- to hear these wonderful words, all cases have pled -- go home and enjoy your day off. I went to work both days (I was still at Beckett and really did enjoy my job) About 18 months ago I had my 2nd Jury Summone. Drove about 1/2 hour north, was in the pool to be selected, never was asked or answered a question and was picked for the jury. We finished that day and then went to about 2 PM the next day. Called my manager, no problem with JD --- and got paid. And for those who may not realize it, the federal government looks very very unkindly on anyone who will not pay you while you are on JD. If your boss tells you no, file a complaint and see how fast the company has to pay a large fine. My case was a drunken driving case, and yes we voted the guy guilty immediately BUT I don't think he was really drunk when he was pulled over, I think he was tired, a tad tipsy, and probably dehydrated from what he had done earlier that day. And iin retrospect, I'd rather have voted for a driving while impaired which was his real condition |
I've been on only one jury: a first-degree murder trial of an 18-year-old Latino accused in the stabbing death of his father. A guilty verdict meant an automatic death sentence. The case appeared to be open-and-shut: The defendant had a weak alibi; a knife he claimed to have lost was found at the murder scene; and several witnesses either heard screaming, saw the killing or the teen fleeing the scene.
Eleven of us immediately voted guilty. Only one juror voted not guilty. We all thought we'd be out of there quickly. I think that at first the guy voted not guilty more for the sake of discussion. Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, you know. As deliberations unfolded, it became apparent there was quite a range of personalities in the room. A few fights nearly broke out. In the end, the guy ended up convincing all of us that a not-guilty verdict was appropriate. It was like something out of a movie. |
How was he able to convince you of "Not guilty" after witnesses saw him running from the scene?
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Rob, I'm guessing you were Jack Klugman.
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I sat on a jury in an alleged child sexual abuse case in GA brought by an ex-wife against her former husband on behalf of a special needs child. Jury found him NG as the defense was able to conclusively show that the ex-wife had engaged in a long series of behaviors trying to ruin her ex after their divorce. That and the prosecution had a paucity on any real evidence that it ever took place.
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A cousin of mine was called for jury duty (NJ). He didn't want to go but couldn't come up with a valid excuse. He was one of 35 people called for a criminal trial. When the opposing lawyers were question these people to decide which 12 they wanted on the jury and got to my cousin, one asked "can you decide the guilt or innocince of the accused based solely on the evidence?" he said "he wouldn't have been arrested if he didn't commit the crime. We wouldn't be having this trial if he is innocent. He must be GUILTY." The judge and lawyers looked at each other and said "sir, you're excused."
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Usually I don't mind jury duty as I get paid for going but this happened a few years ago when I got called for jury duty. They called me and what seemed like 100 other people up to the courtroom and made us fill out about a 15 page questionnaire with questions like " Do you watch the Sopranos?", Did you watch The Godfather movies?' "Do you believe anything that goes on in those movies?"
The last question was "Do you recognize any of the names on the last two pages?" I wrote "yes" to one of the names and they never called me back. PHEW !!! The trial was for one of the "Big Bosses" |
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Sounds like it might have been one of Jeff L's Trials!!;););)
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In New York State:
There are no automatic exemptions or excuses from jury service in New York State. Everyone who is eligible must serve. You are eligible to serve as a juror in New York State if you are:In addition, You can postpone your service once by calling 800-449-2819 at least one week before your date of service. Have your juror index number (from your summons) with you when you call. Pick a date between 2 and 6 months from the date on your summons and you will be assigned the available date closest to your choice. Any future postponement request or request for excusal from jury service must be made by calling your local commissioner of jurors office.Also: Must employers allow employees to serve? Sources: NYS Unified Court System website NYS Unified Court System booklet, "Jury Information for Employers and Employees" |
There is one good reason to be a lawyer in Canada: you get automatically excused from jury duty
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I wish those that were self employed could get excused- you used to be able to but no longer. If I get picked I have to not only give up work, but release my crew (6-9 people) and the client will give the project to someone else, possibly not coming back (think Wally Pipp).
I've got duty at a criminal court, and with 2 cops in the family and hearing what they used to do I have no doubt a DA would want me off in a heartbeat. Adam, if you can get me out of it I'll pay for the next ppv and bring a steak for FiFi. |
I got called for jury duty one time and called the court administrator and explained that my business needed me the specific week I was on call. He told me they would excuse me with no issues but the next time I was called there would be absolutly no way I could get out of it. I figured I would take my chances and agreed.
About two months later I was called again (shocker) and it was the same week of my family vacation. I again called but because I had agreed previously there was no way of getting out of it. My wife and I had to scramble nd rearange all of our plans. (fortunatly we were taking my family camping so there wasn't any real money lost). The day before I was supposed to report I called and got the automated message "All those called for jury duty this week do not need to report. All cases scheduled have been settled and there is nothing left on the courts docet. Thank you for your willingnes to serve." Now we laugh, back then... not so funny. Drew |
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In Indiana I think the names for the jury pool come from the registered voter list.
Is that true in other states? If so, since a large percentage of people never register to vote, how representative of a jury do you get? |
I was on one jury, a Medical Malpractice case involving death, multiple defendants, multiple complaints. Nearly FIVE DAYS of testimony. I found it odd that one attorney stopped asking questions the 2nd day, and two others virtually stopped the 4th day after being very active early on.
