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mdschulze 08-18-2011 08:06 PM

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with your description.... I'm curious to see what it sells for!

Shoeless Moe 12-27-2011 02:24 PM

Brock - what did this sell for on Ebay?.....
 
back in Sept?

It's now being re-sold at Premier Auctions

http://www.premierauctionsonline.com...igned-Baseball

Let's see what they get.

GrayGhost 12-27-2011 02:33 PM

I see the "Jackson" but its such a rare sig and so few out there, I can't see why people would risk it. Plus, this one is beat to a bloody pulp

bn2cardz 12-27-2011 03:37 PM

Maybe it is just me but that looks like it could possibly be Jimmy Cooney. He made his debut in Sept 1917 with the Red Sox. I couldn't find any old Cooney signatures to compare to, but I am sure his auto in 1917 would not look the same as the 1980s samples I have been able to find.

I could be way off, I also am not an expert about autos. This is purely an assumption on the fact that it does look like there is a J..MY C...

yanks12025 12-27-2011 04:36 PM

It sold for alittle over $500. And i also noticed the auction the other day.

ruth-gehrig 12-27-2011 06:19 PM

Sold?:confused: Isn't the auction on going?

yanks12025 12-27-2011 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig (Post 950563)
Sold?:confused: Isn't the auction on going?

He asked what i sold it for back in September on ebay. And i replied back saying alittle over $500.

Shoeless Moe 12-27-2011 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig (Post 950563)
Sold?:confused: Isn't the auction on going?

Brock bought it on Ebay for I believe $90, re-sold it as a potential Joe Jackson signed ball for $500, now that winner has it up in the Premier Auction with a min bid of $500.

I can't see it going for much more then that, but ya never know.

And the way they have worded it as a ball signed by Joe Jackson seems a lil deceiving.

I think Brock did a nice job when he listed it, explaining exactly what it was and what the authenticators determined, but Premier is being a little dishonest.

ruth-gehrig 12-27-2011 06:33 PM

Ok got ya;)

Shoeless Moe 12-27-2011 06:54 PM

Cooney in same auction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz (Post 950517)
Maybe it is just me but that looks like it could possibly be Jimmy Cooney. He made his debut in Sept 1917 with the Red Sox. I couldn't find any old Cooney signatures to compare to, but I am sure his auto in 1917 would not look the same as the 1980s samples I have been able to find.

I could be way off, I also am not an expert about autos. This is purely an assumption on the fact that it does look like there is a J..MY C...


http://www.premierauctionsonline.com...per-Photograph

howard38 12-27-2011 07:12 PM

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bn2cardz 12-27-2011 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 950577)

Yeah I saw that, but compared to other later autos it looks similar. I am wondering if an auto from a 22/23 year old in his first years in the majors would look different from one obtained later in his life.

yanks12025 12-27-2011 07:22 PM

Howard,
It sold on ebay.

HexsHeroes 12-28-2011 08:07 PM

Is this the same ball
 
.

. . . in the current Premier 1/07/2012 Auction ?

http://www.premierauctionsonline.com...igned-Baseball

bn2cardz 12-28-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HexsHeroes (Post 950886)
.

. . . in the current Premier 1/07/2012 Auction ?

http://www.premierauctionsonline.com...igned-Baseball

Yes and it was already called out as so in an earlier post.

Shoeless Moe 12-28-2011 09:03 PM

3 people on here
 
have asked questions that were answered in the previous post or two.

It's getting funny.

yanks12025 12-28-2011 09:10 PM

Let's see how many more people will ask if it's the same ball. lol

doug.goodman 12-28-2011 09:33 PM

I'm sorry, but that Premier description is flat out dishonest.

JSA's opinion is that they can't tell who, if anybody, signed the ball. Their opinion is that it might be a transcript of the Declaration of Independence written by Walter Johnson, but they don't know.

Congrats to Brock for finding a buyer, while being honest about the ball.

Shame on Premier, although I'm sure PT Barnum would be proud.

Doug

Shoeless Moe 01-06-2012 01:14 PM

as of today
 
ends tomorrow night

up to $733 + buyers premium.

http://premierauctionsonline.com/Lot...igned-Baseball

HRBAKER 01-06-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 953469)
ends tomorrow night

up to $733 + buyers premium.

http://premierauctionsonline.com/Lot...igned-Baseball

The winner most likely will put it with their piece of toast with the Virgin Mary on it.

Bilko G 01-07-2012 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 950909)
I'm sorry, but that Premier description is flat out dishonest.

JSA's opinion is that they can't tell who, if anybody, signed the ball. Their opinion is that it might be a transcript of the Declaration of Independence written by Walter Johnson, but they don't know.

Congrats to Brock for finding a buyer, while being honest about the ball.

Shame on Premier, although I'm sure PT Barnum would be proud.

Doug


Totally agree with this post, very shady IMO.

HexsHeroes 01-07-2012 06:43 AM

Maybe it's gotten to be like instant replay . . .
 
.

. . . where in the absence of conclusive evidence (PSA-DNA, JSA opinion), the original (consignor's opinion) call stands on the field (auction company venue).ed

I've certainly have the college football bowl season this past month.

Shoeless Moe 01-07-2012 09:28 PM

Sold!
 
$1562 Wow!

Bilko G 01-07-2012 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe (Post 954055)
$1562 Wow!


GOOD GOD:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

travrosty 01-07-2012 09:57 PM

Why is a no opinion something to point to in the auction as something positive? Millions of us have no opinon on the ball. But spence's no opinion carries weight?

My prediction - you will see this ball get an LOA in the near future.


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