joe
 

nice polar bear back!
mine is still unopened--and the only reason it is, is because i had it framed it immediately.
and my wife will never allow tearing up these fancy frames!!!
all the best,
barry

Wax Paper
 

That waxy paper on the Polar Bear pack reminds me of other cigarette and tobacco packs from the 1920s. It seems to me the wax paper wrapping came into vogue between 1917-1920, but was not seen on T206 era packs of any brand. Can anyone confirm? If true, this is a good tip towards dating packs, in the absence of a specific date overstamped.

Ron - unfortunately that is not entirely the case. Wax paper was used dating pack to the 1880s. For example, the unopened Old Mill box I pictured above dates to 1898, and has a complete wax paper wrapping.

To keep the thread going!...

http://baseballandtobacco.com/images/oldjudge.gif

Coupon ...
 

Coupon :

T card era cigarette packs
 

Tired of paying money for a GAI label that says nothing. I've decided to break out all my boxes out of their GAI holders and have them shrinkwrapped instead. I'll put labels on them when done.

did this contain anything??????

Andrew - unfortunately no, but nice companion piece. The N300s came in single-tired Mayo lunchboxes.

Mayo's
 

Hey Jon,

Is there any evidence that N300s were issued as a lunchbox insert? There was also a tobacco pack at that time that seems a possibility for an insert.

Ron,

No definitive proof on either front, but here is what I've been told and/or know. There is evidence that the position cards came in the Mayo pouches (in the form of a story of a pouch being opened in the ate 90's and a position card being pulled out). As for the Mayo tins, there is an article appearing in paper around the 1900s discussing how 5 baseball subjects were packaged in lunchbox tins. While I do not believe that Mayo was named in the article, it is the only brand that ever produced lunchbox tobacco tins and baseball cards. Of note, however, is I do not believe the article mentioned boxing cards or other Mayo issues.

- Jon

Long Time Lurker jumps on board............
 

..............primarily to keep this thread going, as the packs are my current passion. Let's keep it going.


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Yes, I've thought about opening it up, but............
 

...................that would spoil all the fun.

Great stuff Cerberus!

Package of Plow Boy

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...cture001-1.jpg

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Thank you for the kind words, Eric..................
 

.........................here's another:

cerberus
 

great stuff!!!
thanks for sharing.
and welcome aboard!!!

all the best,
barry

Thanks, Barry. I'm waiting for you to post a picture of the framed display in your office, to help keep the thread going. I'll try to post every day or two, "while supplies last." All the best,

Michael

Cerberus,

I'll bump the thread for you. Not a rare cig box, but the stamps are a little tougher.

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/r...mShellBoxA.jpg http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/r...bbEnvelope.jpg

Mike

tobacco coupons
 

coupons.....(they can be seen better on my site....)

Cool thread. Here's my Piedmont box.

cerberus/michael
 

sorry about my computer illiteracy but ole barry sloate and i are two dinosaurs who have been on the board forever who can't scan.
almost all of my pieces were bought from my great friend, Jon Canfield, who has taught me everything i know about the packs,pouches,etc.
Please accept my applause in lieu of my scans.
all the best,
barry

Great material, all.................
 

I love the Helmar stamp Cobb, Mike and, particularly, the glassine envelope. I'll post my Helmar display somewhere down the line. Jon's scarce Lenox box is amazing, as is Leon's extensive collection of redemption coupons. Barry, I have pm'd you, re your self-proclaimed status as a non-tech savvy dinosaur.

Now, for today's offering--I can actually feel what must now be the "petrified" (speaking about dinosaurs) gum, rattling around inside the tin. It's "frozen" shut, and I'm not about to take a pair of vice-grips to it, even if the situation calls for a "delicious digestive":

so now we are doing coupons
 

Here is a Ramly coupon for which you get a Ramly premium for ONLY 40 box fronts or 10 and 16 cents and get a large paper premium. Also shown is the only known paper premium.

Let's keep it going...............
 

That Ramly premium is a beautiful piece, sb1. Jim's uncut sheet of Piedmont boxes, is unique, as well.

I had considered picking up one of those B-18 blankets on ebay a few months ago, with the blue "umbilical cord" still attached, but opted for the Cobb for display purposes, instead:

Actually... I have two of them. :)

Very cool sheet. Have never seen anything like that. :eek:

Couple more....

http://baseballandtobacco.com/images/tolstoi.gif
http://baseballandtobacco.com/images/cycle.gif

This pack does not belong to me, but one of my favorite!

http://baseballandtobacco.com/images/uzit.gif

jon c
 

i love the Uzit,ole buddy.
when ya gonna find 2 of them?!! :)
all the best,
barry

T card era cigarette packs
 

Freedom from GAI slabs. Shrink wrapped for protection.

Nice packs! Just curious, how did you get them shrink-wrapped?

T card era cigarette packs
 

I shrink wrapped them at Office Depot. Staples might. .75 cents each. Perfect, because the tobacco won't leak out anymore. (Especially the Honest Long Cut)

Today's Offering:

While technically not "T card era"..........................
 

..........I really love the way Junior Gilliam's picture "pops" on this card. And yes, the cellophane wrap is original:

The only problem with having acquired this unopened pack, is that now I must locate and spring for an S-81 Silk, or an L-1 Leather, to display with it! Rough life.

That's just damn awesome!!!

Thank you, Matt
 

Believe it or not, when I acquired the Gilliam, I just missed out on a Mantle (sealed NM), in a private sale. Been kicking myself for 3 years.

I picked this up from a board member a while back. While it certainly isn't the prettiest Turkish Trophies I have in my collection, it's neat in that it retains the original "Base Ball Prints" notice.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...Packs/band.jpg

Here's the "Ad" to go with it... (note: I do not own this Ad)

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ertisement.jpg

Carton label from a case of 20 packs of Tolstoi

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ks/tolstoi.jpg

Smoking can be hazardous to your health............

Sir, would you prefer the hard, or the soft pack?

T card era cigarette packs
 

Can anyone tell me the approximate dimensions of T206 era Polar Bear pack/pouch? I've never seen one in person. In scans they look pretty big - maybe three or four times bigger than a 10-count cigarette pack. The tax stamps on a Polar Bear pack/pouch seem to be bigger as well. Are they comparable to the size of an T205 era Honest Long Cut pack/pouch?

Thanks.

Steve

steve
 

mine are framed but i can help you a wee bit with measurements.
the pouch is full of tobacco and unopened and is 3 and six sixteenths by
4 and fourteen sixteenths.
the sweet cap is 1 and nine sixteenths by 2 and fourteen sixteenths.
yes, the pouch is quite a bit larger; you can see the ratio.
others may fill in the gaps.
all the best,
barry

As you surmised, Steve, and as Barry confirmed, the Polar Bear pack is indeed noticeably larger than the Honest Long Cut. The tax stamp/band is also larger, and longer, as you suggested.

I measured the packs roughly and found the Polar Bear to approximate 4 7/8" x 3 1/4" x 1 1/4". The HLC pictured below, approximates 4 1/4" x 2 5/8" x 1 1/8". Take a look below:

T card era cigarette packs
 

Barry and Cerberus - thanks for the Polar Bear pack/pouch size details. That's very helpful.

Now if I could just get my hands on one!

Steve

Here's another rare one - similar in size to the Polar Bear pouch...

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/IMG_1148.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/IMG_1150.jpg

Miners Extra
 

Hey Jon
That is a great Miner's Extra pack. Do you know if a card might have come in it?