When it came time to charge the Jury, 18 out of 20 complaints had been settled. That left us with a complaint each against the hospital and the Dr. It was a no-brainer decision, and all we really had to do was assign percentage of blame. So (12+2 jurors)*(5*8 hrs)= 560 man-hrs to divy up a settlement amount that had already been reached. (We found this out when we recommended $1 in damages. The Judge said he was in agreement but the number had already been reached.) We all took our duty seriously and it really turned out to be a huge waste of our time. Sorta like your wife asking you which couch you like AFTER she purchased one. |
rob d...that sounds awesome!!!!!! i would love to have actually participated in a cool case on the jury...that would be interesting!!!!
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jury duty!
Hi,
I get a letter from my Dr. excusing me from jury duty due to my illness. However, before I got sick, I was called a few times. Once, while waiting to see if I was called, a guy next to me struck up a conversation about bailing out of the court house. He planned on saying he could not be a good juror because he was racist, predjudiced against everyone. I told him that was not a good idea and ride the morning out as chances of getting called were slim because of the days docket list. Well, the guy opened up screaming obscenities at a court officer and was hauled away by a crew of court officers. While I and the rest of the potential jurors watched a million year old film about jury duty, this guy was charged with causing a scene in the courthouse. We all left in about 2 hours while this guy was awaiting his own appearance before a judge! So, I'd stick it out if I were you, my friend! Oh, lol, lmk if you get to see that vintage film "Jury Duty and You",lol! Have a pleasant day, Bill Hedin PS: Interesting and bizarre things seem to happen around me for some unknown reason! I would say I talk too much! |
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David- that is the way it goes in my state also. The jury panel is called based on the voter registration rolls. Thus anyone previously convicted of a felony (who never bothered to have his conviction later sealed) is automatically ineligible for jury duty. The move is on to shift from voter registration rolls to driver's license rolls but that opens up a can of worms because you can get a driver's license if convicted of a felony but you can not vote if you were convicted of any kind of felony, even if the sentence were suspended on good behavior. |
My wife was involved in an all weekend event a while ago to register voters for the upcoming elections and was shocked at how many people, especially young people, wanted to register to vote but had felonies on their record.
I will tell you that they were successful in registering many minority individuals to vote for the first time this fall. I don't think she advised them that they were now eligible for jury duty though :) |
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Wife: Our daughter wants a pet snake, what do you think? Me: I think she should wait until she settles in to her college routine in September, and then see if she wants to handle ANOTHER Pet. next day Wife: I told our daughter she could buy a pet snake today Me: Wonderful, I'll be sure to walk it every morning. :D |
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After reading David James thoughts I was thinking the same thing as you Rob. Then the more I thought about it I realized I wouldn't want David on my jury either. The reason I say that is because I would rather have people there that care to be there and are willing to be "Juror 8" (Twelve Angry Men). I want someone who is willing to take the time to discuss the facts of the case. |
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Perhaps in Texas, but not Arkansas. Felons can also own handguns in Texas, but they are absolutely prohibited for owning or even possessing them in Arkansas. Not even an expungement will work in Arkansas but there has been some recent legislation designed to allow felons to possess handguns for hunting (thanks NRA, just we need felons touting semi-automatic rifles while hunting rabbits :mad:) |
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On Mar. 9, 2011 the Florida rules of Executive Clemency were toughened. Automatic restoration of civil rights and the ability to vote will no longer be granted for any offenses. All individuals convicted of any felony will now have to apply for executive clemency after a five year waiting period. Individuals who are convicted, or who have previously been convicted, of certain felonies such as murder, assault, child abuse, drug trafficking, arson, etc. are subject to a seven year waiting period and a clemency board hearing to determine whether or not the ability to vote will be restored. Prior to the Mar. 9, 2011 rule change some individuals convicted of non-violent felonies were re-enfranchised automatically by the Clemency Board upon completion of their full sentence, including payment of fines and fees. |
DDS....
A range of possibilities are out there for you if you bail on jury duty. From nothing happening, to jail. Now that you've posted here about it, "I forgot" will be pretty weak... I saw a federal judge send marshals to get a lady, and after a short discussion, she went to jail for 30 days, he let her out after about 2 weeks. He was the first federal judge I ever saw on the bench. It was sobering. At times I let jurors slide with it if their absence caused no problems. A few times I kept a juror around to attend the trial, even though they weren't on the panel. I recall doing that once when it was painfully obvious to everyone that the juror answered initial questions in a way to get stricken... I allowed the attorneys motion to strike, but explained to the panel member what I was doing and let them sit through the trial. That panel came back twice more to hear trials, that panel member gave forthright answers to the questions upon returning. I never jailed a panel member for not showing, but did send the sheriff out to find a few jurors over the years. As a panel member, it is not your place to decide you'd not be a fair juror and you shouldn't sit for trial; it's ok to have an opinion about that, but it isn't your decision. The parties, lawyers, and judge decide that. I gotta figure when a patient sits in that dental chair it is the DDS who decides things, after entertaining the patient's opinions. A patient who wants a good tooth pulled probably won't talk a good dentist into doing that... Personally, I think you should serve, or you should have gotten off of the panel at the beginning. Unanimous verdict doesn't mean an 11-1 majority jams a decision down on someone... A jury isn't a committee. |
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frank...thanks for your well thought out response!!!
believe me...I would have loved to be a part of a jury...the comeraderie of it would be refreshing and exciting to me! I would probably end up being the juror who kept the rest of the jury in deliberations for days!!!!! but...just sitting around...doing nothing was a waste of time...and sucked!!!!! |
In the Brooklyn courts if you don't have your name called the first day you are relieved and sent home. If you get chosen for a jury panel but they reject you, you are finished and are sent home. They used to make you sit for two weeks but it's been streamlined considerably.
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